• Who are the worst drivers?

    From Hactar@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Mon Feb 29 14:36:41 2016
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    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3bmfv6.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:07:28 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 2/25/2016 2:03 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:

    A law firm asked 1,000 Brits what kind of driver was most likely to cause an
    accident. The results:

    1. Boy racers ƒ 48.20%
    2. White van men ƒ 43.40%
    3. The elderly ƒ 36.90%
    4. Delivery van drivers ƒ 28.20%
    5. School run mums ƒ 26.70%
    6. Motorcyclists ƒ 16.80%
    7. Sports car drivers ƒ 16.10%
    8. HGV drivers ƒ 10.40%
    9. Bus drivers ƒ 8.90%
    10. Tractor drivers ƒ 7.40%
    11. Women in general ƒ 5.80%
    12. Men in general ƒ 3.70%


    I agree with 1, 3, 4, and 5. I'd add most male pickup drivers (the big
    4x4 versions). I find these to be arrogant bullies and total *ssholes.
    They use the size of their vehicles to "push" others out of their way. >They'll tailgate. They bob and weave in and out of traffic. They're just >general nuisances. Arrrrrrggggghhhhhh.

    And I will argue that #5 combined with big ass pick-ups are by far the
    worst.

    These teensy women get these huge pick-ups and *think* they know how to drive. Jaime does. The rest, no.

    I'm actually starting to miss SUVs.

    We just bought a Mazda CX-7 (aww, our first car). The title says "CUV"
    (as in "crossover"), but it looks SUVish to me.

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 29 23:02:34 2016
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    Hactar presented the following explanation :
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3bmfv6.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:07:28 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 2/25/2016 2:03 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:

    A law firm asked 1,000 Brits what kind of driver was most likely to cause >>>> an accident. The results:

    1. Boy racers ƒ 48.20%
    2. White van men ƒ 43.40%
    3. The elderly ƒ 36.90%
    4. Delivery van drivers ƒ 28.20%
    5. School run mums ƒ 26.70%
    6. Motorcyclists ƒ 16.80%
    7. Sports car drivers ƒ 16.10%
    8. HGV drivers ƒ 10.40%
    9. Bus drivers ƒ 8.90%
    10. Tractor drivers ƒ 7.40%
    11. Women in general ƒ 5.80%
    12. Men in general ƒ 3.70%


    I agree with 1, 3, 4, and 5. I'd add most male pickup drivers (the big
    4x4 versions). I find these to be arrogant bullies and total *ssholes.
    They use the size of their vehicles to "push" others out of their way.
    They'll tailgate. They bob and weave in and out of traffic. They're just >>> general nuisances. Arrrrrrggggghhhhhh.

    And I will argue that #5 combined with big ass pick-ups are by far the
    worst.

    These teensy women get these huge pick-ups and *think* they know how to
    drive. Jaime does. The rest, no.

    I'm actually starting to miss SUVs.

    We just bought a Mazda CX-7 (aww, our first car). The title says "CUV"
    (as in "crossover"), but it looks SUVish to me.

    Feed it some steroids, and the S will show up.

    /dps

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Tue Mar 1 18:00:03 2016
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    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at all. >Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they are >designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and
    don't do ditches at all.

    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine
    get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the >operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as
    he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are
    combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will
    happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Hactar on Tue Mar 1 18:26:28 2016
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    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:00:03 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at all.
    Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and
    don't do ditches at all.

    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine
    get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as
    he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are >combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will >happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.

    Into the foot deep ditch?

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Tue Mar 1 19:10:35 2016
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    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:00:03 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - have >>>> a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at all. >>>> Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they are >>>> designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and
    don't do ditches at all.

    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine
    get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the >>>> operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are
    combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will
    happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.

    Into the foot deep ditch?


    The Scion is toast.

    John Mc.

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Hactar on Tue Mar 1 19:10:34 2016
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    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at all. >>> Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and
    don't do ditches at all.

    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine
    get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as
    he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what have
    you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my
    tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just look
    at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    John Mc.

