What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything
bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org,
super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org,
super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/20351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
In news:chine.bleu-98A3EE.13024428062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents
/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
The rest of us are discussing June, 2022. Try to stay on topic.
In article <t9gm6d$1bigk$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-98A3EE.13024428062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents
/20351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
The rest of us are discussing June, 2022. Try to stay on topic.
So you're strongly held feelings about presidential
responsibility...
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
under two different presidents only reinforces your argument one
president alone is reponsible. Bill Clinton.
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
In article <t9hiet$1eduh$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
You blew it, newbie. You have revealed you don't care about
borders, human tragedies, presidential responsibility, or aught,
except you got something else you think you can blame on Biden.
You've become the boy who cried Moof! You're just a joke.
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything
bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message >news:t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me...
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org,
super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
I don't think they teach that anymore.. now it's creative introspective >examination of your gender identity. With extra credit for those that decide >they want to be something other than they are.
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>>bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade >>>shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
Swill
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>> bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
In article <t9hiet$1eduh$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
You blew it, newbie. ...
under two different presidents only reinforces your argument one
president alone is reponsible. Bill Clinton.
Seek help. Seriously. Your detachment from reality is concerning.
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:58:21 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me...
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org,
super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
I don't think they teach that anymore.. now it's creative introspective
examination of your gender identity. With extra credit for those that decide >> they want to be something other than they are.
I was surprised to learn some years ago that civics had been dropped
decades ago in most school systems.
This is a travesty. The average European knows as much or more about
how the US Constitution works than the average American.
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
In news:chine.bleu-3647DA.14493129062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9hiet$1eduh$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
You blew it, newbie. ...
No.
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners
In article <t9iqt3$1j0s7$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
Ha-ha. You're so transparent you're just shit stained window.
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who despises the constitution....
In article <t9iqsv$1j0s7$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3647DA.14493129062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9hiet$1eduh$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
You blew it, newbie. ...
No.
Ha ha ha. Snip and run.
In news:chine.bleu-E8BF5A.18102929062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of
foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who despises the constitution....
Non sequitur.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
In news:chine.bleu-BDB818.18082829062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9iqt3$1j0s7$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
Ha-ha. You're so transparent you're just shit stained window.
All hail Cleopatra, the Queen of Denial.
In news:tcmpbh93r7dgvmn6t9bpdinnb1nikeedq6@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:58:21 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me...
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in >>>>> a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
I don't think they teach that anymore.. now it's creative introspective
examination of your gender identity. With extra credit for those that
decide
they want to be something other than they are.
I was surprised to learn some years ago that civics had been dropped
decades ago in most school systems.
This is a travesty. The average European knows as much or more about
how the US Constitution works than the average American.
WHEREAS the original purpose of public education was to create a literate, informed electorate, and
WHEREAS public education has not only failed its mission, but has
abandoned it
altogether, and
WHEREAS foreigners must pass a test to prove their knowledge of American government, rights, and responsibilities, in order to become Citizens of
the
United States of America, be it hereby
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of
foreigners
seeking American citizenship in order to qualify to vote in State and
Federal
elections.
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of
foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who
despises the constitution.
In article <t9jebd$1ndjq$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-E8BF5A.18102929062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of
foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who despises the
constitution....
Non sequitur.
Snip away that pesky constitution.
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
In news:chine.bleu-41287A.00242530062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
Word salad.
In news:chine.bleu-41287A.00242530062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
Word salad.
In article <t9kdua$1uhhs$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-41287A.00242530062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
Word salad.
Thanks for your sympathy on my failing eyesight.
In article <t9kdua$1uhhs$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-41287A.00242530062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
Word salad.
Thanks for your sympathy on my failing eyesight.
In news:chine.bleu-98A3EE.13024428062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
The rest of us are discussing June, 2022. Try to stay on topic.
In news:chine.bleu-3647DA.14493129062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9hiet$1eduh$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... only applies to one person while equal tragedies...
What "equal tragedies"?
You blew it, newbie. ...
No.
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who
despises the constitution. There's a seat waiting for you on the
supreme court.
In news:tcmpbh93r7dgvmn6t9bpdinnb1nikeedq6@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:58:21 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me...
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
I don't think they teach that anymore.. now it's creative introspective
examination of your gender identity. With extra credit for those that decide
they want to be something other than they are.
I was surprised to learn some years ago that civics had been dropped
decades ago in most school systems.
This is a travesty. The average European knows as much or more about
how the US Constitution works than the average American.
WHEREAS the original purpose of public education was to create a literate, >informed electorate, and
WHEREAS public education has not only failed its mission, but has abandoned it >altogether, and
WHEREAS foreigners must pass a test to prove their knowledge of American >government, rights, and responsibilities, in order to become Citizens of the >United States of America, be it hereby
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners >seeking American citizenship in order to qualify to vote in State and Federal >elections.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
Swill
The people disagree with you..
In news:cgmpbhhebd1fl0bq1bhmd97o6f1ntv2trf@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>>> bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:30:07 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
Swill
The people disagree with you..
Cite.
Swill
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:15:14 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-98A3EE.13024428062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
The rest of us are discussing June, 2022. Try to stay on topic.
The discussion was actually about dead migrants. This June event is
not the first time this has happened.
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:10:37 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <t9iqt1$1j0s7$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners
I see you're one of those constitutional originalists who
despises the constitution. There's a seat waiting for you on the
supreme court.
He has a point. However, what if it turned out that registered
Democrats and Independents could pass the test twice as often as
registered Republicans.
He'd be the first in line to complain that the right to vote shouldn't
be tied to a test.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:12:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:cgmpbhhebd1fl0bq1bhmd97o6f1ntv2trf@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>>>> bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
"Likely"? Translation: "I have no evidence for it but I'm going to
believe it anyway."
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:10:16 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:tcmpbh93r7dgvmn6t9bpdinnb1nikeedq6@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:58:21 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me...
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
Did *all* pinkies sleep throught their Civics classes?
I don't think they teach that anymore.. now it's creative introspective >>>> examination of your gender identity. With extra credit for those that
decide they want to be something other than they are.
I was surprised to learn some years ago that civics had been dropped
decades ago in most school systems.
This is a travesty. The average European knows as much or more about
how the US Constitution works than the average American.
WHEREAS the original purpose of public education was to create a literate, >> informed electorate, and
WHEREAS public education has not only failed its mission, but has abandoned >> it altogether, and
WHEREAS foreigners must pass a test to prove their knowledge of American
government, rights, and responsibilities, in order to become Citizens of the >> United States of America, be it hereby
RESOLVED, that all citizens must pass the same tests required of foreigners >> seeking American citizenship in order to qualify to vote in State and Federal
elections.
Sounds great but it could lead to a "poll test" which would be
illegal. There would have to be a lifetime certification say, in high school.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Works for me. Alternately, a general or honorable discharge from the armed forces would also earn a citizen the right to vote.
In news:i7asbhh67jsn8ttk9m5uaf8vrh0nehio7l@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:15:14 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-98A3EE.13024428062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fkkv$15td2$4@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-3416B8.11390228062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9fg5h$15cdu$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:super70s-1AF972.11031428062022@reader01.eternal-september.org, >>>>>>> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a
tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
Because Biden is POTUS; POTUS is responsible for border security.
https://www.wral.com/a-look-at-the-deadliest-migrant-suffocation-incidents/2
0351000/?version=amp
July 23, 2017: Eight immigrants were found dead in a sweltering
trailer at a San Antonio Walmart parking lot. Two others died
later in hospitals. The driver was sentenced to life in prison.
May 14, 2003: 19 migrants died inside a sweltering
tractor-trailer while they traveled from South Texas to Houston.
So Obama.
Do you have a cousin named Mork?
Biden was president in 2017 or 2003? If not, who do you blame?
The rest of us are discussing June, 2022. Try to stay on topic.
The discussion was actually about dead migrants. This June event is
not the first time this has happened.
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
He'd be the first in line to complain that the right to vote shouldn't
be tied to a test.
Actually, I've declined to vote on issues or candidates with which I was >unfamiliar, and I wish others would do the same.
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Works for me. Alternately, a general or honorable discharge from the armed >forces would also earn a citizen the right to vote.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:00:45 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:30:07 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country. >>>>Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
The people disagree with you..
Cite.
<LOL> You deleted my cite and asked for a cite.. Here it is again..
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-immigration-7359.html
In news:apasbh9rgjqorlo4q2d9h1799c4vks3826@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:12:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:cgmpbhhebd1fl0bq1bhmd97o6f1ntv2trf@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>>> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything >>>>>> bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade
shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
"Likely"? Translation: "I have no evidence for it but I'm going to
believe it anyway."
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before Biden's >inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in court at some >future date, then released. We know many have been transported to other states >by the feds.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after they
crossed the border.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:59:35 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:00:45 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:30:07 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country. >>>>>Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
The people disagree with you..
Cite.
<LOL> You deleted my cite and asked for a cite.. Here it is again..
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-immigration-7359.html
How does this prove that Biden personally authorized the truck those
people died in?
Swill
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:15:51 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
But as Dictat . . . er, President, he also has powers of discretion.
Not that I agree with an illegally open border, I want to see it
legally open.
Illegal immigration has been declining or flat since 2007 while the
illegal immigrant population has declined. Mexican immigrants are no
longer the majority of illegals in this country. >https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Hate to admit it, but that's also part of our current inflation and is
the primary driver for wage increases. The supply of cheap labor
coming in from the south is drying up. You don't expect Americans to
wash dishes or perform other unskilled labor for $10 an hour under the
table, do you?
For years I've noticed blacks, women and immigrants being the majority
of staff in restaurants, especially fast food. Lately though, as
wages have come up, I'm seeing more white males at McD's, Hardee's and
even full service restaurants.
On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 10:47:00 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:59:35 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:00:45 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:How does this prove that Biden personally authorized the truck those
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:30:07 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:<LOL> You deleted my cite and asked for a cite.. Here it is again.. >>>https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-immigration-7359.html
Cite.The people disagree with you..46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country. >>>>>>Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
people died in?
<LOL> Move the goalposts much?
On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 14:28:43 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 10:47:00 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:59:35 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 19:00:45 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:How does this prove that Biden personally authorized the truck those >>>people died in?
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:30:07 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>>>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:<LOL> You deleted my cite and asked for a cite.. Here it is again.. >>>>https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-immigration-7359.html
Cite.The people disagree with you..46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country. >>>>>>>Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
<LOL> Move the goalposts much?
You claimed: "46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled
into the country."
But you still have not explained how he did it.
Iow, you're talking out of your ass.
Swill
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 06:38:14 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-41287A.00242530062022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9jebi$1ndjq$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Ha-Ha. You against attempt assault with a flaccid weapon.
Word salad.
Biden speech writer?
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws
as made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than[sic] it's off-topic to applaud your hypocrisy.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:17:00 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
He'd be the first in line to complain that the right to vote shouldn't
be tied to a test.
Actually, I've declined to vote on issues or candidates with which I was
unfamiliar, and I wish others would do the same.
If that was the rule, voter turnout would rarely exceed 10%.
In article <t9m4a3$26kpp$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Works for me. Alternately, a general or honorable discharge from the armed >> forces would also earn a citizen the right to vote.
In your world some quartermaster deliverring cigarettes was more
important for the war effort than Oppenheimer. Or John Wayne. Or
Ronald Reagan.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 20:41:04 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Works for me. Alternately, a general or honorable discharge from the armed >> forces would also earn a citizen the right to vote.
Including non citizen immigrants, legal or not?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:15:51 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the
laws as made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
But as Dictat . . . er, President, he also has powers of discretion.
Not that I agree with an illegally open border, I want to see it
legally open.
Illegal immigration has been declining or flat since 2007 while the
illegal immigrant population has declined. Mexican immigrants are no
longer the majority of illegals in this country. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Hate to admit it, but that's also part of our current inflation and is
the primary driver for wage increases. The supply of cheap labor
coming in from the south is drying up. You don't expect Americans to
wash dishes or perform other unskilled labor for $10 an hour under the
table, do you?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:18:37 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:apasbh9rgjqorlo4q2d9h1799c4vks3826@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 17:12:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:cgmpbhhebd1fl0bq1bhmd97o6f1ntv2trf@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:38:45 -0400, Blue Lives Matter<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:03:14 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
What does "Biden immigration" have to do with 46 people found dead in a >>>>>>> tractor-trailer in San Antonio?
No Republican elected official in Texas is ever responsible for anything
bad in that state apparently, we found that out after the Ulvade >>>>>>> shooting.
46 people who biden allowed to be illegally smuggled into the country.
Not Biden personally. Nor his policies.
His "catch and release" policy likely led to this.
"Likely"? Translation: "I have no evidence for it but I'm going to
believe it anyway."
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before Biden's
inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in court at some >> future date, then released. We know many have been transported to other
states by the feds.
There are more border agents and they're apprehending more illegals.
You're getting your wish, actually and it's driving wages through the
roof.
Due to a water leak, the insurance company is repairing some rooms in
the house. The bathroom was torn out over a week's time almost a
month ago and nobody has been back to finish it in over two weeks. The contractor can't find workers. Ten years ago it would have been a
bunch of Mexicans working for low cash wages and the entire job would
have been done in a week. Now, it's been only white males showing up
and we can't get the work done.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after >> they crossed the border.
Would you like some facts with your whine?
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/rising-border-encounters-in-2021
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before Biden's >inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in court at some >future date, then released. We know many have been transported to other states >by the feds.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after they
crossed the border.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:18:37 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before Biden's
inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in court at some >> future date, then released. We know many have been transported to other
states by the feds.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after >> they crossed the border.
I'm a teacher, Headley... albeit, a *retired* teacher. I wanted to be
a teacher back in the '50s because teachers received a textbook with
the answers to life's questions printed marginally in red font.
Later, I would learn that life isn't so simple, and I never found my
book with all the answers.
I see, however, that you have found yours: "If it's a Republican
political marker, it's good; if it was enacted by a Democrat, it's
bad." I envy the simplicity of your life, Headley. You don't labor
under the need to think critically. I wish *I* never had to
re-examine my beliefs through the lens of a changing world.
Would you like some facts with your whine?
An observation, not a whine.
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they accepting illegal aliens?
In article <t9pq9h$2lfr6$5@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they accepting >> illegal aliens?
Since those don't exist, they can't.
In news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the laws
as made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than[sic] it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
???
In article <t9pq9i$2lfr6$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Would you like some facts with your whine?
An observation, not a whine.
And you pluck out your eyes when you don't want to observe.
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:11:42 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <t9pq9h$2lfr6$5@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they accepting >>> illegal aliens?
Since those don't exist, they can't.
LOL
Welcome to Siri's DreamWorldT!
You must be this tall to get on the rides!
In news:qe41chl6l78bsjst7d4lvnpln5j7hst10d@4ax.com, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:11:42 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <t9pq9h$2lfr6$5@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they
accepting
illegal aliens?
Since those don't exist, they can't.
LOL
In news:chine.bleu-8AED14.11085702072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9pq9i$2lfr6$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Would you like some facts with your whine?
An observation, not a whine.
And you pluck out your eyes when you don't want to observe.
Since I obviously haven't done that yet, we'll just put that down to more of your bullshit.
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
In news:cs1ubh9nve2lv67t1747pvhdq2ttqiai33@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:15:51 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the >>> laws as made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
But as Dictat . . . er, President, he also has powers of discretion.
Not that I agree with an illegally open border, I want to see it
legally open.
Illegal immigration has been declining or flat since 2007 while the
illegal immigrant population has declined. Mexican immigrants are no
longer the majority of illegals in this country.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
That's ancient history; there's a new sheriff in town--
"In the absence of a border deterrence policy, illegal entries have soared. >Border Patrol agents at the southwest border apprehended a record number of >illegal entrants in fiscal year 2021 and set a new monthly record for >apprehensions there in May.
