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Self-righteous Californians have collected enough signatures to get
Proposition 60 on the November ballot, which will require porn actors
to always use condoms, which will effectively drive the porn industry
out of California and to other states or countries that have no such
laws.

As a gay man, a fan of porn (straight porn, oddly enough), and a
former resident of the porn capitals of California and Nevada,
I have to say that this is a stoopid idea.

Advocates of Prop. 60 say it is essential to control the HIV
epidemic. I grew up during the worst of the epidemic during the
1980s and 1990s, and the fact is that the porn industry, at least
after PCR testing that can detect HIV within several days
after infection, has one of the lowest rates of HIV transmission
in the general population.

Porn has suffered a few HIV outbreaks, but if your intention is
to control the transmission of HIV, there are other targets that
are much more responsible for the numbers. Gay bars and bath
houses. Period. And you can't accuse me of "homophobia" because
I am homosexual, and what I say (because I am still alive) is the
truth.

More cases of HIV are transmitted in a few gay bars in New York,
San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas on a typical weekend
night than have been transmitted in the entire porn industry in
the last 20 years.

Condoms are a total turnoff in porn. Porn is a fantasy. Condoms
are not a fantasy. Might as well wrap all the actors in Saran
Wrap and douse them in Clorox. PCR, plus a few day's quarantine,
is all that is needed. Advocates of Prop. 60 are nothing but
religious fanatics, combined with perhaps a dozen anal-
retentive homosexuals. Legal porn is safer than any other
industry. Take this idea to its logical extreme, and we will
soon ban scheisse videos, which seem to be more popular these
days than bareback hetero porn, and feces can also transmit
nasty viruses.

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On 10/31/2016 7:54 PM, Dänk 42Ø wrote:

Self-righteous Californians have collected enough signatures to get Proposition 60 on the November ballot, which will require porn actors
to always use condoms, which will effectively drive the porn industry
out of California and to other states or countries that have no such
laws.

As a gay man, a fan of porn (straight porn, oddly enough), and a
former resident of the porn capitals of California and Nevada,
I have to say that this is a stoopid idea.

Advocates of Prop. 60 say it is essential to control the HIV
epidemic. I grew up during the worst of the epidemic during the
1980s and 1990s, and the fact is that the porn industry, at least
after PCR testing that can detect HIV within several days
after infection, has one of the lowest rates of HIV transmission
in the general population.

Porn has suffered a few HIV outbreaks, but if your intention is
to control the transmission of HIV, there are other targets that
are much more responsible for the numbers. Gay bars and bath
houses. Period. And you can't accuse me of "homophobia" because
I am homosexual, and what I say (because I am still alive) is the
truth.

More cases of HIV are transmitted in a few gay bars in New York,
San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas on a typical weekend
night than have been transmitted in the entire porn industry in
the last 20 years.

Condoms are a total turnoff in porn. Porn is a fantasy. Condoms
are not a fantasy. Might as well wrap all the actors in Saran
Wrap and douse them in Clorox. PCR, plus a few day's quarantine,
is all that is needed. Advocates of Prop. 60 are nothing but
religious fanatics, combined with perhaps a dozen anal-
retentive homosexuals. Legal porn is safer than any other
industry. Take this idea to its logical extreme, and we will
soon ban scheisse videos, which seem to be more popular these
days than bareback hetero porn, and feces can also transmit
nasty viruses.

This is a strange ballot issue until it sinks in that the intent of the proposition is to drive the porn industry out of state.

When LA passed the condom ordinance, the porn industry left and went
elsewhere in the state. Thus the idea was born to have a statewide requirement.

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"Wayne" wrote in message news:nva7tn$7kv$1@dont-email.me...

This is a strange ballot issue until it sinks in that the intent of the proposition is to drive the porn industry out of state.

When LA passed the condom ordinance, the porn industry left and went elsewhere in the state.

It'll probably move to Florida or NYC...

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On 11/01/2016 02:13 PM, Wayne wrote:

This is a strange ballot issue until it sinks in that the intent of the proposition is to drive the porn industry out of state.

When LA passed the condom ordinance, the porn industry left and went elsewhere in the state. Thus the idea was born to have a statewide requirement.

Right, and it will drive the industry out of state and have absolutely
no effect on California's HIV rate and damage one of its major economic sectors. We'll just get more of that crappy Russian porn with its ugly
and anemically pale actors.

Digressing slightly, I remember when I was a kid porn was something
exiting. As Madonna once said, part of the fun of seeing it was the
taboo, that it was hidden away. She said she felt, that as a child,
that it was not really damaging to see it, it was the excitement of
doing what adults said you were not supposed to do. Now it's so
commonplace it's really become kind of boring, which is why Playboy
got rid of the nude models that made it so scandalously famous back
in the Leave it to Beaver days of the 1950s. "I only read it for the
articles!"


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"We can't go any further without starting over. It's like
what sexual positions are left, what other violence can
you show, what other drugs can you do, what other thing
can you get pierced? It's all been done. Sickly enough,
maybe we can all be excited by the taboos once again."

-- Marilyn Manson

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