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Tue Mar 1 19:39:40 2016
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    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dvs4r.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:00:03 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the >> >operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as
    he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are >combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will >happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.

    Into the foot deep ditch?

    No, not unless you want to stay there. You can go onto the grass with no problem, but not anywhere with high ground curvature like that.

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 1 23:58:58 2016
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    On Tuesday, John Mc. queried:
    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - have >>>> a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at all. >>>> Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they are >>>> designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and
    don't do ditches at all.

    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine
    get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If the >>>> operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are
    combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will
    happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my
    tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    /dps

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Snidely on Thu Mar 3 19:26:42 2016
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    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    On Tuesday, John Mc. queried:
    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such -
    have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at
    all.
    Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they
    are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and >>>>> don't do ditches at all.
    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine >>>>> get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If
    the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are
    combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will
    happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have
    you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my
    tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just
    look
    at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway"
    groups.
    They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    /dps


    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most
    cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and
    ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested
    in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    John Mc.

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Snidely on Fri Mar 4 04:03:03 2016
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    On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 22:28:13 -0800, Snidely wrote:

    On Thursday, John Mc. exclaimed wildly:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    On Tuesday, John Mc. queried:
    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - >>>>>>> have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at >>>>>>> all.
    Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they >>>>>>> are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and >>>>>>> don't do ditches at all.
    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine >>>>>>> get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If >>>>>>> the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>>>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are >>>>> combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will >>>>> happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have
    you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my >>>> tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just >>>> look
    at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway"
    groups.
    They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    /dps


    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most
    cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ ditch
    along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've seen bottles >> and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and ditch. Tires for >> the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested in buying another or >> changing one out on some county road.

    Back up, not back up into the ditch.

    Back up to fucking where? Two miles from where I just came from? In
    reverse? You obviously do *not* know what we're talking about. It's all fields and ditches and not houses or driveways or pullover spots. All
    right, occasionally there's a pullover spot. But more than a few miles
    apart. Sometimes there are cows in the road. Where do you want me to go?

    Don't even get me started about you driving through the "Alps". My standard school bus didn't even have any issues.


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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Fri Mar 4 12:40:06 2016
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    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me
    for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass,
    just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a
    highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested
    in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or driveway.

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 3 22:28:13 2016
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    On Thursday, John Mc. exclaimed wildly:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    On Tuesday, John Mc. queried:
    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions

    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - >>>>>> have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at >>>>>> all.
    Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they >>>>>> are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and >>>>>> don't do ditches at all.
    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine >>>>>> get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a
    heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If >>>>>> the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed
    field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are
    combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will >>>> happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have
    you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my
    tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just
    look
    at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway"
    groups.
    They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    /dps


    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Back up, not back up into the ditch.

    And when you take that trip through the Alps? It's not the tour bus or
    the lorry that backs up, either.

    /dps

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Hactar on Sun Mar 6 02:29:53 2016
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    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote: >> On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me
    for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass,
    just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a
    highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most
    cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and
    ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested
    in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or >driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 4 23:13:47 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    Lesmond noted that:
    On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 22:28:13 -0800, Snidely wrote:

    On Thursday, John Mc. exclaimed wildly:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    On Tuesday, John Mc. queried:
    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3dpduq.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 08:04:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Simons wrote:
    Somebody hosed the attributions
    HE can pull into the ditch.

    I know! He's the one with the vehicle designed for it.

    NOT TRUE! Farm machines - especially the tall combines and such - >>>>>>>> have
    a high center of gravity and don't handle cross-slopes very well at >>>>>>>> all.
    Sure, they go "off-road" and across soft soil pretty well, but they >>>>>>>> are
    designed to stay on flat fields. They don't do slopes very well and >>>>>>>> don't do ditches at all.
    If the operator lets both wheel sets on the right side of the machine >>>>>>>> get into the ditch, the machine will flop over on its side in a >>>>>>>> heartbeat.