"All told, CBP has encountered more than 2.7 million illegal immigrants at the >US-Mexico line since February 2021. DHS expelled about 53% of them under Title >42, but more than 1.28 million others were processed for removal proceedings, >and the administration has released nearly 1.05 million of those into the United
States - where they will remain indefinitely - through the end of May...."
https://nypost.com/2022/06/30/biden-has-no-policy-to-deter-illegal-immigration-but-fight-isnt-over-yet/
Hate to admit it, but that's also part of our current inflation and is
the primary driver for wage increases. The supply of cheap labor
coming in from the south is drying up. You don't expect Americans to
wash dishes or perform other unskilled labor for $10 an hour under the
table, do you?
If they're not on the dole, hell yeah I do.
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
The unfilled jobs locally were
formerly filled by gringos.
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like hiring
Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
In news:o12ubh1anmtgbkltmhbrskn6mpuijf41a9@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 20:41:04 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Works for me. Alternately, a general or honorable discharge from the armed >>> forces would also earn a citizen the right to vote.
Including non citizen immigrants, legal or not?
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they accepting >illegal aliens?
You know, Headley, I was a Republican until around '08. Actually, I
had been experiencing cognitive dissonance for a couple of years;
however, I believed strongly in John McCain and supported him
fervently in the primaries... then, for reasons unknown, he selected
Sarah Palin as his V.P. candidate. I simply could no longer support
the Republican platform; they had become too devisive. Fiscally, I'm
still a conservative, but the political "conservatives" no longer call
for a balanced budget.
"Deficits don't matter." - Dick Cheney
In news:71s0chd5bnb619uo14hprsshcn4qjo69bn@4ax.com, !Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:18:37 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before Biden's
inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in court at some
future date, then released. We know many have been transported to other
states by the feds.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after >>> they crossed the border.
I'm a teacher, Headley... albeit, a *retired* teacher. I wanted to be
a teacher back in the '50s because teachers received a textbook with
the answers to life's questions printed marginally in red font.
Later, I would learn that life isn't so simple, and I never found my
book with all the answers.
I see, however, that you have found yours: "If it's a Republican
political marker, it's good; if it was enacted by a Democrat, it's
bad." I envy the simplicity of your life, Headley. You don't labor
under the need to think critically. I wish *I* never had to
re-examine my beliefs through the lens of a changing world.
What I stated above are facts, whether we believe in them or not.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 10:36:31 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:71s0chd5bnb619uo14hprsshcn4qjo69bn@4ax.com, !Jones <x@y.com> typed: >>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:18:37 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
We know more are attempting to cross the border illegally than before
Biden's inauguration. We know most are being given orders to appear in >>>> court at some future date, then released. We know many have been
transported to other states by the feds.
Authorities believe these illegal aliens boarded the truck in Laredo, after
they crossed the border.
I'm a teacher, Headley... albeit, a *retired* teacher. I wanted to be
a teacher back in the '50s because teachers received a textbook with
the answers to life's questions printed marginally in red font.
Later, I would learn that life isn't so simple, and I never found my
book with all the answers.
I see, however, that you have found yours: "If it's a Republican
political marker, it's good; if it was enacted by a Democrat, it's
bad." I envy the simplicity of your life, Headley. You don't labor
under the need to think critically. I wish *I* never had to
re-examine my beliefs through the lens of a changing world.
What I stated above are facts, whether we believe in them or not.
I never suggested they weren't. Usenet is *nothing* if not rife with "authorities" who believe in all manner of "facts". Respected public
figures have been acknowledging that pilots and others have spotted
flying objects that they couldn't identify... i.e.: UFOs. OTOH, it
has been debunked by anonymous secret service agents willing to
testify under oath that it never happened... and that's a fact!
Miguel de Cervantes famously has his character, Don Quixote, state:
"Facts are the enemy of truth." This statement has been much didacted
and analysed by the world's philosophers. (And *that* is also a fact;
Google the quote!) I could write a book on what some authorities
believe he meant. What *I* believe he meant was that the best way to obfuscate the truth is to bury it in facts.
Yuo see, Headley, we have been here for years throwing about study
after study, fact after fact, but are we any closer to truth? Your
death grip on your prejudices hasn't budged that I can see. The
difference between us is that I acknowledge that my beliefs are
prejudices... you have confused yours with Plato's definition of
Truth.
I never suggested they weren't. Usenet is *nothing* if not rife with
"authorities" who believe in all manner of "facts". Respected public
figures have been acknowledging that pilots and others have spotted
flying objects that they couldn't identify... i.e.: UFOs. OTOH, it
has been debunked by anonymous secret service agents willing to
testify under oath that it never happened... and that's a fact!
Then you should have no trouble providing a citation.
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 04:44:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
Cite how he is doing that.
Swill
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like hiring
Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 19:14:57 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I never suggested they weren't. Usenet is *nothing* if not rife with
"authorities" who believe in all manner of "facts". Respected public
figures have been acknowledging that pilots and others have spotted
flying objects that they couldn't identify... i.e.: UFOs. OTOH, it
has been debunked by anonymous secret service agents willing to
testify under oath that it never happened... and that's a fact!
Then you should have no trouble providing a citation.
That's almost humorous.
Yuo see, Headley, we have been here for years throwing about study
after study, fact after fact, but are we any closer to truth? Your
death grip on your prejudices hasn't budged that I can see. The
difference between us is that I acknowledge that my beliefs are
prejudices... you have confused yours with Plato's definition of
Truth.
Did any of your students make it to the end of the class periods awake?
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:02:39 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 04:44:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
Cite how he is doing that.
Swill
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:05:30 -0400, in talk.politics.guns >governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Deficits don't matter." - Dick Cheney
"There exists tremendous hope among Americans as we look forward and
we begin to see the light at the end of the tunnel.” - Donald Trump, >2/26/2020 as the US surpassed 1,000 Covid-19 deaths.
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:02:39 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 04:44:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
Cite how he is doing that.
Swill
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built?
The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon
founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in
donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
Swill
Years back I spent some weeks putting together a statistical report on
the national debt that showed conclusively that debt increased under >Republican rule going back as far as the early 19th century. The
rightists in here vigorously argued I had it wrong and that
Republicans were far more fiscally responsible than Democrats.
Then Cheney said, "Deficits don't matter" just as Bush was raising the
debt from less than 6T to almost 12T and they've since mostly shut up
about it.
Swill
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built?
The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon
founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in
donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Neither party has shown any inclination to balance the budget. In the
early to mid '70s, we found that we could finance the government by
selling treasury bonds. I didn't like Jimmy Carter's politics, but he
was right on that matter! Essentially, the Democratic party threw him
under the bus, mostly over that. The real deficit spender (as a
percent of the GNP) was Reagan. Neither of the Bushs took it on and
Clinton just got lucky... he didn't buy *down* the debt any, mind you.
I liked Obama, but he was close to Reagan in deficit spending.
Trump
also spent like a drunken sailor.
At the end of the day, the books all balance.
The stimulus payments (started by Trump; however, Biden didn't exactly
trip over himself to end it) were *pure* deficit... I blame that for
the inflation; you cannot print free money! I guess it *stimulated*
the economy, huh?
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon
founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in
donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Biden asked for more border money for his 2023 budget and Senate
Republicans complained.
"Senate Republicans balk on funds related to Biden’s border move
Officials say daily migrant encounters could triple after the
rescission of the Title 42 policy"
"Republicans largely aren’t interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month." >https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"President Joe Biden proposed the second budget of his term today...
"Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), another component of DHS, will
receive 13% more funding than 2021, with the administration’s request
of $15.3 billion to hire an additional 300 Border Patrol agents and
300 officials to process the paperwork and applications of
undocumented people entering the country at the southwest border." >https://www.boundless.com/blog/biden-requests-56-7-billion-dhs-2023-budget/
2022 final spending in the omnibus bill approved by Congress was down
as reported by the NY Post back in March. >https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/biden-cuts-border-funding-as-his-policies-are-about-to-overwhelm-it/
So, Biden signs an omnibus bill that reduces border security spending
and Republicans complain.
Biden asks for an increase in border security spending for next year
and Republicans complain.
Hmmm. . . . .
Swill
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:02:39 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 04:44:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
Cite how he is doing that.
Swill
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built?
The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon
founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in
donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Swill
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:02:39 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 04:44:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>>>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
Biden allows illegals to come through the border.
Cite how he is doing that.
Swill
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more...
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon
founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in
donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Swill
Quoting wikipedia is never a good start to making your case :)
Obama's deficits were a direct result of revenue loss due to the
economy collapsing under Bush compounded by stimulus spending. His
deficits dropped every year he was in office. Deficit spending surged
under Trump even before the pandemic.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 09:40:40 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon >>>>founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in >>>>donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Quoting wikipedia is never a good start to making your case :)
Especially when the wiki cite doesn't support his claim.
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
By stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more... >>>>*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon >>>>founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in >>>>donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Biden asked for more border money for his 2023 budget and Senate >>Republicans complained.
"Senate Republicans balk on funds related to Biden’s border move
Officials say daily migrant encounters could triple after the
rescission of the Title 42 policy"
"Republicans largely aren’t interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month." >>https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"President Joe Biden proposed the second budget of his term today...
"Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), another component of DHS, will
receive 13% more funding than 2021, with the administration’s request
of $15.3 billion to hire an additional 300 Border Patrol agents and
300 officials to process the paperwork and applications of
undocumented people entering the country at the southwest border." >>https://www.boundless.com/blog/biden-requests-56-7-billion-dhs-2023-budget/ >>
2022 final spending in the omnibus bill approved by Congress was down
as reported by the NY Post back in March. >>https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/biden-cuts-border-funding-as-his-policies-are-about-to-overwhelm-it/
So, Biden signs an omnibus bill that reduces border security spending
and Republicans complain.
Biden asks for an increase in border security spending for next year
and Republicans complain.
Hmmm. . . . .
Funding food, shelter, and care for illegals is not border security, >Dummy.....
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 09:51:22 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 09:40:40 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon >>>>>founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in >>>>>donations?<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stopped
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall >>>>
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Quoting wikipedia is never a good start to making your case :)
Then here are some non wiki resources. As I noted above, the wiki
article is an overview. If you want to suss out the details on your
own, be my guest. >https://www.courthousenews.com/trial-on-we-build-the-wall-fraud-kicks-off-for-holdout-defendant/
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/20/we-build-wall-brian-kolfage/ >https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/22/two-plead-guilty-fraud-we-build-the-wall-project-trump-bannon
https://www.azmirror.com/2022/05/02/problems-remain-for-we-build-the-wall-group-after-founders-guilty-plea/
You can't get much more official than this: >https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
Do you have any news more current than this? >https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-politics-donald-trump-453dfc35ce16d42034526acb6f24cce9
Especially when the wiki cite doesn't support his claim.
So, you disagree? Trump really did build his wall?
Kolfage didn't create a non profit to build a wall and then pocket
millions? Are you saying those things are true?
Of course you're lying. You're also lying that the cite doesn't
support my statement.
"On August 20, 2020, the acting U.S. attorney for the Southern
District of New York unsealed an indictment charging Brian Kolfage,
Steve Bannon, Andrew Badolato and Timothy Shea[5][12][13][14] with a
scheme to defraud hundreds of thousands of donors by illegally taking
funds for personal use."
Swill
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 04:41:28 -0400, Blue Lives Matter ><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 13:05:18 -0400, Blue Lives Matter >>><Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 12:40:06 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 06:32:09 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
<LOL> Nice try.. But.. the wall was being built and Biden stoppedBy stopping construction if the wall, for one thing. There are more... >>>>>*laughs and points* You mean the wall Trump promised but never built? >>>>>The one Air Force vet Brian Kolfage and Trump buddy Steve Bannon >>>>>founded "We Build the Wall" for before they stole millions in >>>>>donations?
Scandal overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Build_the_Wall >>>>
it. He also reduced the funding for border security.
Biden asked for more border money for his 2023 budget and Senate >>>Republicans complained.
"Senate Republicans balk on funds related to Biden’s border move >>>Officials say daily migrant encounters could triple after the
rescission of the Title 42 policy"
"Republicans largely aren’t interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month." >>>https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"President Joe Biden proposed the second budget of his term today...
"Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), another component of DHS, will
receive 13% more funding than 2021, with the administration’s request
of $15.3 billion to hire an additional 300 Border Patrol agents and
300 officials to process the paperwork and applications of
undocumented people entering the country at the southwest border." >>>https://www.boundless.com/blog/biden-requests-56-7-billion-dhs-2023-budget/ >>>
2022 final spending in the omnibus bill approved by Congress was down
as reported by the NY Post back in March. >>>https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/biden-cuts-border-funding-as-his-policies-are-about-to-overwhelm-it/
So, Biden signs an omnibus bill that reduces border security spending
and Republicans complain.
Biden asks for an increase in border security spending for next year
and Republicans complain.
Hmmm. . . . .
Funding food, shelter, and care for illegals is not border security, >>Dummy.....
What part of "Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), another component of
DHS, will receive 13% more funding than 2021, with the
administration’s request of $15.3 billion to hire an additional 300
Border Patrol agents" did you not understand?
Why do you keep lying? Seriously, I'd like to know why you think lies
help you.
Swill
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:41:47 -0400, in talk.politics.guns >governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
Obama's deficits were a direct result of revenue loss due to the
economy collapsing under Bush compounded by stimulus spending. His >>deficits dropped every year he was in office. Deficit spending surged >>under Trump even before the pandemic.
Likely so; however, "we, the people" are ultimately responsible for
the actions of our elected leaders, and "we" haven't been rigorous
about holding our leaders accountable for fiscal responsibility. We
must be *able* to sell T-notes to keep running during those times of
economic retraction; however, in the macro perspective (over a decade
or so), our budget should balance.
In that area, congress is actually the responsible entity. The POTUS
has some leverage, but it's congress that generates the budget. Also, >congressional reps tend to serve longer terms than the POTUS.
Ultimately, the responsibility rests with the voters.
Politicians
*love* to cut taxes during an election year. Bush (43) was very bad
about that: first, (while waving the flag) he invaded Afghanistan,
then he cut taxes, then he mailed out free money.
You really can't
blame Obama when the bottom fell out around '08.
The president gets the economy for better or for worse, but a
president doesn't have a lot of control over it.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like
hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
In news:aom1ch9pjtrijve8hcnp53ailu041sgcuh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like >> hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
I'm guessing you haven't seen all the Bruce Willis movies that have gone straight to DVD in the past two or three years.
In news:aom1ch9pjtrijve8hcnp53ailu041sgcuh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like >>> hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
I'm guessing you haven't seen all the Bruce Willis movies that have gone >straight to DVD in the past two or three years.
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the
laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the >>> laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of the >office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes they >would exist.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
Where's here.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 09:00:51 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:cs1ubh9nve2lv67t1747pvhdq2ttqiai33@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:15:51 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Btw, those people would still be alive if we were to update our
immigration law to allow more folks in.
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce the >>>> laws as made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
But as Dictat . . . er, President, he also has powers of discretion.
Not that I agree with an illegally open border, I want to see it
legally open.
Illegal immigration has been declining or flat since 2007 while the
illegal immigrant population has declined. Mexican immigrants are no
longer the majority of illegals in this country.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
That's ancient history; there's a new sheriff in town--
"In the absence of a border deterrence policy, illegal entries have soared. >> Border Patrol agents at the southwest border apprehended a record number of >> illegal entrants in fiscal year 2021 and set a new monthly record for
apprehensions there in May.
