• The FACTS

    From DirtBag@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 24 11:21:13 2022
    In 1959, Colt Manufacturing Company bought the design, which was created for use by the American military. In 1963, the company began selling a civilian version with improvements for that market. After Colt’s patents expired in 1977, other
    manufacturers began to produce and sell their own semi-automatic AR-15 style rifles. Colt retained the trademark but subsequently took the rifle off the market in 2019. They brought it back a year later due to great consumer demand and, of course,
    competition.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation has estimated that approximately 5 million to 10 million AR-15-style rifles exist in the U.S, though some estimates are even higher. The AR-15 and its knock-offs are now manufactured by dozens of companies in a
    wide range of configurations and calibers. Colt and its competitors now refer to it as “a modern sporting rifle.”

    Sporting rifle? Like for deer hunting? Duck hunting? Shooting clay pigeons?

    The AR-15 is in no way meant for hunting or “sport.” It’s meant to kill people. Lots of people all at once.

    Gun advocates will point to the Second Amendment rights. The amendment reads: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

    Makes sense: the colonists’ militia played a big role in the overthrow of British rule in America, and the Founding Fathers wanted to make damn sure it stayed that way.

    That was reasonable in 1789. Most militia organizations today envisage themselves as legally legitimate organizations, despite the fact that all 50 states prohibit private paramilitary activity. There is no government-regulated militia.

    Also, in 1789, the founding fathers had something much different in mind when they drafted that amendment. The typical firearms of the day were flintlock muskets and pistols. They could hold a single round at a time, and a skilled shooter could get off
    three or possibly four rounds in a minute of firing.

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  • From uncle_vito@21:1/5 to DirtBag on Fri Jun 24 14:35:40 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 11:21:18 AM UTC-7, DirtBag wrote:
    In 1959, Colt Manufacturing Company bought the design, which was created for use by the American military. In 1963, the company began selling a civilian version with improvements for that market. After Colt’s patents expired in 1977, other
    manufacturers began to produce and sell their own semi-automatic AR-15 style rifles. Colt retained the trademark but subsequently took the rifle off the market in 2019. They brought it back a year later due to great consumer demand and, of course,
    competition.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation has estimated that approximately 5 million to 10 million AR-15-style rifles exist in the U.S, though some estimates are even higher. The AR-15 and its knock-offs are now manufactured by dozens of companies in a
    wide range of configurations and calibers. Colt and its competitors now refer to it as “a modern sporting rifle.”

    Sporting rifle? Like for deer hunting? Duck hunting? Shooting clay pigeons?

    The AR-15 is in no way meant for hunting or “sport.” It’s meant to kill people. Lots of people all at once.

    Gun advocates will point to the Second Amendment rights. The amendment reads: “A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.”

    Makes sense: the colonists’ militia played a big role in the overthrow of British rule in America, and the Founding Fathers wanted to make damn sure it stayed that way.

    That was reasonable in 1789. Most militia organizations today envisage themselves as legally legitimate organizations, despite the fact that all 50 states prohibit private paramilitary activity. There is no government-regulated militia.

    Also, in 1789, the founding fathers had something much different in mind when they drafted that amendment. The typical firearms of the day were flintlock muskets and pistols. They could hold a single round at a time, and a skilled shooter could get off
    three or possibly four rounds in a minute of firing.

    Your comments are so lame. Folks have played Supreme Court Justice with your far out explanations and have been shown to be wrong time and time again. The Heller decision says the 2nd amendment allows you to keep a gun in your house. The SCOTUS
    decisions on concealed carry says that your rights should not be decided arbitrarily.

    BTW " It’s meant to kill people. Lots of people all at once. " No, if it was, it would be fully automatic. It would also be an AR10 firing .308 rather than .22 size rounds (.5.56)

    Nut cases use AR15s because they are cheap rifles.

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  • From Alan Bowler@21:1/5 to DirtBag on Fri Jun 24 21:04:01 2022
    On 2022-06-24 2:21 p.m., DirtBag wrote:

    Makes sense: the colonists’ militia played a big role in the
    overthrow of British rule in America, and the Founding Fathers
    wanted to make damn sure it stayed that way.

    They were concerned that Britain had plans to invade.
    Note the British invasion was cancelled. (except for the Beatles et al.)

    That was reasonable in 1789. Most militia organizations today envisage themselves as legally legitimate organizations, despite the fact
    that all 50 states prohibit private paramilitary activity.
    There is no government-regulated militia.

    Actually there are. The militias the founding fathers envisioned
    are not called the state National Guards. The yahoos running around
    calling themselves a militia are street gangs.

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  • From DirtBag@21:1/5 to Alan Bowler on Tue Jul 26 09:15:09 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:04:07 PM UTC-7, Alan Bowler wrote:
    On 2022-06-24 2:21 p.m., DirtBag wrote:

    Makes sense: the colonists’ militia played a big role in the
    overthrow of British rule in America, and the Founding Fathers
    wanted to make damn sure it stayed that way.
    They were concerned that Britain had plans to invade.
    Note the British invasion was cancelled. (except for the Beatles et al.)

    That was reasonable in 1789. Most militia organizations today envisage themselves as legally legitimate organizations, despite the fact
    that all 50 states prohibit private paramilitary activity.
    There is no government-regulated militia.
    Actually there are. The militias the founding fathers envisioned
    are not called the state National Guards. The yahoos running around
    calling themselves a militia are street gangs.

    Uh.... Fair enough.

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