    So when you meet a combine or other large ag. machine, be nice. If >>>>>>>> the
    operator pulls over up the the edge of the ditch - he's gone as far as >>>>>>>> he can go.

    And my Scion is built for field driving?

    No. Not enough ground clearance to go either direction in a plowed >>>>>> field. Howwever, cars are much stabler in transverse slopes than are >>>>>> combines, so if you pull onto the grass/dirt, odds are nothing bad will >>>>>> happen as long as you go relatively straight and keep moving.


    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>> have
    you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me for my >>>>> tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, just >>>>> look
    at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a highway"
    groups.
    They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    /dps


    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've seen >>> bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and ditch. >>> Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested in buying >>> another or changing one out on some county road.

    Back up, not back up into the ditch.

    Back up to fucking where? Two miles from where I just came from? In reverse? You obviously do *not* know what we're talking about. It's all fields and ditches and not houses or driveways or pullover spots. All
    right, occasionally there's a pullover spot. But more than a few miles apart. Sometimes there are cows in the road. Where do you want me to go?

    You think the combine is going to back up? The driver probably is
    brother to the deputy, too.


    Don't even get me started about you driving through the "Alps". My standard school bus didn't even have any issues.

    /dps

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Sun Mar 6 08:55:48 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>> have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me >>>>> for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, >>>>> just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a >>>>> highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and >>> ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested
    in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or
    driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    John Mc.

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Sun Mar 6 11:45:40 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>> have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me >>>>> for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, >>>>> just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a >>>>> highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ >>> ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and >>> ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested >>> in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or
    driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

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  • From Howard@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Sun Mar 6 19:42:11 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    "John Mc." <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote

    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.

    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull
    a U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving,
    then you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a
    cross-street or driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when
    he's coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I
    meet one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle
    taking up 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    I was under the impression that farm equipment is built for a fair
    amount of ability to deal with crummy ground -- fields often aren't
    level, they have some major muddy patches, and all that. I can
    understand why they would drive overlapping into the lane of oncoming
    traffic, but as long as there's no guard rail or major dropoff, they
    ought to be OK slowing making some space for oncoming traffic.

    But I'm also sure they're not going to be in a hurry to make any
    maneuvers, and experience has probably taught them that they're safer if
    they wait until oncoming traffic has slowed to a crawl before they try
    moving over toward the shoulder.

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  • From Tim Wright@21:1/5 to Hactar on Sun Mar 6 12:23:25 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>>>> have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me >>>>>>> for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, >>>>>>> just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a >>>>>>> highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>>>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ >>>>> ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've >>>>> seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and >>>>> ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested >>>>> in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or >>>> driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's >>> coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    --
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    but I repeat myself.
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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to tlwright6x@gmail.com on Sun Mar 6 14:22:33 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet >> one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.

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  • From Howard@21:1/5 to Hactar on Sun Mar 6 21:29:05 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also
    tried driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a stickshift is a bitch.

    How did you manage the one handed bit? Steer with your elbow or knees?

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to howrd223@htmail.com on Sun Mar 6 17:24:15 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <XnsA5C3A7C0E5785howdtdhstyo@46.165.242.75>,
    Howard <howrd223@htmail.com> wrote:
    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also
    tried driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a stickshift is a bitch.

    How did you manage the one handed bit? Steer with your elbow or knees?

    "Don't shift when going around a corner." Made stop signs at a turn problematic, but not impossible, just not perfect.

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Hactar on Sun Mar 6 20:16:27 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards
    lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what
    have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me
    for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass,
    just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a
    highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most
    cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/
    ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and
    ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested
    in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or driveway.


    Oh I don't want to pass him. I just resist the notion that I've got to put
    my vehicle basically in a ditch because Mr. Gree jeans has a farm vehicle that's nearly the width of the entire road.

    John Mc.

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 6 22:06:22 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    John Mc. was thinking very hard :
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com>
    wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>>> have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me >>>>>> for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, >>>>>> just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a >>>>>> highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ >>>> ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've
    seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and >>>> ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested >>>> in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or
    driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's >> coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Big Boat has the right of way.