"All told, CBP has encountered more than 2.7 million illegal immigrants at >> the US-Mexico line since February 2021. DHS expelled about 53% of them under >> Title 42, but more than 1.28 million others were processed for removal
proceedings, and the administration has released nearly 1.05 million of
those into the United States - where they will remain indefinitely - through >> the end of May...."
You know, if you had bothered to read the link I posted, you would
find that information in there.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/30/biden-has-no-policy-to-deter-illegal-immigration-but-fight-isnt-over-yet/
Hate to admit it, but that's also part of our current inflation and is
the primary driver for wage increases. The supply of cheap labor
coming in from the south is drying up. You don't expect Americans to
wash dishes or perform other unskilled labor for $10 an hour under the
table, do you?
If they're not on the dole, hell yeah I do.
I don't and neither do they....
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country has dropped....
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are raising prices to pay for it.
In article <t9q7ks$2mt62$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:qe41chl6l78bsjst7d4lvnpln5j7hst10d@4ax.com, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 02 Jul 2022 11:11:42 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <t9pq9h$2lfr6$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I know recruiters are having trouble filling quotas, but are they
accepting illegal aliens?
Since those don't exist, they can't.
LOL
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
In article <t9q7l0$2mt62$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-8AED14.11085702072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9pq9i$2lfr6$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Would you like some facts with your whine?
An observation, not a whine.
And you pluck out your eyes when you don't want to observe.
Since I obviously haven't done that yet, we'll just put that down to more of >> your bullshit.
What about the stacks of bodies with republican presidents?
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:21:39 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce
the
laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of
the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes they >>would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and choose.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes they >>>would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and
choose.
I never said it did... However, if we go by your standard then you have no >basis to comply with a Republican President does so...
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:h6p9chprapm96d3lvbmgrlf6fqhaibf8eh@4ax.com...
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:21:39 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce >>>>> the
laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes they >>>would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and
choose.
I never said it did...
However, if we go by your standard
then you have no
basis to comply with a Republican President does so...
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
In news:chine.bleu-83FCA4.13390602072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9q7l0$2mt62$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-8AED14.11085702072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <t9pq9i$2lfr6$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Would you like some facts with your whine?
An observation, not a whine.
And you pluck out your eyes when you don't want to observe.
Since I obviously haven't done that yet, we'll just put that down to more of
your bullshit.
What about the stacks of bodies with republican presidents?
Where are these stacks of bodies? Don't these "republican presidents" realize >they're with stacks of bodies?
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into >> depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have >> your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country has dropped....
Bullshit.
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are raising >> prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
Where's here.
Washington.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 06:47:27 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:h6p9chprapm96d3lvbmgrlf6fqhaibf8eh@4ax.com...
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:21:39 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce >>>>>> the
laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>>the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes >>>>they
would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and
choose.
And now the long version.
I never said it did...
It what? What do you mean by 'it'?
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 06:47:27 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>>the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes >>>>they
would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and
choose.
I never said it did... However, if we go by your standard then you have no >>basis to comply with a Republican President does so...
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
Why are you upset? All I did was point out that the goose and gander
are feeding from the same trough.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:pjbbchdfdlf5dn7v9ucc8vjmcnd2t4c271@4ax.com...
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 06:47:27 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>>> the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes they
would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and >>>> choose.
I never said it did... However, if we go by your standard then you have no >>> basis to comply with a Republican President does so...
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
Why are you upset? All I did was point out that the goose and gander
are feeding from the same trough.
So as long as everyone is doing it that makes it acceptable?
In article <ta0n75$3l7ld$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:aom1ch9pjtrijve8hcnp53ailu041sgcuh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like >>>> hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
I'm guessing you haven't seen all the Bruce Willis movies that have gone
straight to DVD in the past two or three years.
Most people have given Willis a pass once his news came out....
... One theory is he was trying to get as much money as possible for his family before he was forced to retire.
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
Why are you upset? All I did was point out that the goose and gander
are feeding from the same trough.
So as long as everyone is doing it that makes it acceptable?
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:hnbbch5aprigv8f56v8c04bj6tfr5r9c3a@4ax.com...
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 06:47:27 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:h6p9chprapm96d3lvbmgrlf6fqhaibf8eh@4ax.com...
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:21:39 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:chine.bleu-FE7849.02250401072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <t9m4a8$26kpp$3@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Until Congress does that, the Chief Executive is required to enforce >>>>>>> the
laws
as
made by Congress, not as he wishes they were.
Unless the Chief Executive is a republican than it's off-topic to
applaud your hypocrisy.
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations of >>>>>the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes >>>>>they
would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and >>>> choose.
And now the long version.
I never said it did...
It what? What do you mean by 'it'?
And just like that Swill's brain loses track of the conversation.....
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
Where's here.
Washington.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:48:23 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into >>> depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have >>> your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country has
dropped....
Bullshit.
Take an aspirin. I'm about to reference you to some facts and I know
how painful that might be.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017,
there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for
these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who
have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Then there's this: https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
I explained already that if employers will stop giving jobs to
illegals, illegal immigration will stop.
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are raising >>> prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been
lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying
about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in
America.
In news:chine.bleu-0A7DEC.00451305072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta0n75$3l7ld$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:aom1ch9pjtrijve8hcnp53ailu041sgcuh@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like >>>> hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
I'm guessing you haven't seen all the Bruce Willis movies that have gone >> straight to DVD in the past two or three years.
Most people have given Willis a pass once his news came out....
Most in the media have given Biden a pass once his senility became undeniable.
... One theory is he was trying to get as much money as possible for his family before he was forced to retire.
What a coincidence!
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
In article <ta4shv$4mo3$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-0A7DEC.00451305072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta0n75$3l7ld$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:aom1ch9pjtrijve8hcnp53ailu041sgcuh@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 07:24:47 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I don't blame his writers. Voting for Biden to be your president is like >>>>>> hiring Bruce Willis to be in your action movie.
A guarantee of success?
I'm guessing you haven't seen all the Bruce Willis movies that have gone >>>> straight to DVD in the past two or three years.
Most people have given Willis a pass once his news came out....
Most in the media have given Biden a pass once his senility became
undeniable.
... One theory is he was trying to get as much money as possible for his >>> family before he was forced to retire.
What a coincidence!
'Oh, no my attacks on Bruce Willis have been shown to be in poor
taste....
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
On 7/6/2022 11:30 AM, Scout wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pjbbchdfdlf5dn7v9ucc8vjmcnd2t4c271@4ax.com...
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 06:47:27 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
The party of the President doesn't change the duties and obligations >>>>>> of
the
office. His job is to enforce the laws that exist... now as he wishes >>>>>> they
would exist.
Which doesn't change the fact that Republican Presidents also pick and >>>>> choose.
I never said it did... However, if we go by your standard then you have >>>> no
basis to comply with a Republican President does so...
Now are you REALLY sure, that's the standard you want to get behind?
Why are you upset? All I did was point out that the goose and gander
are feeding from the same trough.
So as long as everyone is doing it that makes it acceptable?
No, scooter, it just means that when you bitch about it from one but not
the other, it means you're a fucking hypocrite. That's what it means, scooter.
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Take an aspirin. I'm about to reference you to some facts and I know... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into >>>> depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have >>>> your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country hasBullshit.
dropped....
how painful that might be. >>https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017,
there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for
these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who
have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
It's been more than the last couple of months. Try since the end of 2020, after
months of Democrat governors shutting down their states.
washingtonpost.com
Migrant caravans could be early test for Biden and post-Trump relations with >Mexico
By Kevin Sieff and Nick Miroff
December 2, 2020 at 8:00 a.m. EST
" ... President-elect Joe Biden could face a difficult test at the border as >soon as he takes office. He has pledged to revoke the Migration Protection >Protocols that Trump used to bounce border-crossers back into Mexico, but Biden
has not indicated how he might handle a new influx of tens of thousands of >migrants trying to enter the country. With Central America's economies hammered
by the coronavirus pandemic and several powerful hurricanes this year, the >elements of a new crisis are gathering...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/02/biden-migrant-caravans/
Four months later...
washingtonpost.com
At the border, a widely predicted crisis that caught Biden off guard
By Nick Miroff
April 26, 2021 at 3:04 p.m. EDT
"While there is high support for President Biden's handling of the coronavirus >pandemic and the new president has enjoyed higher approval ratings than his >predecessor, there are widespread worries about his management of the U.S. >southern border, which has been his worst polling issue.
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has arrived at >the border in recent weeks, including a record number of teenagers and children
traveling without their parents who need to be sheltered for weeks. Last month,
172,331 migrants were taken into custody by U.S. Customs and Border Protection,
the highest total in nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
I explained already that if employers will stop giving jobs to
illegals, illegal immigration will stop.
Then Congress should expand and streamline the H2-A program.
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are raising
prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been
lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying
about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in
America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
Noting the quality of Willis' choices in jobs to take is not an attack. You seem
awfully defensive about an action-movie star.
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about falseAre you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined
so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
Swill
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:07:12 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Noting the quality of Willis' choices in jobs to take is not an attack. You >> seem awfully defensive about an action-movie star.
Considering he has contracted a disease that makes it impossible for
him to pursue his profession, you might be a bit more empathetic to
his plight.
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
Where's here.
Washington.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:37:01 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
Oh, please . . . *rolleyes* Mexicans have been mentioned so much by
you xenophobes they don't even need to be mentioned anymore to be the
topic of conversation. You guys have bitched so fucking much about
wetbacks for so fucking long that anybody with a brain is going to
assume...
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined
so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> >> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined
so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just >that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
"Siri" claimed illegal aliens don't exist.
In news:uulech1ng48sadcgd8etlcf01kr4f8mgi9@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:37:01 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
Oh, please . . . *rolleyes* Mexicans have been mentioned so much by
you xenophobes they don't even need to be mentioned anymore to be the
topic of conversation. You guys have bitched so fucking much about
wetbacks for so fucking long that anybody with a brain is going to
assume...
There's your problem.
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote,
naturalization test in order to vote,
Literacy tests for voting are unconstitutional, o oozing scarlet red maxipad. >Looks like you failed your own test.
You dumb mackerel-reeking cunt.
There's your problem.
snip so much
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> >> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined
so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just >that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
"Siri" claimed illegal aliens don't exist.
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
In news:uulech1ng48sadcgd8etlcf01kr4f8mgi9@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:37:01 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
Oh, please . . . *rolleyes* Mexicans have been mentioned so much by
you xenophobes they don't even need to be mentioned anymore to be the
topic of conversation. You guys have bitched so fucking much about
wetbacks for so fucking long that anybody with a brain is going to
assume...
There's your problem.
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread.
I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote,
and somehow, as is usually the case when pinkies are involved, a pinkie lays >down the RACE card.
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed >that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote
When we copy the entire thread, it quickly becomes tediously long and incoherently garbled. Include only that to which you actually reply
and write on point.
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
On 7/8/2022 12:52 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote
When we copy the entire thread, it quickly becomes tediously long and
incoherently garbled. Include only that to which you actually reply
and write on point.
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
The point is that requiring one to pass the naturalization test is exactly the >sort of literacy test that has been ruled unconstitutional.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed >>that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote
When we copy the entire thread, it quickly becomes tediously long and >incoherently garbled. Include only that to which you actually reply
and write on point.
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the >naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uulech1ng48sadcgd8etlcf01kr4f8mgi9@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:37:01 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
Oh, please . . . *rolleyes* Mexicans have been mentioned so much by
you xenophobes they don't even need to be mentioned anymore to be the
topic of conversation. You guys have bitched so fucking much about
wetbacks for so fucking long that anybody with a brain is going to
assume...
There's your problem.
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread.
Guilty dog hollers first.
I don't snip unless a post has gone into hundreds of lines and I only
need to reply to a bit at the end. I'm also careful to keep the
attrib lines sorted correctly. If you don't know how to back up in a
thread and read background, that's not my problem.
Take Siri's edits up with her.
I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to
vote, and somehow, as is usually the case when pinkies are involved, a
pinkie lays down the RACE card.
You forget who you're replying to. I agreed with that suggestion and
further suggested that it be done in high school civics class and
registered before graduation.
I don't know why we're not registering 18 year olds to vote already
while in high school unless it's for the same reason Civics is no
longer taught. 'Keep them ignorant and away from the polls?'
Somebody else must have pulled out the race card....
... Maybe it was you. We already know you're a pinkie. You support Trump.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to
vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:42:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> >>> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
I appreciate your attempt to dodge, but we're not talking about bank robbery,...
... we're talking about illegal immigration and terror attacks.
Swill
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined
so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just
that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
Pot. Kettle. Black. Reagan was the most accomplished liar ever to
occupy the White House. He was an ACTOR BY TRADE. Yet the right
believed him. He signed an amnesty but they still believed he was
tough on immigration. The right credits him with ending the Cold War.
It was the Democrats who did that ...
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:53:38 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into
depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have
your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country has
dropped....
Bullshit.
Take an aspirin. I'm about to reference you to some facts and I know
how painful that might be.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017,
there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for
these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who
have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
You should be doing that. I already have.
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
It's been more than the last couple of months. Try since the end of 2020,
after months of Democrat governors shutting down their states.
washingtonpost.com
Migrant caravans could be early test for Biden and post-Trump relations with >> Mexico
By Kevin Sieff and Nick Miroff
December 2, 2020 at 8:00 a.m. EST
" ... President-elect Joe Biden could face a difficult test at the border as >> soon as he takes office. He has pledged to revoke the Migration Protection >> Protocols that Trump used to bounce border-crossers back into Mexico, but
Biden has not indicated how he might handle a new influx of tens of
thousands of migrants trying to enter the country. With Central America's
economies hammered by the coronavirus pandemic and several powerful
hurricanes this year, the elements of a new crisis are gathering...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/02/biden-migrant-caravans/
Four months later...
washingtonpost.com
At the border, a widely predicted crisis that caught Biden off guard
By Nick Miroff
April 26, 2021 at 3:04 p.m. EDT
"While there is high support for President Biden's handling of the
coronavirus pandemic and the new president has enjoyed higher approval
ratings than his predecessor, there are widespread worries about his
management of the U.S. southern border, which has been his worst polling
issue.
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has arrived >> at the border in recent weeks, including a record number of teenagers and
children traveling without their parents who need to be sheltered for weeks. >> Last month, 172,331 migrants were taken into custody by U.S. Customs and
Border Protection, the highest total in nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
And there you have it. They were caught and sent back in record
numbers. By a Democrat.
I explained already that if employers will stop giving jobs to
illegals, illegal immigration will stop.
Then Congress should expand and streamline the H2-A program.
Wow. So finally, FINALLY you guys, after covid and in the midst of
the current labor shortage have decided that we DO need a flood of
cheap labor from outside our borders. Took you forty years to figure
it out but, wtf, you know it now.
So, it's now up to you cons to convince your congress critters to
adjust immigration policy to allow a LEGAL cheap labor force to work
here....
... I guess that's a better solution than locking up a few construction contractors, hoteliers and farmers....
... Then again, throwing a few employers in prison for a while might be just enough to wake up the Congress to the need for LEGAL immigration on a MASSIVE scale. That'll keep apples from going to $5 each and keep lettuce and strawberries under $20 a pound.
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are
raising prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been
lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying
about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in
America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
That's because the economy has grown, among other things....
In article <tad56d$15ths$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
Shame you don't know Mexicans born in the USA are american citizens....
... Don't be so eager to test others when you are blatantly stupid.
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
... we're talking about illegal immigration and terror attacks.
You are, no one else.
Shame you don't know Mexicans born in the USA are american citizens....
I know enough to realize that, if they were born in the USA, they were *never*
Mexicans.
Shame you don't know Mexicans born in the USA are american
citizens. Don't be so eager to test others when you are blatantly
stupid.
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! ><x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed
that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to >>> vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!