    /dps

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    went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
    precious heavy water.
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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Hactar on Mon Mar 7 08:58:27 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet >>>> one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up >>>> 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I
    also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want
    to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you
    leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive
    the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of
    the road.
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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Snidely on Mon Mar 7 02:13:02 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 22:06:22 -0800, Snidely wrote:

    John Mc. was thinking very hard :
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:40:06 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <nbakid$m8i$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> >>>> wrote:
    On 3/2/2016 2:58 AM, Snidely wrote:
    Somebody wrote:

    It's NOT the ditch that's the main problem. It's the unknown hazards >>>>>>> lurking in the grass. Be these beer bottles, pieces of metal or what >>>>>>> have you. I seriously doubt Mr. Green-jeans is going to reimburse me >>>>>>> for my tires. And if you doubt me about debris hidden in the grass, >>>>>>> just look at the multitude of bags collected by the various "adopt a >>>>>>> highway" groups. They're not all full of soda cans.

    You've got a perfectly good reverse gear.

    True but where do you suggest I back up to? It's a country road, in most >>>>> cases there is almost no shoulder and I've no idea what's in the grass/ >>>>> ditch along side the road. That's my problem with the scenario. I've >>>>> seen bottles and pieces of metal and all sort of debris in the grass and >>>>> ditch. Tires for the Tundra are over $1000 for the set. Not interested >>>>> in buying another or changing one out on some county road.

    Well, if you can't pass and your turning circle is too wide to pull a
    U-ie in the road and the grass is too treacherous for driving, then
    you're kinda stuck behind the guy until you can find a cross-street or >>>> driveway.

    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's >>> coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time and
    usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet one head
    on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up 3/4 of the
    road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Big Boat has the right of way.

    We are not on water.

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Mon Mar 7 10:13:36 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet >>>>> one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up >>>>> 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried
    driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I
    also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want
    to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive
    the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of
    the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick
    him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually pretty cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they understand what assholes everyone is being.


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    Queen of the fucking universe.

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Tue Mar 8 12:53:53 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3qb4rw.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:16:45 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    On 3/8/2016 9:45 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:35:34 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    My oldest ran into a parked car the day after he got his license. His >>> brother took an entire week longer.

    One of the neighbor girls did that her first week. Unfortunately for her, >> there were witnesses.

    Whether or not there were witnesses shouldn't enter into it.

    Does make it harder to drive away and pretend nothing happened, and that
    you have no earthly idea how the front fender got messed up; why, someone
    must have backed into me and skedaddled, without leaving so much as an
    "oops" note, the lout.

    Of course not. But she thought it was a telephone pole.

    That's what she _said_ anyhow. Kids never lie^Wstretch the truth to save
    their asses. Source: I was once a kid. Hard to believe, but it's true.

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    "On two occasions I have been asked, -- 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
    into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?'
    ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to S. Checker on Tue Mar 8 12:55:35 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <ea73rc-uet.ln1@porter.pffcu.org>,
    S. Checker <spam.sc@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/7/2016 12:19 PM, Les Albert wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, "John Mc." <john@thetdcogre.com>
    wrote:

    ...
    1111111111111n m
    ['




    2+/8
    . cccccccccccccccccccc/ m n
    5hg 5jnh CG
    b nbbbn b sdxz
    44444444444444444444444444444444chnhnhy4sdx vthnv '=]
    |




    I would guess it was Archie the cockroach, except he couldn't do
    capital letters.

    Les

    I've got no idea here folks.
    Didn't look like that when I typed it.

    I just assumed that you had to make a sudden stop at a red light while
    you were typing and the contents of your blender spilled over your
    laptop.

    I figured it was caterference.

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP ebmanda.redirectme.net:81
    When we've nuked the world to a cinder, the cockroaches picking
    over the remains will be crawling over the remaining artifacts

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Hactar on Tue Mar 8 15:12:27 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:53 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3qb4rw.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:16:45 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    On 3/8/2016 9:45 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:35:34 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    My oldest ran into a parked car the day after he got his license. His >> >>> brother took an entire week longer.