<x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had
proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in >>>> order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:nkqlch5stgdbq38ftolslmg5u03a26bell@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed: >>
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! >>>> <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in
order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as
it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
In news:nkqlch5stgdbq38ftolslmg5u03a26bell@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! >>> <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in >>>>> order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for
gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:42:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> >>> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
I appreciate your attempt to dodge, but we're not talking about bank
robbery, we're talking about illegal immigration and terror attacks.
In news:hdvgch1rjbnoilk1in79tt9sk5u3hud8b6@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:42:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists
were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they
were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
I appreciate your attempt to dodge, but we're not talking about bank
robbery,...
We were.
... we're talking about illegal immigration and terror attacks.
You are, no one else.
Swill
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined >>>> so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest
of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just
that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
Pot. Kettle. Black. Reagan was the most accomplished liar ever to
occupy the White House. He was an ACTOR BY TRADE. Yet the right
believed him. He signed an amnesty but they still believed he was
tough on immigration. The right credits him with ending the Cold War.
It was the Democrats who did that ...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
... stop it ... you're killing me...
In news:chine.bleu-FD7822.18193609072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tad56d$15ths$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
To some extent. The federal and state departments of education control much of >the funding, and much of that funding comes with strings.
In news:svkechlb2bpti611qasfs7765cj2j3cpuj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:53:38 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration into
depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, you have
your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country has >>>>>> dropped....
Bullshit.
Take an aspirin. I'm about to reference you to some facts and I know
how painful that might be.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017,
there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for
these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who >>>> have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
You should be doing that. I already have.
You failed. Your conclusion that "the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from
outside Mexico who have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and >Europeans" is false.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and Central >America accounted for almost 90% of ***overstays***, and in 2017, there were >more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension ***for these countries.***"
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has arrived >>> at the border in recent weeks, including a record number of teenagers and >>> children traveling without their parents who need to be sheltered for weeks.
Last month, 172,331 migrants were taken into custody by U.S. Customs and >>> Border Protection, the highest total in nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
And there you have it. They were caught and sent back in record
numbers. By a Democrat.
What percentage were sent back? What portion weren't caught?
I explained already that if employers will stop giving jobs to
illegals, illegal immigration will stop.
Then Congress should expand and streamline the H2-A program.
Wow. So finally, FINALLY you guys, after covid and in the midst of
the current labor shortage have decided that we DO need a flood of
cheap labor from outside our borders. Took you forty years to figure
it out but, wtf, you know it now.
The H-2A and H-2B date back to 1986, some 36 years ago.
From WWII until 1964,
there was the bracero program.
It seems agriculture has had this figured for quite a while.
So, it's now up to you cons to convince your congress critters to
adjust immigration policy to allow a LEGAL cheap labor force to work
here....
The dims will need to ignore their labor pals who oppose expanding the labor >pool.
... I guess that's a better solution than locking up a few construction
contractors, hoteliers and farmers....
They don't lock them up, they just fine their pants off, sometimes to the point
that business dies.
... Then again, throwing a few employers in prison for a while might be just
enough to wake up the Congress to the need for LEGAL immigration on a MASSIVE
scale. That'll keep apples from going to $5 each and keep lettuce and
strawberries under $20 a pound.
They won't get *that* high, but they'll be coming from Canada, Chile, South >Africa, or China.
"When you bitch about farmers, don't talk with your mouth full."
... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are >>>>>> raising prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been
lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying >>>> about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in
America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
That's because the economy has grown, among other things....
Has it surpassed where it was in 2019?
"Republicans largely aren’t interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month." >https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I see plenty of hispanics working around here.
Where's here.
Washington.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Ultimately, the responsibility rests with the voters. Politicians
*love* to cut taxes during an election year. Bush (43) was very bad
about that: first, (while waving the flag) he invaded Afghanistan,
then he cut taxes, then he mailed out free money. You really can't
blame Obama when the bottom fell out around '08.
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom" wrote: >><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades. I don't know when
was the last time natural born American citizens lined up for jobs
picking lettuce and making beds.
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:nkqlch5stgdbq38ftolslmg5u03a26bell@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max
headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! >>>> <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in
order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as
it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:05:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-FD7822.18193609072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tad56d$15ths$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
To some extent. The federal and state departments of education control much >> of the funding, and much of that funding comes with strings.
No matter how you slice and dice it, the correct answer to your
question is, "the voters".
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security
and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the
refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't
do enough to ensure border security.
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 16:57:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:svkechlb2bpti611qasfs7765cj2j3cpuj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:53:38 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
... Btw, businesses who've been able to leverage illegal immigration >>>>>>> into depressed wages for decades are getting a wake up call. That is, >>>>>>> you have your wish. The number of illegals in and entering the country >>>>>>> has dropped....
Bullshit.
Take an aspirin. I'm about to reference you to some facts and I know >>>>> how painful that might be.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017,
there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for
these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who >>>>> have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
You should be doing that. I already have.
You quoted it and didn't even read it. The bulk of illegals in this
country ARE OVERSTAYS not border jumpers. Geez, you'd think even a
racist xenophobe might get a fact right once in a while.
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
Have you got it yet?
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has arrived
at the border in recent weeks, including a record number of teenagers and >>>> children traveling without their parents who need to be sheltered for
weeks. Last month, 172,331 migrants were taken into custody by U.S.
Customs and Border Protection, the highest total in nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
And there you have it. They were caught and sent back in record
numbers. By a Democrat.
What percentage were sent back?...
... What portion weren't caught?
While it's hard to know for sure, here are some educated guesses from
various students of immigration.
"The department found that between 55 to 85 percent immigrants
crossing the border illegally were apprehended or interdicted in 2016.
That's an increase from a decade ago, when the rate was between 35 to
70 percent."
and
""It does seem like the majority of people who are crossing the border
now are doing it to turn themselves in (seeking asylum)," he said."
[This means far fewer are crossing undetected - they *want* to get
caught, they're *counting on it*.] https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jan/11/does-border-patrol-catch-90-percent-immigrants-cro/
I explained already that if employers will stop giving jobs to
illegals, illegal immigration will stop.
Then Congress should expand and streamline the H2-A program.
Wow. So finally, FINALLY you guys, after covid and in the midst of
the current labor shortage have decided that we DO need a flood of
cheap labor from outside our borders. Took you forty years to figure
it out but, wtf, you know it now.
The H-2A and H-2B date back to 1986, some 36 years ago.
Oh, yeah, Reagan's amnesty program. Too bad the quotas were set so
low. The numbers need to be increased GREATLY.
From WWII until 1964,
there was the bracero program.
It seems agriculture has had this figured for quite a while.
Apparently it's been *un*figured out now. Btw, there used to be a lot
of Jamaican workers come in to harvest Florida 'cane but now they use automated systems.
So, it's now up to you cons to convince your congress critters to
adjust immigration policy to allow a LEGAL cheap labor force to work
here....
The dims will need to ignore their labor pals who oppose expanding the labor >> pool.
The libs don't matter. They'll be getting their asses kicked this
fall and besides, you know full well that anything that allows more immigrants in is likely to be supported by Democrats. It's
Republicans who'll drag their feet on any attempt to increase the
number of legal immigrants.
... I guess that's a better solution than locking up a few construction >>> contractors, hoteliers and farmers....
They don't lock them up, they just fine their pants off, sometimes to the
point that business dies.
They don't do it enough. Jobs are still being offerred to the
undocumented and they continue to come here. If they were any good at running their business, they wouldn't need to resort to illegals in
the first place so their would be no business killing fines.
... Then again, throwing a few employers in prison for a while might be >>> just enough to wake up the Congress to the need for LEGAL immigration on a >>> MASSIVE scale. That'll keep apples from going to $5 each and keep lettuce >>> and strawberries under $20 a pound.
They won't get *that* high, but they'll be coming from Canada, Chile, South >> Africa, or China.
I know, but those prices aren't the fantasy you think they are.
Illegals work for pay rates that run below minimum wage. You really
think anybody in your neighborhood is going to spend their day
climbing ladders in the hot sun to pick fruit? Or bending over all
day to cut lettuce? All for $7 an hour?
"When you bitch about farmers, don't talk with your mouth full."
Firstly, if you think I'm bitching about farmers, you aren't paying attention. The farmers whether John and Betty or Cargill are doing
what they need to do. My point is they need help from the government
to make what they're doing, LEGAL,
Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgYIABAeEBY6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEIYDSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUOEFWN4LYJQRaAFwAXgAgAFriAGfApIBAzIuMZgBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are >>>>>>> raising prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been >>>>> lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying >>>>> about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in >>>>> America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
That's because the economy has grown, among other things....
Has it surpassed where it was in 2019?
Yes, by about 1.5 trillion. 2019 21.43T: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=us+economy+size+2019
2021 23T: https://www.google.com/search?q=us+economy+size+2021&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALiCzsY4YrlOwQ2soIuZ9Xrgzbr4wp-rhA%3A1657492671346&ei=v1TLYs_hFIPWkvQPvoeQyAE&ved=0ahUKEwiPvZKvse_4AhUDq4QIHb4DBBkQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=us+economy+size+2021&gs_lcp=
Actually, I was mistaken. The labor shortage was on before covid. It
wasn't a "major issue" because the administration was too busy
bragging about economic boom and full employment. And with a current
rate of around 3.6% unemployed, we're officially in full employment territory. No surprise there's a shortage.
I don't think unemployment has ever been this low. https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
Swill
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:nkqlch5stgdbq38ftolslmg5u03a26bell@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed: >>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! >>>> <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in
order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the
naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as
it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous ><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
In news:c3jmchpq5b7dg4fh6sv4p2o0mnm76qt214@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:nkqlch5stgdbq38ftolslmg5u03a26bell@4ax.com, Jones <x@y.com> typed: >>>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:48:35 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:vg2hch5arkrgu14c6hmc1cv9h16gcdlgnk@4ax.com, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! >>>>> <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in
order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the >>>>>> naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under
the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as
it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do you
fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
And when the voters send someone to D.C. to "drain the swamp", the swamp fights
back.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >>><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant?
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
On 7/12/2022 4:40 AM, scooter lied:
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests, which is what the >>>>> naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are unconstitutional. >>>>They're not literacy tests.
They're literacy tests.
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests, which is what the >>>> naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are unconstitutional. >>>They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >>>><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant?
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
Sounds like they're afraid they might not pass those "literacy tests."
In news:uulech1ng48sadcgd8etlcf01kr4f8mgi9@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:37:01 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:52:11 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Siri wrote:
List the convictions. Another wingnut is whining about false
accusations of a coup while you falsely accuse people of the
wrong colour of immigration crimes.
Are you claiming there are no aliens in the country illegally?
I think she's pointing out that not all illegal immigrants are
Mexican.
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
Oh, please . . . *rolleyes* Mexicans have been mentioned so much by
you xenophobes they don't even need to be mentioned anymore to be the
topic of conversation. You guys have bitched so fucking much about
wetbacks for so fucking long that anybody with a brain is going to
assume...
There's your problem.
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test in order to vote,
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, scooter lied:
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests, which is what the >>>>>> naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are unconstitutional. >>>>>They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier
Sounds like they're afraid they might not pass those "literacy tests."
Well, they certainly couldn't pass the citizenship exam we require of those seeking to become US citizens
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 06:42:10 -0700, Matt Singer
<out.of.key@wyebur.con> wrote:
On 7/12/2022 4:40 AM, scooter lied:
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests, which is what >>>>>> the
naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are
unconstitutional.
They're not literacy tests.
They're literacy tests.
They're not, you stupid, ignorant dwarf, and you know this.
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and
Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017, >>>>>> there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for >>>>>> these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who >>>>>> have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
You should be doing that. I already have.
You quoted it and didn't even read it. The bulk of illegals in this
country ARE OVERSTAYS not border jumpers. Geez, you'd think even a
racist xenophobe might get a fact right once in a while.
That's all irrelevant to your claim that "The number of illegals in and entering
the country has dropped."
According to DHS Entry/Exit Overstay Report for FY2020, we had 584,885 Suspected
In-Country Overstays for the fiscal year. In May, 2022, we had 239,416 Southwest
land border encounters... in ONE month.
www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the
reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
Have you got it yet?
Yeah. It's all our fault.
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has arrived
at the border in recent weeks, including a record number of teenagers and >>>>> children traveling without their parents who need to be sheltered for >>>>> weeks. Last month, 172,331 migrants were taken into custody by U.S.
Customs and Border Protection, the highest total in nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
And there you have it. They were caught and sent back in record
numbers. By a Democrat.
What percentage were sent back?...
... What portion weren't caught?
While it's hard to know for sure, here are some educated guesses from
various students of immigration.
"The department found that between 55 to 85 percent immigrants
crossing the border illegally were apprehended or interdicted in 2016.
That's an increase from a decade ago, when the rate was between 35 to
70 percent."
and
""It does seem like the majority of people who are crossing the border
now are doing it to turn themselves in (seeking asylum)," he said."
[This means far fewer are crossing undetected - they *want* to get
caught, they're *counting on it*.]
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jan/11/does-border-patrol-catch-90-percent-immigrants-cro/
This from two months into the Soros administration--
"Nearly 1,000 people per day are sneaking into the United States without being >identified or taken into custody because U.S. border agents are busy attending >to migrant families and unaccompanied children while also trying to stop soaring
numbers of male adults, according to three U.S. Customs and Border Protection >officials familiar with the data...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/got-aways-border/2021/04/01/14258a1e-9302-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html
The libs don't matter. They'll be getting their asses kicked this
fall and besides, you know full well that anything that allows more
immigrants in is likely to be supported by Democrats. It's
Republicans who'll drag their feet on any attempt to increase the
number of legal immigrants.
Maybe because they remember Reagan got backstabbed when he agreed to an amnesty
program *before* the border was secured.
... I guess that's a better solution than locking up a few construction >>>> contractors, hoteliers and farmers....
They don't lock them up, they just fine their pants off, sometimes to the >>> point that business dies.
They don't do it enough. Jobs are still being offerred to the
undocumented and they continue to come here. If they were any good at
running their business, they wouldn't need to resort to illegals in
the first place so their would be no business killing fines.
That sounds eerily like Hillary's response to critics of her healthcare reform >plan in 1994.
I know, but those prices aren't the fantasy you think they are.
Illegals work for pay rates that run below minimum wage. You really
think anybody in your neighborhood is going to spend their day
climbing ladders in the hot sun to pick fruit? Or bending over all
day to cut lettuce? All for $7 an hour?
My last harvest, they spent their days climbing ladders in the October sun >picking fruit. Most made $25-30 an hour.
"When you bitch about farmers, don't talk with your mouth full."
Firstly, if you think I'm bitching about farmers, you aren't paying
attention. The farmers whether John and Betty or Cargill are doing
what they need to do. My point is they need help from the government
to make what they're doing, LEGAL,
We know that.
Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgYIABAeEBY6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEIYDSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUOEFWN4LYJQRaAFwAXgAgAFriAGfApIBAzIuMZgBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are >>>>>>>> raising prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been >>>>>> lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying >>>>>> about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in >>>>>> America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
That's because the economy has grown, among other things....
Has it surpassed where it was in 2019?
Yes, by about 1.5 trillion. 2019 21.43T:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=us+economy+size+2019
2021 23T:
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+economy+size+2021&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALiCzsY4YrlOwQ2soIuZ9Xrgzbr4wp-rhA%3A1657492671346&ei=v1TLYs_hFIPWkvQPvoeQyAE&ved=0ahUKEwiPvZKvse_4AhUDq4QIHb4DBBkQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=us+economy+size+2021&gs_lcp=
Inflation.
Actually, I was mistaken. The labor shortage was on before covid. It
wasn't a "major issue" because the administration was too busy
bragging about economic boom and full employment. And with a current
rate of around 3.6% unemployed, we're officially in full employment
territory. No surprise there's a shortage.
I don't think unemployment has ever been this low.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
Swill
And yet the labor force participation rate is below what it was before covid. >There were 158,866,000 Americans in February, 2020, (the highest ever) compared
to 158,111,000 last month.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >message news:aoqqchpi7dfi72b429sq81sqglkvn08ac3@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>>message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >>>>><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant? >>>
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
Sounds like they're afraid they might not pass those "literacy tests."
Well, they certainly couldn't pass the citizenship exam we require of those >seeking to become US citizens....
I do wonder if Baxter, Rudy and the rest could even pass this test?
https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/civics-practice-test-2008
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >>><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant?
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:05:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
To some extent. The federal and state departments of education control much >>> of the funding, and much of that funding comes with strings.
No matter how you slice and dice it, the correct answer to your
question is, "the voters".
And when the voters send someone to D.C. to "drain the swamp", the swamp fights
back.
And when parents assemble and seek a redress of grievances with their local >school boards, the FBI is called.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 06:42:10 -0700, Matt Singer
<out.of.key@wyebur.con> wrote:
On 7/12/2022 4:40 AM, scooter lied:
kleine klauschen "no-foreskin" Schittenkike lied:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests, which is what the >>>>>> naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are unconstitutional. >>>>>They're not literacy tests.
They're literacy tests.
They're not, you stupid, ignorant dwarf, and you know this.
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said Sen. >John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say, 'Right >this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen. >James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security
and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the
refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't
do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
In news:0enmch52ngo8n9ejekqu2e1ehgalvh14jp@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
In 2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous >>>><webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant?
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:rtqrchh7sd48k0v4p7d3inkjvo7ok9cc2m@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>> message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant? >>>
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
I would consider that, until we look at the numbers.. we are spending now per student (even adjusted for inflation) than ever before in our history.
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/k12_spending-full.png
Ubiquitous <webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
On 7/10/2022 3:03 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" wrote:
Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:Isn't it obvious?
Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! <x@y.com> typed:I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under >>>>> the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test >>>>>>>> in order to voteMy point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the >>>>>>> naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>>>> gun ownership.
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad asRight-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
They're not literacy tests.
... which is what the naturalization test as a requirement to vote *is*, are >> unconstitutional.
How so?
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
I would consider that, until we look at the numbers.. we are spending now
per student (even adjusted for inflation) than ever before in our history.
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/k12_spending-full.png
Sorry, but I don't see how 'funding cuts' can explain a reduction in the >level of education when we are regularly increasing the funding...
On 7/13/2022 3:48 AM, Scout wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote in >>>> message news:9ghpchp2mfp07rt8sr20k4jtspct89vhgp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so ignorant? >>>>
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
I would consider that, until we look at the numbers.. we are spending now per
student (even adjusted for inflation) than ever before in our history.
scooter, of course, has no idea how much is being spent on schools.
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/k12_spending-full.png
This is a bullshit chart with no source for its alleged "data."
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:09 -0700, "max headroom"wrote: >><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:05:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
To some extent. The federal and state departments of education control much
of the funding, and much of that funding comes with strings.
No matter how you slice and dice it, the correct answer to your
question is, "the voters".
And when the voters send someone to D.C. to "drain the swamp", the swamp fights
back.
Except the voters make it a habit of voting incumbents back in. What
few new ones get elected get muddy in the swamp. Ask the voters what
they think about Congress and they think it sucks, 'but my guy is ok
so I voted for him again'. When everybody follows that philosophy,
change can't happen.
And when parents assemble and seek a redress of grievances with their local >>school boards, the FBI is called.
No idea what you're talking about.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:48:28 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
I would consider that, until we look at the numbers.. we are spending now >>per student (even adjusted for inflation) than ever before in our history.
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/k12_spending-full.png
Just because we're spending more doesn't mean we're spending it in the
right places.
Sorry, but I don't see how 'funding cuts' can explain a reduction in the >>level of education when we are regularly increasing the funding...
Then explain why schools fund sports but not civics.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:53:20 -0700, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> wrote:
On 7/13/2022 3:48 AM, Scout wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 07:40:00 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com>
wrote in
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:I6IyK.563797$wIO9.321279@fx12.iad, Ubiquitous
<webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
How come these people are so stupid? Don't they have dictionaries?
I think the fundamental issue is much easier... why are they so
ignorant?
If it willful, or simply a matter of their inability to learn?
It's a matter of funding cuts driving civics classes out of the
schools. I see no reason to fund football but not civics.
I would consider that, until we look at the numbers.. we are spending
now per
student (even adjusted for inflation) than ever before in our history.
scooter, of course, has no idea how much is being spent on schools.
https://www.justfactsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/k12_spending-full.png
This is a bullshit chart with no source for its alleged "data."
Maybe Rudy made it up for him.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:53:20 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:
This is a bullshit chart with no source for its alleged "data."
Maybe Rudy made it up for him.
Well given you're talking to Rudy......
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:48:27 -0700, "max headroom" wrote: >><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said Sen.
John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say, 'Right >>this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen. >>James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Which proves my point. When the Democrats attempt to follow policies
the Republicans have supported in the past, the GOP makes up reasons
to complain.
It was no different in the nineties. Conservative think tank Heritage >developed a universal health coverage system that (like Switzerland's
and Japan's) utilized private health insurance. Mitt Romney got it
passed in Massachusetts. But when Obama tried to get exactly the same
health care model passed in Washington, the GOP flatly refused to
consider it.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security
and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the
refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't
do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
Cite.
Details, what money did Biden ask for? Why was it declined?
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:09 -0700, "max headroom"wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 19:05:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And who controls K-12 education in this country?
School boards and the people who elect them.
To some extent. The federal and state departments of education control much
of the funding, and much of that funding comes with strings.
No matter how you slice and dice it, the correct answer to your
question is, "the voters".
And when the voters send someone to D.C. to "drain the swamp", the swamp
fights back.
Except the voters make it a habit of voting incumbents back in. What
few new ones get elected get muddy in the swamp. Ask the voters what
they think about Congress and they think it sucks, 'but my guy is ok
so I voted for him again'. When everybody follows that philosophy,
change can't happen.
And when parents assemble and seek a redress of grievances with their local >> school boards, the FBI is called.
No idea what you're talking about.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:48:27 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said
Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say, >> 'Right this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen. >> James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Which proves my point. When the Democrats attempt to follow policies
the Republicans have supported in the past, the GOP makes up reasons
to complain.
It was no different in the nineties. Conservative think tank Heritage developed a universal health coverage system that (like Switzerland's
and Japan's) utilized private health insurance. Mitt Romney got it
passed in Massachusetts. But when Obama tried to get exactly the same
health care model passed in Washington, the GOP flatly refused to
consider it.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security
and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the
refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't
do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
Cite.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:49:20 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:0enmch52ngo8n9ejekqu2e1ehgalvh14jp@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
In 2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now.
Cite.
You can't can you? It's just another of those thing bigots "believe"
without evidence.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Ubiquitous <webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
On 7/10/2022 3:03 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>> wrote:
Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test
in order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the >>>>>>>> naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support >>>>>>>> one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under >>>>>> the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
Ftr, it is to me. It's also obvious that Onomatopoeia meant a
naturalization test that included the gun information mentioned.
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as >>>> it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
Yes, they are. In this case a test designed to determine if the voter
is politically literate. (see definition 2c below)
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:40:29 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:hdvgch1rjbnoilk1in79tt9sk5u3hud8b6@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 05:42:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:gcmechps6k67l408imbgg0khuhcrllcp29@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 22:09:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-C4342F.14223606072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <ta4si1$4mo3$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
No one mentioned Mexicans... until now.
White people rob banks. Should every white person be called and
an illegal bank withdrawer?
Non sequitur.
No, it isn't. Bill Mahr once noted that while not all Muslims are
terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims, that enough terrorists >>>>> were Muslim that Muslims now owned all terrorism issues whether they >>>>> were guilty or not.
Black people rob banks. Brown people rob banks. Yellow people rob banks.
I appreciate your attempt to dodge, but we're not talking about bank
robbery,...
We were.
Why did your list of colored bank robbers leave out 'white'?...
... And why is Siri's comment on bank robbers non sequitur while your isn't?
... we're talking about illegal immigration and terror attacks.
You are, no one else.
Swill
The same is true of the xenophobes on the right. You guys have whined >>>>> so much about illegal immigration across the southern border and
lumping them all together as Mexicans whether they were or not that
now you own it.
Every time you open your mouth about illegal immigration for the rest >>>>> of forever, we're all going to know that what you're *really*
complaining about is spics swimming the Rio Grande.
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's >>>> just that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
Pot. Kettle. Black. Reagan was the most accomplished liar ever to
occupy the White House. He was an ACTOR BY TRADE. Yet the right
believed him. He signed an amnesty but they still believed he was
tough on immigration. The right credits him with ending the Cold War.
It was the Democrats who did that ...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
... stop it ... you're killing me...
Yeah, it was, whether you like it or not. The Democrats owned the
Congress when WWII ended and they still owned it when the Cold War
ended. The Presidency was split with 20 years of Democrats and 25 of Republicans.
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:38:54 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/ft_2021-04-13_unauthorizedimmigration_01/4
From this article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/04/13/key-facts-about-the-changing-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/
Which contains facts like the below.
"In recent years, immigrants from countries outside of Mexico and >>>>>>> Central America accounted for almost 90% of overstays, and in 2017, >>>>>>> there were more than 30 overstays for every border apprehension for >>>>>>> these countries."
Iow, the bulk of illegal immigrants are people from outside Mexico who >>>>>>> have overstayed their visas. Iow, Asians, Africans and Europeans.
Read it again, for comprehension this time.
You should be doing that. I already have.
You quoted it and didn't even read it. The bulk of illegals in this
country ARE OVERSTAYS not border jumpers. Geez, you'd think even a
racist xenophobe might get a fact right once in a while.
That's all irrelevant to your claim that "The number of illegals in and
entering the country has dropped."
According to DHS Entry/Exit Overstay Report for FY2020, we had 584,885
Suspected In-Country Overstays for the fiscal year. In May, 2022, we had
239,416 Southwest land border encounters... in ONE month.
www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
I showed you a graph showing a decline in illegals over the past
several years....
... I stipulated that there had been an increase recently
but that doesn't change the facts that illegal entries have and
overstays are trending down...
... and that the majority of illegal entries are not border crossers but overstayers.
If you have a problem with those numbers, complain to Pew and
Washington.
Then there's this:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Has there been a surge in the past couple of months, yes and the >>>>>>> reason for it is unfilled jobs; the current US labor shortage.
Have you got it yet?
Yeah. It's all our fault.
Yes, actually, it is. If our immigration and guest worker policies
more accurately reflected our cheap labor needs, illegal immigration
would diminish....
... Further, if employers were penalized for offering jobs to undocumented workers, illegal immigration would stop.
"As experts had warned for months, a massive influx of migrants has >>>>>> arrived at the border in recent weeks, including a record number of >>>>>> teenagers and children traveling without their parents who need to be >>>>>> sheltered for weeks. Last month, 172,331 migrants were taken into
custody by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the highest total in >>>>>> nearly 20 years...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/biden-border-timeline/2021/04/26/a5550aa4-a2a8-11eb-8a6d-f1b55f463112_story.html
And there you have it. They were caught and sent back in record
numbers. By a Democrat.
What percentage were sent back?...
... What portion weren't caught?
While it's hard to know for sure, here are some educated guesses from
various students of immigration.
"The department found that between 55 to 85 percent immigrants
crossing the border illegally were apprehended or interdicted in 2016.
That's an increase from a decade ago, when the rate was between 35 to
70 percent."
and
""It does seem like the majority of people who are crossing the border
now are doing it to turn themselves in (seeking asylum)," he said."
[This means far fewer are crossing undetected - they *want* to get
caught, they're *counting on it*.]
https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/jan/11/does-border-patrol-catch-90-percent-immigrants-cro/
This from two months into the Soros administration--
"Nearly 1,000 people per day are sneaking into the United States without
being identified or taken into custody because U.S. border agents are busy >> attending to migrant families and unaccompanied children while also trying >> to stop soaring numbers of male adults, according to three U.S. Customs and >> Border Protection officials familiar with the data...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/got-aways-border/2021/04/01/14258a1e-9302-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html
And this number is LESS than it was ten and fifteen years ago.
The libs don't matter. They'll be getting their asses kicked this
fall and besides, you know full well that anything that allows more
immigrants in is likely to be supported by Democrats. It's
Republicans who'll drag their feet on any attempt to increase the
number of legal immigrants.
Maybe because they remember Reagan got backstabbed when he agreed to an
amnesty program *before* the border was secured.
It was Reagen did the backstabbing. He had the Senate and a complaint Democratic House. The Democrats wanted employer penalties, the
Republicans refused.
... I guess that's a better solution than locking up a few construction >>>>> contractors, hoteliers and farmers....
They don't lock them up, they just fine their pants off, sometimes to the >>>> point that business dies.
They don't do it enough. Jobs are still being offerred to the
undocumented and they continue to come here. If they were any good at
running their business, they wouldn't need to resort to illegals in
the first place so their would be no business killing fines.
That sounds eerily like Hillary's response to critics of her healthcare
reform plan in 1994.
She thought healthcare was a problem of small business failures?
I know, but those prices aren't the fantasy you think they are.
Illegals work for pay rates that run below minimum wage. You really
think anybody in your neighborhood is going to spend their day
climbing ladders in the hot sun to pick fruit? Or bending over all
day to cut lettuce? All for $7 an hour?
My last harvest, they spent their days climbing ladders in the October sun >> picking fruit. Most made $25-30 an hour.
"When you bitch about farmers, don't talk with your mouth full."
Firstly, if you think I'm bitching about farmers, you aren't paying
attention. The farmers whether John and Betty or Cargill are doing
what they need to do. My point is they need help from the government
to make what they're doing, LEGAL,
We know that.
No, WE don't. You and I might but there are a lot of xenophobes out
there making this issue more aggravating than it has to be. There
aren't any Republicans making noise out there about increasing
immigration. The last of those voices were stifled by the Tea Party
and Trump.
Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgYIABAeEBY6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEIYDSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUOEFWN4LYJQRaAFwAXgAgAFriAGfApIBAzIuMZgBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz... This is having the effect of driving wages up so businesses are >>>>>>>>> raising prices to pay for it.
It's also speeding up development of automation for unskilled jobs.
Yes it is. In fact, in some industries more jobs in the US have been >>>>>>> lost to automation than to offshore producers. And despite the crying >>>>>>> about job loss to overseas labor, there is STILL a labor shortage in >>>>>>> America.
Yet this "shortage" wasn't an issue before the pandammit.
That's because the economy has grown, among other things....
Has it surpassed where it was in 2019?
Yes, by about 1.5 trillion. 2019 21.43T:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=us+economy+size+2019
2021 23T:
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+economy+size+2021&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALiCzsY4YrlOwQ2soIuZ9Xrgzbr4wp-rhA%3A1657492671346&ei=v1TLYs_hFIPWkvQPvoeQyAE&ved=0ahUKEwiPvZKvse_4AhUDq4QIHb4DBBkQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=us+economy+size+2021&gs_lcp=
Inflation.
Doesn't explain how 6.4 million jobs being added in 2021,...
... well over 2 million year to date or 372,000 jobs added in June alone....
... Not sure that recession is coming yet but labor is a lagging indicator .
Actually, I was mistaken. The labor shortage was on before covid. It
wasn't a "major issue" because the administration was too busy
bragging about economic boom and full employment. And with a current
rate of around 3.6% unemployed, we're officially in full employment
territory. No surprise there's a shortage.