    One of the neighbor girls did that her first week. Unfortunately for her,
    there were witnesses.

    Whether or not there were witnesses shouldn't enter into it.

    Does make it harder to drive away and pretend nothing happened, and that
    you have no earthly idea how the front fender got messed up; why, someone >must have backed into me and skedaddled, without leaving so much as an
    "oops" note, the lout.

    Of course not. But she thought it was a telephone pole.

    That's what she _said_ anyhow. Kids never lie^Wstretch the truth to save >their asses. Source: I was once a kid. Hard to believe, but it's true.

    Yeah, that's why we kept ribbing her about it. I was also once a kid. Too often I still am.

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to lalbert1@aol.com on Tue Mar 8 15:55:22 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <4f6udb9mrgl4fmp90mg74cbgqdlu98rto4@4ax.com>,
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:53 -0500, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3qb4rw.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:16:45 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    On 3/8/2016 9:45 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:35:34 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    My oldest ran into a parked car the day after he got his license. His >> >>> brother took an entire week longer.

    One of the neighbor girls did that her first week. Unfortunately for her,
    there were witnesses.

    Whether or not there were witnesses shouldn't enter into it.

    Does make it harder to drive away and pretend nothing happened, and that >you have no earthly idea how the front fender got messed up; why, someone >must have backed into me and skedaddled, without leaving so much as an >"oops" note, the lout.

    Of course not. But she thought it was a telephone pole.

    That's what she _said_ anyhow. Kids never lie^Wstretch the truth to save >their asses. Source: I was once a kid. Hard to believe, but it's true.

    At what age did you stop being a kid?

    I'm like the Ship of Theseus. Not that I'm becoming a cyborg or the
    recipient of multiple transplants, but that I'm less kid-like over time.

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP ebmanda.redirectme.net:81
    Unix is user-friendly; it's just picky
    about who it makes friends with.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to John@tdcogre.com on Tue Mar 8 21:40:52 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <1362162988.479154739.595122.John-tdcogre.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
    John Mc. <John@tdcogre.com> wrote:
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:29:07 -0500, John Mc. <John@tdcogre.com> wrote:
    S. Checker <spam.sc@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:

    I've got no idea here folks.
    Didn't look like that when I typed it.

    I just assumed that you had to make a sudden stop at a red light while >>> you were typing and the contents of your blender spilled over your
    laptop.

    God no. To me, people who text while driving should be drawn and quartered.
    And that's probably too easy on them. I've a similar take on cell phone
    usage while driving. The Tundra has hands free Bluetooth for the cellphone
    but unless it's a quick: "Pick up eggs and milk" call I'll pull over to
    take the call. SWMBO is frequently peeved when I do this but I don't trust >> myself to not become distracted. Usually when I'm driving and the car in >> front is going significantly under the speed limit or not moving after a >> light change my first take as to why is: "This idiot's on his cell". And >> I'm usually right.

    I have noticed the "under the speed limit" tell of cell phone
    user-drivers. Also, when they suddenly start wandering out of their
    lane at a slower speed on a high speed road, it's always because of
    using the cell phone. If I'm behind them I fire a burst of my
    imaginary fender mounted machine guns http://tinyurl.com/gn4bmna

    I've actually looked into programmable car horns

    <http://www.boomblasters.com/big-bubba-programmable-car-horn-p-476.html>

    I'm leaning toward the Scarecrow's song from The Wizard of Oz.

    Which is completely unrelated to the theme song from "Scarecrow and Mrs.
    King".

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    There's a term for those who fantasize that the world works in
    precisely the way that produces maximum convenience for them,
    despite years of evidence to the contrary. The term is "Morons".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Hactar on Wed Mar 9 03:09:16 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 21:40:52 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <1362162988.479154739.595122.John-tdcogre.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
    John Mc. <John@tdcogre.com> wrote:
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:29:07 -0500, John Mc. <John@tdcogre.com> wrote:
    S. Checker <spam.sc@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Mc. <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:

    I've got no idea here folks.
    Didn't look like that when I typed it.

    I just assumed that you had to make a sudden stop at a red light while >> >>> you were typing and the contents of your blender spilled over your
    laptop.

    God no. To me, people who text while driving should be drawn and quartered.
    And that's probably too easy on them. I've a similar take on cell phone >> >> usage while driving. The Tundra has hands free Bluetooth for the cellphone
    but unless it's a quick: "Pick up eggs and milk" call I'll pull over to >> >> take the call. SWMBO is frequently peeved when I do this but I don't trust
    myself to not become distracted. Usually when I'm driving and the car in >> >> front is going significantly under the speed limit or not moving after a >> >> light change my first take as to why is: "This idiot's on his cell". And >> >> I'm usually right.

    I have noticed the "under the speed limit" tell of cell phone
    user-drivers. Also, when they suddenly start wandering out of their
    lane at a slower speed on a high speed road, it's always because of
    using the cell phone. If I'm behind them I fire a burst of my
    imaginary fender mounted machine guns http://tinyurl.com/gn4bmna

    I've actually looked into programmable car horns

    <http://www.boomblasters.com/big-bubba-programmable-car-horn-p-476.html>

    I'm leaning toward the Scarecrow's song from The Wizard of Oz.

    Which is completely unrelated to the theme song from "Scarecrow and Mrs. >King".

    Have another drink.

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to lalbert1@aol.com on Tue Mar 8 21:36:55 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <ngoudb9b6crhqmpa4q4e9rtv553bumski8@4ax.com>,
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:55:22 -0500, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <4f6udb9mrgl4fmp90mg74cbgqdlu98rto4@4ax.com>,
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:53 -0500, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3qb4rw.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:16:45 -0600, Tim Wright wrote:

    On 3/8/2016 9:45 AM, Lesmond wrote:

    One of the neighbor girls did that her first week.
    Unfortunately for her, there were witnesses.

    Whether or not there were witnesses shouldn't enter into it.

    Does make it harder to drive away and pretend nothing happened, and that >> >you have no earthly idea how the front fender got messed up; why, someone >> >must have backed into me and skedaddled, without leaving so much as an
    "oops" note, the lout.

    Of course not. But she thought it was a telephone pole.

    That's what she _said_ anyhow. Kids never lie^Wstretch the truth to save >> >their asses. Source: I was once a kid. Hard to believe, but it's true.

    At what age did you stop being a kid?

    I'm like the Ship of Theseus. Not that I'm becoming a cyborg or the >recipient of multiple transplants, but that I'm less kid-like over time.

    So, you still stretch the truth but less so?

    Not at all.*

    * A bit.

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    There's a term for those who fantasize that the world works in
    precisely the way that produces maximum convenience for them,
    despite years of evidence to the contrary. The term is "Morons".

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Wed Mar 9 21:05:07 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet >>>>>> one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up >>>>>> 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I
    also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want
    to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you
    leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive
    the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of
    the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick
    him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits from 30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually pretty cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped
    up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping
    of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    John Mc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Thu Mar 10 19:05:12 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up >>>>>>> 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive
    the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of
    the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick
    him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits from >> 30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually pretty >> cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they
    understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped
    up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping
    of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the >Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Thu Mar 10 21:15:23 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up >>>>>>>> 3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >>>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>>>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >>>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >>>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >>>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive >>>> the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >>>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick >>> him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits from >>> 30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually pretty >>> cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they
    understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped
    up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping
    of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the
    Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.


    We've got our pith helmets and pick axes ready

    John Mc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Fri Mar 11 02:45:39 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 21:15:23 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >>>>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>>>>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >>>>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I >>>>> leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55 >>>>> all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >>>>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >>>>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive >>>>> the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >>>>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick >>>> him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually pretty
    cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they >>>> understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped >>> up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping >>> of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the
    Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.