I don't think unemployment has ever been this low.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
Swill
And yet the labor force participation rate is below what it was before covid.
There were 158,866,000 Americans in February, 2020, (the highest ever)
compared to 158,111,000 last month.
That number only counts those receiving unemployment or registered
with a DOL job search....
... I don't know about anybody else, but I've never gotten a job through the DoL. Their listings have been useless to me.
The current jobless rate is the lowest in 50 years and that pisses you
off because a Democrat is in the White House....
Yeah, yeah. Who can forget Teddy Kennedy standing at the Brandenburg Gate and >yelling, "Mistah Gorbachev, teah down this wall"?
In news:2gauchdnu1dctn5keq1dc1ijslga61hu5l@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:47:46 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Ubiquitous <webspermeater@polaris.net> typed:
On 7/10/2022 3:03 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 14:03:47 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom" >>>>> wrote:
Jones <x@y.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! <x@y.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:00:55 -0700, in talk.politics.guns "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
You and "Siri" snip so much that you lose track of the thread. I had >>>>>>>>>> proposed that all citizens be required to pass the naturalization test
in order to vote
My point: Would you accept all citizens being required to pass the >>>>>>>>> naturalization test in order to buy a gun or ammunition? I'll support
one for voting if you'll go on record as supporting the same test for >>>>>>>>> gun ownership.
Does the naturalization test include gun selection and safety?
I haven't taken it. I know it is subject to periodic revision under >>>>>>> the Department of Education. Why do you ask?
Isn't it obvious?
Ftr, it is to me. It's also obvious that Onomatopoeia meant a
naturalization test that included the gun information mentioned.
*I* would have thought it obvious that a poll test was about as bad as >>>>> it gets... apparently, I was wrong.
Right-wingnuts don't know that voting literacy tests,...
They're not literacy tests.
Yes, they are. In this case a test designed to determine if the voter
is politically literate. (see definition 2c below)
Potato, potahto. The naturalization test is administered orally.
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do you
fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
In news:5hrrch5k21p8c7k6js104phlbuqnprcgpd@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:49:20 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:0enmch52ngo8n9ejekqu2e1ehgalvh14jp@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
In 2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now.
Cite.
Above, the first line you quoted.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
You can't can you? It's just another of those thing bigots "believe"
without evidence.
Just my lying eyes.
In news:qjrrchptnhongdt9u4oqheqef6kra2u4vb@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:48:27 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a
plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said >>> Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say, >>> 'Right this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen. >>> James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Which proves my point. When the Democrats attempt to follow policies
the Republicans have supported in the past, the GOP makes up reasons
to complain.
I doubt the Republicans have supported the immigration policies the Soros >administration is pushing.
It was no different in the nineties. Conservative think tank Heritage
developed a universal health coverage system that (like Switzerland's
and Japan's) utilized private health insurance. Mitt Romney got it
passed in Massachusetts. But when Obama tried to get exactly the same
health care model passed in Washington, the GOP flatly refused to
consider it.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security
and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the
refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't
do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
Cite.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"A massive group of hundreds of illegal migrants streamed across the southern >border in Texas on Wednesday - marking one of the largest groups to flood into >the U.S. in recent months, and a dramatic snapshot of the historic crisis facing
officials at the southern border.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/massive-group-hundreds-migrants-streams-southern-border-crisis-intensifies
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:34:43 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Yeah, yeah. Who can forget Teddy Kennedy standing at the Brandenburg Gate and
yelling, "Mistah Gorbachev, teah down this wall"?
Or his brother Jack standing in front of the wall saying in German, "I
am a Berliner."
Congress makes those spending allocations for defense and intel. 45
years of Democratic Congresses and 45 years of mixed Presidencies
worked together to fight the Cold War. It wasn't very pretty but
crediting one President for ending the Cold War is pretty blind.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:22:29 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do >> you fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
No, but I don't hold out much hope for either side of the aisle
scoring all that great across the board.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:08:16 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:qjrrchptnhongdt9u4oqheqef6kra2u4vb@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:48:27 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a >>>>>> plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said >>>> Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say, >>>> 'Right this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen. >>>> James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Which proves my point. When the Democrats attempt to follow policies
the Republicans have supported in the past, the GOP makes up reasons
to complain.
I doubt the Republicans have supported the immigration policies the Soros
administration is pushing.
It was no different in the nineties. Conservative think tank Heritage
developed a universal health coverage system that (like Switzerland's
and Japan's) utilized private health insurance. Mitt Romney got it
passed in Massachusetts. But when Obama tried to get exactly the same
health care model passed in Washington, the GOP flatly refused to
consider it.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security >>>>> and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the >>>>> refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't >>>>> do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
Cite.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany
of excuses for being obstructionist.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:10:34 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:5hrrch5k21p8c7k6js104phlbuqnprcgpd@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:49:20 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:0enmch52ngo8n9ejekqu2e1ehgalvh14jp@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:2u0hchdfsmb09bh0bu3208m36isj01q3nd@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:mmmechpkgfj95o60agib4dbcno8diq64uq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
In 2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now.
Cite.
Above, the first line you quoted.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
That's not a cite. And there's nothing above it but attributes.
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:10:34 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:49:20 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
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governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:51:44 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
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governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 06:32:57 -0700, "oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
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governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:38:36 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
In news:ijdbchhl2e86uvuoqj9m7ss8kf63gifa78@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 21:57:09 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
In news:c6n1chde1a44rhi7uurq1fhmagd218426d@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:47:22 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
Who won't work for those wages anymore.
How do they survive?
Gringos are working other jobs that pay better....
Why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
For the same reasons they're not taking them now, duh!
Sorry, I parsed this out as referring to low wage jobs.
Wait! You just said they *were* taking them! Make up your mind!
Ok, maybe we're missing each other in the dark.
Gringos are taking better paying and more highly skilled jobs....
Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?
They were. They are. They have been for decades....
In 2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now.
Cite.
Above, the first line you quoted.
The unfilled jobs locally were formerly filled by gringos.
That's not a cite. And there's nothing above it but attributes.
I'll type s-l-o-w-l-y for you--
" The unfilled jobs **locally** were formerly filled by gringos.
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:08:16 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
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<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 17:48:27 -0700, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 20:29:43 -0400, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
"Republicans largely aren't interested in additional government
resources to manage any expected increase of migrants on the
U.S.-Mexico border if the Biden administration follows through on a >>>>>>> plan to stop pandemic-era border expulsions next month."
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
"I don't see why they need more money when you have an open border," said >>>>> Sen. John Kennedy, R-La. "I mean, do they need to hire more people to say,
'Right this way; come on in?'"
"No, they don't need more money to be able to implement bad policy," [Sen.
James] Lankford [R-OK] said.
Which proves my point. When the Democrats attempt to follow policies
the Republicans have supported in the past, the GOP makes up reasons
to complain.
I doubt the Republicans have supported the immigration policies the Soros >>> administration is pushing.
It was no different in the nineties. Conservative think tank Heritage >>>> developed a universal health coverage system that (like Switzerland's
and Japan's) utilized private health insurance. Mitt Romney got it
passed in Massachusetts. But when Obama tried to get exactly the same >>>> health care model passed in Washington, the GOP flatly refused to
consider it.
Republicans whine and wail and gnash their teeth over border security >>>>>> and then when a DEMOCRAT asks for more money for border security, the >>>>>> refuse so they can right back to complaining that the Democrats don't >>>>>> do enough to ensure border security.
This had little to do with actual security.
Cite.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany
of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow of
border crossers.
Gorbachev has said that it was Reagan's persistence in pushing his Star Wars defence program that caused the Russians to throw in the towel because they were
nearly bankrupt already and they know they could no longer compete.
Some years back, I was seeing a woman who told me her 13 year old grandson didn't know the Pledge of Allegiance. That's 8th grade!
In news:h0p1dh931tfd7fe1gkoph4a7fqag8j96pc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:34:43 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Yeah, yeah. Who can forget Teddy Kennedy standing at the Brandenburg Gate and
yelling, "Mistah Gorbachev, teah down this wall"?
Or his brother Jack standing in front of the wall saying in German, "I
am a Berliner."
Almost. He said, "Ich bin ein Berliner," which means "I am a jelly doughnut." >But the Germans understood what he was trying to say. The Soviets didn't >because, well, they spoke Russian. It was 24 years later that Reagan made >himself clear.
Congress makes those spending allocations for defense and intel. 45
years of Democratic Congresses and 45 years of mixed Presidencies
worked together to fight the Cold War. It wasn't very pretty but
crediting one President for ending the Cold War is pretty blind.
Gorbachev has said that it was Reagan's persistence in pushing his Star Wars >defence program that caused the Russians to throw in the towel because they were
nearly bankrupt already and they know they could no longer compete.
In news:37p1dh52p6omj98f1qk9fr3va39gtcdiqj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:22:29 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do >>> you fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
No, but I don't hold out much hope for either side of the aisle
scoring all that great across the board.
Wanna know something scary?
Some years back, I was seeing a woman who told me her 13 year old grandson >didn't know the Pledge of Allegiance. That's 8th grade!
It may not be the end of the Republic, but you can see it from here.
I'll type s-l-o-w-l-y for you--
" The unfilled jobs **locally** were formerly filled by gringos.
Got it?
In article <taqv8s$2vqn0$2@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Gorbachev has said that it was Reagan's persistence in pushing his Star Wars >> defence program that caused the Russians to throw in the towel because they >> were
nearly bankrupt already and they know they could no longer compete.
And what did we win? Never ending debt, only useless toys to show
for it. And a Russia we kicked in the face and is making our
lives worse than before.
Do note the UK was on the winning side in 1945 and the victory so
hollowed them out they lost their empire and economy.
A decade
later Germany was resurgent and becoming an economic powerhouse.
There's a phrase for this: pyrrhic victory.
Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one
more such victory would utterly undo him.
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany
of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow of >border crossers.
In news:37p1dh52p6omj98f1qk9fr3va39gtcdiqj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:22:29 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do >>> you fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
No, but I don't hold out much hope for either side of the aisle
scoring all that great across the board.
Wanna know something scary?
Some years back, I was seeing a woman who told me her 13 year old grandson didn't know the Pledge of Allegiance.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany
of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow >> of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
There's more to border security than just shooting wetbacks as they
climb out of the water.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:46:52 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
I'll type s-l-o-w-l-y for you--
" The unfilled jobs **locally** were formerly filled by gringos.
Got it?
That's NOT a c-i-t-e. It's a statement you made.
Now, CITE your claim that, "In 2019, gringos were working these jobs
that are unfilled now."
Or, as I pointed it, it stands as just something else bigots believe.
I'm seeing white males doing un and semiskilled jobs I haven't seen
white men doing in decades.
Requiring the passing of a civics test to vote is unconstitutional. It's a >literacy test.
On 7/14/2022 10:34 PM, max headroom wrote:
In news:37p1dh52p6omj98f1qk9fr3va39gtcdiqj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:22:29 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do
you fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
Requiring the passing of a civics test to vote is unconstitutional....
... It's a literacy test. Your wish to see such a requirement proves you don't know the Constitution...
... and you hate America.
No, but I don't hold out much hope for either side of the aisle
scoring all that great across the board.
Wanna know something scary?
Some years back, I was seeing a woman who told me her 13 year old grandson >> didn't know the Pledge of Allegiance.
Good. Reciting it is stupid....
Requiring the passing of a civics test to vote is unconstitutional....
Yet we require it of aliens who wish citizenship.
... It's a literacy test. Your wish to see such a requirement proves you don't know the Constitution...
Wherein does the Constitution address this?
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as inescapable?
In article <tasi0q$34ufo$2@dont-email.me>,^^^^^
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as
inescapable?
Because I like freedom.
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany
of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow >>> of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending = cutting
government spending.
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >inescapable?
There's more to border security than just shooting wetbacks as they
climb out of the water.
Why?
In news:ck13dhh5gj7ue7qlgmpq6ignnrkf05bs5b@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:46:52 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
I'll type s-l-o-w-l-y for you--
" The unfilled jobs **locally** were formerly filled by gringos.
Got it?
That's NOT a c-i-t-e. It's a statement you made.
Correct.
Now, CITE your claim that, "In 2019, gringos were working these jobs
that are unfilled now."
You realize I was referring to *locally*, right?
Or, as I pointed it, it stands as just something else bigots believe.
It's what my lying eyes tell me.
I'm seeing white males doing un and semiskilled jobs I haven't seen
white men doing in decades.
So their parents kicked them out, eh?
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:11:38 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <tasi0q$34ufo$2@dont-email.me>,^^^^^
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >>> inescapable?
Because I like freedom.
You misspelled "getting raped by illegal aliens."
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:50:39 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:ck13dhh5gj7ue7qlgmpq6ignnrkf05bs5b@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:46:52 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
I'll type s-l-o-w-l-y for you--
" The unfilled jobs **locally** were formerly filled by gringos.
Got it?
That's NOT a c-i-t-e. It's a statement you made.
Correct.
Why do you demand others back up their claims with cites but you
won't?
Now, CITE your claim that, "In 2019, gringos were working these jobs
that are unfilled now."
You realize I was referring to *locally*, right?
You don't even know what your original claim was anymore. Alzheimer's
sux, dunnit?
Adding "locally" to either claim makes no difference. You wrote, "In
2019, gringos were working these jobs that are unfilled now." and
then "Again, why weren't they taking these jobs before the pandammit?"
Both statements can't be true. So which is it, were gringos working
those jobs in 2019 (before Covid) or not?
Or, as I pointed it, it stands as just something else bigots believe.
It's what my lying eyes tell me.
Iow, it's a belief based on your individual perceptions...
... with no facts to back it up....
... Worse, you don't even know what you believe.
I'm seeing white males doing un and semiskilled jobs I haven't seen
white men doing in decades.
So their parents kicked them out, eh?
Make jokes if you helps you sleep tonight.
Bottom line, you were wrong as always, forgot what you wrote in the
first place and unlike the tough guy you pretend to be, you can't back
up what you say and you're too much the coward to admit when you're
wrong.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow
of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending =
cutting government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as
inescapable?
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
In news:9k64dhdpd5dr7nltjude9pndhsmbd7i5nj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the flow
of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending =
cutting government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
It seems I knew *exactly* what I was talking about
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >>> inescapable?
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
But the topic here.
Let me try to make this even more obvious for you--
"In 2019, gringos were working these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."
"Again, why weren't they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the >pandammit?"
This was in response to your claim that those who lost their jobs (due to the >governor shutting the state down) had found better paying jobs in other >businesses.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:53:45 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Let me try to make this even more obvious for you--
"In 2019, gringos were working these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."
"Again, why weren't they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the >> pandammit?"
This was in response to your claim that those who lost their jobs (due to the
governor shutting the state down) had found better paying jobs in other
businesses.
Like I said, Alzheimer's sux dunnit?
I never made such a claim. I didn't reference pre covid employment levels or states being shut down....
... That was a topic you tried to jump to. I referenced the current labor shortage and rising wages and you responded, "In 2019, gringos were working these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."...
... I pointed out that they weren't, someone else noted the labor shortage started before the pandemic and you switched gears to ask, "Again, why weren't
they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the pandammit?"
You've now claimed that gringos were working the jobs currently not filled in 2019 ...
...and that they *weren't* working those jobs in 2019.
The problem here is that you just want to argue with somebody and
aren't even paying attention to what you're saying anymore.
Short story? Fuck off.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 21:04:55 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:9k64dhdpd5dr7nltjude9pndhsmbd7i5nj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the >>>>>> flow of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers >>>>> is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending = >>>> cutting government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
It seems I knew *exactly* what I was talking about
Hardly. You just described a fact, that not increasing spending
equals a spending cut, as a "pinkie malady".