    We've got our pith helmets and pick axes ready

    My mom used to just take us to rubble heaps to look for calcinite and franklinite or anything that glowed under a blacklight.

    Helmets? why?

    Or just send us out into the driveway with the rock hammers. We found
    things we thought were fossils. For sure the trilobytes were.


    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Fri Mar 11 12:16:09 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> >wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to >>> follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading >>> the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the >>highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP ebmanda.redirectme.net:81
    SCORPIO: Get ready for an unexpected trip when you fall screaming
    from an open window. Work a little harder on improving your low self

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Hactar on Fri Mar 11 13:18:29 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:16:09 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to
    follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading >> >>> the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the
    highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    That's how she puts her mascara on.

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

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  • From Tim Wright@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Fri Mar 11 13:11:23 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/11/2016 12:18 PM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:16:09 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to
    follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading >>>>>> the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the
    highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    That's how she puts her mascara on.

    Reminds me of driving to work one morning. This idiot almost swerved
    into me. Startled me so badly I dropped my electric razor into my coffee.

    --
    Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress;
    but I repeat myself.
    - Mark Twain

    Tim W

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Tim Wright on Fri Mar 11 15:31:53 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/11/2016 12:18 PM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:16:09 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to
    follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading
    the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the >>>>>> highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    That's how she puts her mascara on.

    Reminds me of driving to work one morning. This idiot almost swerved
    into me. Startled me so badly I dropped my electric razor into my coffee.


    I frequently see drivers with a cup of coffee in one hand, a burger in the other, trying to light a cigarette while basically driving with their
    knees. SCARY

    John Mc.

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to John Mc. on Sat Mar 12 01:08:07 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:31:53 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/11/2016 12:18 PM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:16:09 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to
    follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading
    the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the >>>>>>> highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    That's how she puts her mascara on.

    Reminds me of driving to work one morning. This idiot almost swerved
    into me. Startled me so badly I dropped my electric razor into my coffee. >>

    I frequently see drivers with a cup of coffee in one hand, a burger in the >other, trying to light a cigarette while basically driving with their
    knees. SCARY

    I do not believe you. No one sane smokes and eats at the same time. It
    ruins both experiences.

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Sat Mar 12 10:14:19 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/12/2016 1:08 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:31:53 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/11/2016 12:18 PM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:16:09 -0500, Hactar wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3vmsm4.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    Lesmond <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0800, Bill Turlock wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 10:27:53 -0600, Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:


    No, but I do have a picture, taken at a stoplight, of a fellow I'd had to
    follow for some distance at way less than highway speeds. He was reading
    the f*cking newspaper while he drove.

    John Mc.

    Years ago someone had posted a picture of a woman driving down the >>>>>>>> highway, baby sitting on the steering wheel, nursing.

    Passed on I-80 by a woman reading a book.

    Slice of pizza in one hand, cup of coffee in the other.

    Turns pages with her nose?

    That's how she puts her mascara on.

    Reminds me of driving to work one morning. This idiot almost swerved
    into me. Startled me so badly I dropped my electric razor into my coffee. >>>

    I frequently see drivers with a cup of coffee in one hand, a burger in the >> other, trying to light a cigarette while basically driving with their
    knees. SCARY

    I do not believe you. No one sane smokes and eats at the same time. It ruins both experiences.


    This is Indiana home of:


    Religious Freedom Restoration Act
    No Sunday Alcohol Sales
    and
    Mike Pence

    'Nuff said

    John Mc.

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to billturlock@billturlock.com on Sat Mar 12 19:53:01 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <mga9ebd5p23m7gu9ckldfmah90mod689do@4ax.com>,
    Bill Turlock <billturlock@billturlock.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 12:47:04 -0800 (PST), Alfalfa Bill
    <tedthecat85@aol.com> wrote:

    Driver Crashes While Using Taser On Girlfriend; Meth Lab Found In Trunk >Tulsa World; Friday, March 11, 2016

    She was NOT my girlfriend!

    Not after that, anyhow.

    Also, she was dead when she got in the car, officer.