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >>>> inescapable?
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
There's some of that creative editing you accuse others of. Here's
the paragraph you cut rather than respond to.
"Border crossers are the least of the problem. More significant are
the overstayers which topic has been covered before. More illegals
and getting into the country legally on visas and then overstaying
them than are getting into the country by illegally crossing a border."
But the topic here.
. . . is?
What? Are you losing it?
In article <tb20tq$3t0ed$5@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Except when the president is a republican.
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
There's some of that creative editing you accuse others of. Here's
the paragraph you cut rather than respond to.
"Border crossers are the least of the problem. More significant are
the overstayers which topic has been covered before. More illegals
and getting into the country legally on visas and then overstaying
them than are getting into the country by illegally crossing a border."
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
What? Are you losing it?
That would be you.
In news:88a5dhplcho6647v9c3b3es5lst7r3j1en@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:53:45 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Let me try to make this even more obvious for you--
"In 2019, gringos were working these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."
"Again, why weren't they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the
pandammit?"
This was in response to your claim that those who lost their jobs (due to the
governor shutting the state down) had found better paying jobs in other
businesses.
Like I said, Alzheimer's sux dunnit?
I never made such a claim. I didn't reference pre covid employment levels or
states being shut down....
No, I did.
In response to your whine that your bathroom wasn't being repaired
due to a lack of a "bunch of Mexicans working for low cash wages,"
I replied, "I
see plenty of hispanics working around here. The unfilled jobs locally were >formerly filled by gringos."
... That was a topic you tried to jump to. I referenced the current labor >> shortage and rising wages and you responded, "In 2019, gringos were working >> these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."...
Correct.
... I pointed out that they weren't, someone else noted the labor shortage >> started before the pandemic and you switched gears to ask, "Again, why weren't
they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the pandammit?"
You've now claimed that gringos were working the jobs currently not filled in
2019 ...
That's been my statement all along. To be more precise, I said that gringos were
working these jobs in 2019 that are currently unfilled.
...and that they *weren't* working those jobs in 2019.
No, that was your misunderstanding of me questioning your assertion that these >better-paying jobs you to which allude were available in 2019.
The problem here is that you just want to argue with somebody and
aren't even paying attention to what you're saying anymore.
Pot, kettle.
Short story? Fuck off.
I acknowledge your incompetence.
In article <tb20tq$3t0ed$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Except when the president is a republican.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:56:03 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
There's some of that creative editing you accuse others of. Here's
the paragraph you cut rather than respond to.
"Border crossers are the least of the problem. More significant are
the overstayers which topic has been covered before. More illegals
and getting into the country legally on visas and then overstaying
them than are getting into the country by illegally crossing a border."
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Um, no. The topic here is Republicans cutting border spending...
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
Then there's the irony of Republicans complaining about spending in
the first place.
What? Are you losing it?
That would be you.
"But the topic here." isn't even a complete sentence.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:00:24 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:88a5dhplcho6647v9c3b3es5lst7r3j1en@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:53:45 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Let me try to make this even more obvious for you--
"In 2019, gringos were working these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."
"Again, why weren't they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before >>>> the pandammit?"
This was in response to your claim that those who lost their jobs (due to >>>> the governor shutting the state down) had found better paying jobs in other
businesses.
Like I said, Alzheimer's sux dunnit?
I never made such a claim. I didn't reference pre covid employment levels >>> or states being shut down....
No, I did.
But just above you accused ME of making that claimed.
In response to your whine that your bathroom wasn't being repaired
due to a lack of a "bunch of Mexicans working for low cash wages,"
I never said that either....
... So, you put words in my mouth then claim them as yours and in either case
you get it wrong. You say one thing, then it's opposite, then try to say I said it, then admit YOU said it . . .
I replied, "I see plenty of hispanics working around here. The unfilled jobs >> locally were formerly filled by gringos."
And a post later you asked why Gringos weren't taking the jobs you
just said they were taking before.
... That was a topic you tried to jump to. I referenced the current labor >>> shortage and rising wages and you responded, "In 2019, gringos were working >>> these [local] jobs that are unfilled now."...
Correct.
And then you asked, "Why weren't they taking these better jobs before
the pandammit."
... I pointed out that they weren't, someone else noted the labor shortage >>> started before the pandemic and you switched gears to ask, "Again, why
weren't they taking these [other, better paying] jobs before the pandammit?"
You've now claimed that gringos were working the jobs currently not filled >>> in 2019 ...
That's been my statement all along. To be more precise, I said that gringos >> were working these jobs in 2019 that are currently unfilled.
But you also said, "Again, why weren't they taking these [other,
better paying] jobs before the pandammit?"
You see that word "again"? That means you were doubling down on
something previously said....
... You've said a thing, then it's opposite, then repeated the opposite.
...and that they *weren't* working those jobs in 2019.
No, that was your misunderstanding of me questioning your assertion that
these better-paying jobs you to which allude were available in 2019.
I'm not misunderstanding, " why weren't they taking these [other,
better paying] jobs before the pandammit?" It seems quite clear,
especially the second time.
You said gringos were working those jobs before the pandemic then you
said they weren't.
The absurd part of it is that those "better paying" jobs didn't
actually exist before the pandemic.
The problem here is that you just want to argue with somebody and
aren't even paying attention to what you're saying anymore.
Pot, kettle.
Short story? Fuck off.
I acknowledge your incompetence.
I'm not the one blathering like an idiot.
In news:chine.bleu-10EF48.16443117072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tb20tq$3t0ed$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Except when the president is a republican.
Feel free to provide supporting evidence.
In news:4e89dhdjcdesr906snik00j3hkhhv58r4i@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:56:03 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
There's some of that creative editing you accuse others of. Here's
the paragraph you cut rather than respond to.
"Border crossers are the least of the problem. More significant are
the overstayers which topic has been covered before. More illegals
and getting into the country legally on visas and then overstaying
them than are getting into the country by illegally crossing a border."
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Um, no. The topic here is Republicans cutting border spending...
Wrong. Refusing to give you a raise is NOT cutting your wages.
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to build a >wall.
Then there's the irony of Republicans complaining about spending in
the first place.
The only time Democrats complain about government spending is when it's for the
DOD.
What? Are you losing it?
That would be you.
"But the topic here." isn't even a complete sentence.
So? It was a counterpoint.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com, >>governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the >>>> flow
of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending = >>cutting
government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
In article <tasi0q$34ufo$2@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as
inescapable?
Because I like freedom.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 08:24:25 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:53:20 -0700, Ubiquitous wrote:
This is a bullshit chart with no source for its alleged "data."
Maybe Rudy made it up for him.
Well given you're talking to Rudy......
*sigh* Ubiquitous is Rudy too? How many nyms does that shitstain
HAVE??
In news:9k64dhdpd5dr7nltjude9pndhsmbd7i5nj@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the >>>>> flow
of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending =
cutting government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
It seems I knew *exactly* what I was talking about
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >>> inescapable?
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
But the topic here.
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:9k64dhdpd5dr7nltjude9pndhsmbd7i5nj@4ax.com...
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:36:50 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:g723dhhvrele84fvt66spiqkmrnqkolifl@4ax.com, >>>governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:42:32 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
https://rollcall.com/2022/04/27/senate-republicans-balk-on-funds-related-to-bidens-border-move/
Your gonna have to explain this to me because all I read is a litany >>>>>> of excuses for being obstructionist.
According to RollCall, there was little in the bill about stopping the >>>>> flow
of border crossers.
So . . . the best way to handle an increased flow of border crossers
is to . . . cut border security spending?
<sigh>
There's that pinkie malady-- refusing to increase government spending = >>>cutting
government spending.
You don't even know what you're talking about. Inflation is present.
A failure to increase spending IS a spending CUT.
Good.. if we refuse to increase spending maybe we might eventually get a >balanced budget, then a budget surplus we can use to pay down our massive >debt.
We're currently the 12th most indebted nation in the world with our debt >being 128% of our GDP and the growth of that debt is accelerating.
Given state and federal debt the governments of this nation are about $32 >Trillion dollars in debt or over $100,000 per citizen.
That's $100,000 for you, another $100,000 for your wife, and another
$100,000 for each of your children....
Do you have that kind of money?
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
"Siri Cruise" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:chine.bleu-7C0527.14113815072022@news.eternal-september.org...
In article <tasi0q$34ufo$2@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Why do pinkies blithely accept "an increased flow of border crossers" as >>> inescapable?
Because I like freedom.
Most criminals do....
They love to have the freedom to commit their crimes without interference.
I would have to question that illegal border crossings are the least of the >problem, given illegal border crossings supply the bulk of the drug trade
and all of the fentanyl, which drives all sorts of violent crime within the >US.... Nevermind lost jobs, lower wages, lost revenue and the bleed of US >wealth to other nations by those working illegals.
Indeed, I suspect if he looked at his list of crimes that he claims do >matter.. many are significantly linked to our refusal to address illegal >border crossings.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:31:59 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-10EF48.16443117072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tb20tq$3t0ed$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Except when the president is a republican.
Feel free to provide supporting evidence.
Of a joke? "Max Headroom" Proof enough.
"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true." Isn't that the
modern Republican mantra? How many times do others have to prove you
guys wrong before you stop demanding proof of your mistakes?
"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true." Isn't that the
modern Republican mantra? How many times do others have to prove you
guys wrong before you stop demanding proof of your mistakes?
In article <tb527c$pt21$2@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true." Isn't that the
modern Republican mantra? How many times do others have to prove you
guys wrong before you stop demanding proof of your mistakes?
Fuck you. You were already presented with the facts. And you
immediately rejected them as 'off topic'. It's insulting when you
assume everyone is as stupid as you.
In news:tpsadh9gq8mjagfjn0mt33jmcoljr4fa4g@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:31:59 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-10EF48.16443117072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tb20tq$3t0ed$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Except when the president is a republican.
Feel free to provide supporting evidence.
Of a joke? "Max Headroom" Proof enough.
"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true." Isn't that the
modern Republican mantra?
How many times do others have to prove you
guys wrong before you stop demanding proof of your mistakes?
Why a mouse if it spins?
In article <tb527c$pt21$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
"I don't know it for a fact, I just know it's true." Isn't that the
modern Republican mantra? How many times do others have to prove you
guys wrong before you stop demanding proof of your mistakes?
Fuck you. You were already presented with the facts. And you
immediately rejected them as 'off topic'. It's insulting when you
assume everyone is as stupid as you.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:51:08 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:4e89dhdjcdesr906snik00j3hkhhv58r4i@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:56:03 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
Border crossers are the least of the problem....
There's some of that creative editing you accuse others of. Here's
the paragraph you cut rather than respond to.
"Border crossers are the least of the problem. More significant are >>>>> the overstayers which topic has been covered before. More illegals
and getting into the country legally on visas and then overstaying
them than are getting into the country by illegally crossing a border."
But the topic here.
. . . is?
A trailer full of dead illegal aliens, obviously.
Um, no. The topic here is Republicans cutting border spending...
Wrong. Refusing to give you a raise is NOT cutting your wages.
Gummint budgets operate from a baseline. Take last year's spending,
factor in inflation and expected increased use of a program and that
is the baseline.
If a budget includes spending of less than baseline but the same or
more as last year's spending, you'll get two stories from Washington.
One party will complain about spending cuts because spending dropped
below baseline, while the other will deny cuts were made based solely
on real dollar allocation.
Put another way. Assuming your boss doesn't change your wages, isn't inflation going to result in you cutting spending?
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to build >> a wall.
The point isn't my interest in border security but to point out the
HYPOCRISY of complaining about border security and then refusing to
increase spending to the department in charge of border security.
Then there's the irony of Republicans complaining about spending in
the first place.
The only time Democrats complain about government spending is when it's for >> the DOD.
Not the only time. They also complain about spending when the GOPs
don't find a way to pay for it other than simply borrowing more money....
... Hypocritically, it's usually rightists complaining about foreign
nations holding our debt, but those same rightists support a party
that has made a habit of jacking up spending and cutting taxes which
has the result of jacking up the debt.
What? Are you losing it?
That would be you.
"But the topic here." isn't even a complete sentence.
So? It was a counterpoint.
It wasn't anything but the inane babblings of somebody who's lost an argument.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 19:36:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:rn89dh5m9oa3kkjg91j7hkmvg0snkrpnoh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:00:24 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:88a5dhplcho6647v9c3b3es5lst7r3j1en@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
The problem here is that you just want to argue with somebody and
aren't even paying attention to what you're saying anymore.
Pot, kettle.
Short story? Fuck off.
I acknowledge your incompetence.
I'm not the one blathering like an idiot.
Au contraire.
I'm really growing tired of your continual ignorance, lies, deceits
and misdirections.
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
In news:c2tadhp5lfmp9a8otcepuddktvs4tfbluq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:51:08 -0700, "max headroom"
Gummint budgets operate from a baseline. Take last year's spending,
factor in inflation and expected increased use of a program and that
is the baseline.
If a budget includes spending of less than baseline but the same or
more as last year's spending, you'll get two stories from Washington.
One party will complain about spending cuts because spending dropped
below baseline, while the other will deny cuts were made based solely
on real dollar allocation.
Put another way. Assuming your boss doesn't change your wages, isn't
inflation going to result in you cutting spending?
NO. I'll be getting less for my money, but I'll probably be spending it anyway.
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to build
a wall.
The point isn't my interest in border security but to point out the
HYPOCRISY of complaining about border security and then refusing to
increase spending to the department in charge of border security.
From your source--
Not the only time. They also complain about spending when the GOPs
don't find a way to pay for it other than simply borrowing more money....
As opposed to the Democrats' desire for additional spending and paying for it by
raising taxes.
... Hypocritically, it's usually rightists complaining about foreign
nations holding our debt, but those same rightists support a party
that has made a habit of jacking up spending and cutting taxes which
has the result of jacking up the debt.
Democrats never talk abouit cutting taxes.
It wasn't anything but the inane babblings of somebody who's lost an
argument.
It was the counterpoint to your attempt to divert.
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
And you're still an idiot.
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
In article <tbejnr$382lj$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
And all the parks remained open and all that.
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 23:34:26 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c2tadhp5lfmp9a8otcepuddktvs4tfbluq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:51:08 -0700, "max headroom"
Gummint budgets operate from a baseline. Take last year's spending,
factor in inflation and expected increased use of a program and that
is the baseline.
If a budget includes spending of less than baseline but the same or
more as last year's spending, you'll get two stories from Washington.
One party will complain about spending cuts because spending dropped
below baseline, while the other will deny cuts were made based solely
on real dollar allocation.
Put another way. Assuming your boss doesn't change your wages, isn't
inflation going to result in you cutting spending?
NO. I'll be getting less for my money, but I'll probably be spending it
anyway.
So, you're going to insist on being willfully ignorant once again?
If prices are going up, you're going to buy less. Period....
... That's an income cut because your income doesn't buy as much.
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government doesn't work that way. Taxpayers expect services....
... Whether it's a delayed aircraft carrier, admittance restrictions at national parks, closing FBI investigations early or not providing medication for a Social Security recipient.
Government operates on COLA's because taxpayers demand it.
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to >>>> build a wall.
The point isn't my interest in border security but to point out the
HYPOCRISY of complaining about border security and then refusing to
increase spending to the department in charge of border security.
From your source--
Sources, sources. Denial isn't a river in Egypt. You have to accept
the facts of life because depending on lies will burn you every time.
In article <tbg3rl$3mr24$5@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
But I won't be cutting my spending, which was your assertion.
You have to amend the laws and change what agencies are required
to do. Instead Congress demands the same operations for less
money. So we got like years to get a visa to harvest crops next
week so hire eager workers without a visa. And you whinging when
your favourite national park closes.
But I won't be cutting my spending, which was your assertion.
In article <tbg3rk$3mr24$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Except Trump.
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
In news:chine.bleu-AB77B1.06344623072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbg3rk$3mr24$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Except Trump.
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
In news:i37ldhhndg8mjdg88ni974p09sl1llf101@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 23:34:26 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c2tadhp5lfmp9a8otcepuddktvs4tfbluq@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:51:08 -0700, "max headroom"
Gummint budgets operate from a baseline. Take last year's spending,
factor in inflation and expected increased use of a program and that
is the baseline.
If a budget includes spending of less than baseline but the same or
more as last year's spending, you'll get two stories from Washington.
One party will complain about spending cuts because spending dropped
below baseline, while the other will deny cuts were made based solely
on real dollar allocation.
Put another way. Assuming your boss doesn't change your wages, isn't
inflation going to result in you cutting spending?
NO. I'll be getting less for my money, but I'll probably be spending it
anyway.
So, you're going to insist on being willfully ignorant once again?
Just following your lead.
If prices are going up, you're going to buy less. Period....
But I won't be cutting my spending, which was your assertion.
... That's an income cut because your income doesn't buy as much.
It's a reduction in my disposable income, not my taxable income.
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government doesn't work that way. Taxpayers expect services....
Not ALL taxpayers. Remember the TEA Party? Some are still in Congress.
... Whether it's a delayed aircraft carrier, admittance restrictions at
national parks, closing FBI investigations early or not providing medication >> for a Social Security recipient.
Government operates on COLA's because taxpayers demand it.
Again, not ALL taxpayers. But thanks for the lesson in pinkie economics.
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to >>>>> build a wall.
The point isn't my interest in border security but to point out the
HYPOCRISY of complaining about border security and then refusing to
increase spending to the department in charge of border security.
From your source--
"Republicans are rankled in particular by the idea of spending money to address
the fallout from an administration decision they oppose in the first place - >even as they criticize the government's current preparedness.
"The Biden administration is preparing to stop using the public health directive
known as Title 42 to expel asylum-seeking migrants at the border. Government >officials say daily migrant encounters after the rescission of Title 42 could >reach 18,000, nearly three times current levels...."
Sources, sources. Denial isn't a river in Egypt. You have to accept
the facts of life because depending on lies will burn you every time.
Lies such as spending Border Patrol funds for diapers and daycare and flying >illegal aliens all over the country qualifies as 'border security'?
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:16:24 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i37ldhhndg8mjdg88ni974p09sl1llf101@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 23:34:26 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:c2tadhp5lfmp9a8otcepuddktvs4tfbluq@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:51:08 -0700, "max headroom"
Gummint budgets operate from a baseline. Take last year's spending, >>>>> factor in inflation and expected increased use of a program and that >>>>> is the baseline.
If a budget includes spending of less than baseline but the same or
more as last year's spending, you'll get two stories from Washington. >>>>> One party will complain about spending cuts because spending dropped >>>>> below baseline, while the other will deny cuts were made based solely >>>>> on real dollar allocation.
Put another way. Assuming your boss doesn't change your wages, isn't >>>>> inflation going to result in you cutting spending?
NO. I'll be getting less for my money, but I'll probably be spending it >>>> anyway.
So, you're going to insist on being willfully ignorant once again?
Just following your lead.
If prices are going up, you're going to buy less. Period....
But I won't be cutting my spending, which was your assertion.
That was not my assertion. You'll be buying less, not spending more.
... That's an income cut because your income doesn't buy as much.
It's a reduction in my disposable income, not my taxable income.
It's not either. It's a reduction in your buying power.
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government doesn't work that way. Taxpayers expect services....
Not ALL taxpayers. Remember the TEA Party? Some are still in Congress.
So what? Are you saying that tea party districts refuse to accept
federal money?
... Whether it's a delayed aircraft carrier, admittance restrictions at >>> national parks, closing FBI investigations early or not providing medication
for a Social Security recipient.
Government operates on COLA's because taxpayers demand it.
Again, not ALL taxpayers. But thanks for the lesson in pinkie economics.
Still lying, I see....
... You need some lessons in real economics.
... while complaining there isn't enough border spending.
I bet you weren't singing this song when Trump was asking for money to >>>>>> build a wall.
The point isn't my interest in border security but to point out the
HYPOCRISY of complaining about border security and then refusing to
increase spending to the department in charge of border security.
From your source--
"Republicans are rankled in particular by the idea of spending money to
address the fallout from an administration decision they oppose in the first >> place - even as they criticize the government's current preparedness.
"The Biden administration is preparing to stop using the public health
directive known as Title 42 to expel asylum-seeking migrants at the border. >> Government officials say daily migrant encounters after the rescission of
Title 42 could reach 18,000, nearly three times current levels...."
Sources, sources. Denial isn't a river in Egypt. You have to accept
the facts of life because depending on lies will burn you every time.
Lies such as spending Border Patrol funds for diapers and daycare and flying >> illegal aliens all over the country qualifies as 'border security'?
Since covid is no longer a high risk, more money will be needed to
process asylum seekers. Yes, this is part of border security.
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 06:57:04 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AB77B1.06344623072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbg3rk$3mr24$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Except Trump.
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/trump-budget-2019/
2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/us/politics/trump-budget.html
2021 https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trumps-2021-budget-would-cut-16-trillion-from-low-income-programs
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>> Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
In article <tbijuv$ddrg$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough,
the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his
eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
Which is why you blame Biden.
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
In news:chine.bleu-8A5694.22415423072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbijuv$ddrg$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough, >>>>>>>> the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his >>>>>> eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
Which is why you blame Biden.
Non sequitur.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 05:55:02 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-8A5694.22415423072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri
Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbijuv$ddrg$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>>>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough, >>>>>>>>> the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his >>>>>>> eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
Which is why you blame Biden.
Non sequitur.
Hardly. You've whined for years about the deficits and budgetary
failings of Democratic Presidents....
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:00:54 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
Actually, Trump's plan was to hire illegals and then not pay them.
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:00:54 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
Good luck hiring.
In news:m3ftdhhtd42pbks2161kun0imo9m5f4pi2@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 05:55:02 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-8A5694.22415423072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbijuv$ddrg$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>>>>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough, >>>>>>>>>> the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his >>>>>>>> eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
Which is why you blame Biden.
Non sequitur.
Hardly. You've whined for years about the deficits and budgetary
failings of Democratic Presidents....
Please be more specific. Which presidents have I blamed for government spending?
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
In news:b50udhh65hh61v90l0ikde3iuihs4fuseu@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:00:54 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
Actually, Trump's plan was to hire illegals and then not pay them.
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:57:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
The topic isn't the House "honoring" the President's proposals. The
topic is you being mistaken that President's don't write budgets and
trying desperately to wriggle out of that error instead of growing a
pair of balls and acknowledging you misspoke or were otherwise
mistaken.
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/trump-budget-2019/
2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/us/politics/trump-budget.html
2021 https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trumps-2021-budget-would-cut-16-trillion-from-low-income-programs
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:04:31 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:b50udhh65hh61v90l0ikde3iuihs4fuseu@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:00:54 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Trump had a better and cheaper plan. It was called "remain in Mexico."
Actually, Trump's plan was to hire illegals and then not pay them.
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their
money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
Swill
--
Democrats make me feel ashamed of being American.
Republicans make me feel ashamed of being human.
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:00:30 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:m3ftdhhtd42pbks2161kun0imo9m5f4pi2@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 05:55:02 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-8A5694.22415423072022@news.eternal-september.org, Siri >>>> Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbijuv$ddrg$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:i6oodhpb57aolk52f9okfo7rfd1ajfm7eh@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 23:12:46 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:3u5mdhp79gggujtst0tvldvhpof5efp0gc@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 05:55:27 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:chine.bleu-AFC95A.04120522072022@news.eternal-september.org, >>>>>>>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> typed:
In article <tbdgrl$2ul40$6@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" >>>>>>>>>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
I'm not *entitled* to COLAs, so why should government agencies be?
Government agencies exists to do a job. Don't give them enough, >>>>>>>>>>> the job isn't done.
We had Obama's sequester in 2013 and the world didn't end.
No, it didn't and Obama cut the deficit by almost two thirds in his >>>>>>>>> eight years.
Presidents don't write budgets.
Lie.
Truth.
Which is why you blame Biden.
Non sequitur.
Hardly. You've whined for years about the deficits and budgetary
failings of Democratic Presidents....
Please be more specific. Which presidents have I blamed for government
spending?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *laughs and points*
Like anybody's going to fall for that. hehe
Swill
--
Democrats make me feel ashamed of being American.
Republicans make me feel ashamed of being human.
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their
money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
In news:glnudhdrmte7j6okft66s9ft1k60244qi7@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:57:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
The topic isn't the House "honoring" the President's proposals. The
topic is you being mistaken that President's don't write budgets and
trying desperately to wriggle out of that error instead of growing a
pair of balls and acknowledging you misspoke or were otherwise
mistaken.
Let's review, shall we?
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
"The President released the full version of his first budget yesterday, laying >out his *proposals* for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018 and the following decade...."
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 20:48:19 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:glnudhdrmte7j6okft66s9ft1k60244qi7@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:57:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
The topic isn't the House "honoring" the President's proposals. The
topic is you being mistaken that President's don't write budgets and
trying desperately to wriggle out of that error instead of growing a
pair of balls and acknowledging you misspoke or were otherwise
mistaken.
Btw, the President's budget was accepted by Congress once they'd
batted it back and forth a bit and made the changes they wanted.
Let's review, shall we?
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
"The President released the full version of his first budget yesterday,
laying out his *proposals* for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018 and the following
decade...."
Has it not occurred to you that before a budget can be proposed it has
to be WRITTEN DOWN?...
... Or did you think he just went before the House
and SPOKE his entire budget? Explain how THIS https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/budget/2018 has NOT been
written. And notice please the President's name on the sections.
Go waste somebody else's time with your deliberate, willful ignorance.
Swill
--
Democrats make me feel ashamed of being American.
Republicans make me feel ashamed of being human.
In news:v6s0eh1jrp0hcfoktnv1rteja7stkqplek@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com ><governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 20:48:19 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:glnudhdrmte7j6okft66s9ft1k60244qi7@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:57:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
The topic isn't the House "honoring" the President's proposals. The
topic is you being mistaken that President's don't write budgets and
trying desperately to wriggle out of that error instead of growing a
pair of balls and acknowledging you misspoke or were otherwise
mistaken.
Btw, the President's budget was accepted by Congress once they'd
batted it back and forth a bit and made the changes they wanted.
So it wasn't the President's budget anymore, correct?
Let's review, shall we?
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
"The President released the full version of his first budget yesterday,
laying out his *proposals* for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018 and the following
decade...."
Has it not occurred to you that before a budget can be proposed it has
to be WRITTEN DOWN?...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahaha... haha... hahaha...
That's lame, even for you! What did you call it, "The wriggle of desperation."?
... Or did you think he just went before the House
and SPOKE his entire budget? Explain how THIS
https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/budget/2018 has NOT been
written. And notice please the President's name on the sections.
Oh, looky there-- a link to the budget that Trump *proposed*.
Go waste somebody else's time with your deliberate, willful ignorance.
I love seeing pinkies shamble away sullenly.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 17:55:13 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:v6s0eh1jrp0hcfoktnv1rteja7stkqplek@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com >> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 20:48:19 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:glnudhdrmte7j6okft66s9ft1k60244qi7@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:57:17 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:uuetdhluj4flloek51inbdep3in0h38o7p@4ax.com,
governor.swill@gmail.com <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:02:35 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes budgets.
The wriggle of desperation.
Show us your wriggle--
Yet in practice, the budget process usually STARTS with the
President's "proposal". Lol!
LOL indeed! Did Pelosi honor Trump's budget proposals?
The topic isn't the House "honoring" the President's proposals. The >>>>> topic is you being mistaken that President's don't write budgets and >>>>> trying desperately to wriggle out of that error instead of growing a >>>>> pair of balls and acknowledging you misspoke or were otherwise
mistaken.
Btw, the President's budget was accepted by Congress once they'd
batted it back and forth a bit and made the changes they wanted.
So it wasn't the President's budget anymore, correct?
Let's review, shall we?
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Which year(s) did Trump write budgets?
2018
https://www.crfb.org/papers/president-trumps-full-fy-2018-budget
"The President released the full version of his first budget yesterday, >>>> laying out his *proposals* for Fiscal Year (FY) 2018 and the following >>>> decade...."
Has it not occurred to you that before a budget can be proposed it has
to be WRITTEN DOWN?...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahaha... haha... hahaha...
Apparently not.
That's lame, even for you! What did you call it, "The wriggle of
desperation."?
I wrote about the President writing a budget. You claimed President's[sic] don't write budgets. You were wrong and you're still trying to
pretend you were right. Believing a lie doesn't make it true.
True or false-- Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes >budgets.
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 18:09:04 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
True or false-- Presidents may propose budgets, but it's Congress that writes
budgets.
Still bullshitting? Still trying to move the goal posts?...
... Still trying to get me to believe budgets aren't written down until both houses pass them?
You're an especially stupid fuck today.
In article <tbnonu$1nne6$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their
money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
You saluting sunrise with a Tequila Sunrise?
In article <tbnonu$1nne6$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their
money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
In article <tcc49u$1nv9o$4@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In article <tbnonu$1nne6$2@dont-email.me>, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their >>>>> money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
You saluting sunrise with a Tequila Sunrise?
You always show when you're gobstopped by your own stupoidity.
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their >>>>> money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
************** There's the signpost just ahead ******************
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
You saluting sunrise with a Tequila Sunrise?
You always show when you're gobstopped by your own stupoidity.
Happy Hour already?
Why are you screwing up the attributes? Because they were the only things left
to screw up?
In article <tccafp$1pit3$1@dont-email.me>,
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their >> >>>>> money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
************** There's the signpost just ahead ******************
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
You saluting sunrise with a Tequila Sunrise?
You always show when you're gobstopped by your own stupoidity.
Happy Hour already?
Why are you screwing up the attributes? Because they were the only things
left
to screw up?
I love to make you whine.
In article <tccafp$1pit3$1@dont-email.me>, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
And that kept illegal aliens out of the country?
No, it didn't but it did get them some lawyers to sue Trump for their >>>>>>> money and he paid his illegals thereafter.
So it's totally irrelevant to border security or lack thereof.
************** There's the signpost just ahead ******************
******************* The Twilight Zone ******************
Why, yes, you do celebrate hypocrisy.
You saluting sunrise with a Tequila Sunrise?
You always show when you're gobstopped by your own stupoidity.
Happy Hour already?
Why are you screwing up the attributes? Because they were the only things
left
to screw up?
I love to make you whine.
In news:dsgAK.109459$ze2.32797@fx36.iad, Rudy Canoza <notgenx33@gmail.com> typed:
On 7/14/2022 10:34 PM, oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
In news:37p1dh52p6omj98f1qk9fr3va39gtcdiqj@4ax.com, governor.swill@gmail.com
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:22:29 -0700,oozing scarlet red maxipad attempted - and *failed* - to bullshit:
I have no fear of conservatives taking a civics test to qualify to vote. Do
you fear liberals' odds of passing the same test?
Requiring the passing of a civics test to vote is unconstitutional....
Yet we require it of aliens who wish citizenship.
... It's a literacy test. Your wish to see such a requirement proves you
don't know the Constitution...
Wherein [sic] does the Constitution address this?
... and you hate America.
Hardly.
No, but I don't hold out much hope for either side of the aisle
scoring all that great across the board.
Wanna know something scary?
Some years back, I was seeing a woman who told me her 13 year old grandson >>> didn't know the Pledge of Allegiance.
Good. Reciting it is stupid....
So is your opinion.
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