    --
    What is this called? http://imgur.com/c6bHOCc 19 cm/7.5" tall
    -eben QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP ebmanda.redirectme.net:81

    This message was created using recycled electrons.

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  • From Charles Bishop@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Sat Mar 19 13:35:01 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3ulkof.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about >>>>>>>> when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I >>>>>>> meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking >>>>>>> up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive >>> the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick >> him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits
    from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually
    pretty
    cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they
    understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped
    up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping
    of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were >frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a >double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the >Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.

    Look for Pandanus candelabrum.



    --
    charles, an indicator species for diamond-bearing kimberlite

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to Charles Bishop on Sat Mar 19 23:25:32 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:35:01 -0800, Charles Bishop wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3ulkof.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about
    when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I >> >>>>>>> meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking >> >>>>>>> up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >> >>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried
    driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >> >>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I
    leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55
    all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >> >>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >> >>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive >> >>> the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >> >>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick >> >> him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits
    from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually
    pretty
    cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they >> >> understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped
    up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping
    of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the
    Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.

    Look for Pandanus candelabrum.

    Pandas valeting for Liberace?

    --
    Queen of the fucking universe.

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  • From John Mc.@21:1/5 to Charles Bishop on Tue Mar 22 16:42:04 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    On 3/19/2016 5:35 PM, Charles Bishop wrote:
    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3ulkof.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about >>>>>>>>>> when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a time >>>>>>>>> and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when I >>>>>>>>> meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle taking >>>>>>>>> up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side of >>>>>> the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also tried >>>>>> driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. I >>>>> also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I >>>>> leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55 >>>>> all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town. Want >>>>> to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as you >>>>> leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll drive >>>>> the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >>>>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to pick >>>> him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits >>>> from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually
    pretty
    cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they >>>> understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped >>> up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping >>> of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By
    the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the
    Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.

    Look for Pandanus candelabrum.




    Found Lamproite and some very, very small crystals that to me weren't
    worth checking to see what they were. (We're talking tweezers to even
    pick them up)

    John Mc.

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  • From Charles Bishop@21:1/5 to Lesmond on Mon Mar 28 11:31:13 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o4blmk0.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:35:01 -0800, Charles Bishop wrote:

    In article <yrfzbaqirevmbaarg.o3ulkof.pminews@192.168.0.6>,
    "Lesmond" <lesmond@verizon.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:05:07 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 10:13 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0500, John Mc. wrote:

    On 3/6/2016 2:22 PM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <X7OdnRBX1Y0A6EHLnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 10:45 AM, Hactar wrote:
    In article <nbhcnd$ce9$1@dont-email.me>, John Mc.
    <john@thetdcogre.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2016 2:29 AM, Lesmond wrote:
    We're not talking about being stuck behind. We're talking about >> >>>>>>>> when he's
    coming in the opposite direction. Or at least I was.

    And me. I've got little problem with following one of them for a >> >>>>>>> time
    and usually they'll pull over to let others pass. Problem is when >> >>>>>>> I
    meet
    one head on, so to speak. He's the one the ginormous vehicle
    taking
    up
    3/4 of the road. To me, he can make an accommodation.

    Then I got nothin', except "get good at reversing".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg3HEKcsiM4

    Just for kicks, I used to drive home from the entrance to the
    neighborhood (~0.5 miles, 3 turns, 1 nasty dip), staying on my side >> >>>> of
    the road, stopping at stop signs, and signalling properly. I also
    tried
    driving with one hand, and one foot. One hand AND one foot in a
    stickshift is a bitch.


    Except for the manual transmission part this is how I drive every day. >> >>> I
    also adhere to the speed limit too. As I leave town from work once I >> >>> leave the city limits I speed up to 55 and set my cruise. Now it's 55 >> >>> all the way home except for two short speed zones and a small town.
    Want
    to know how to irritate folks? That small town has 4 way stop and as >> >>> you
    leave two speed zones, 30 mph then 40. Adhere to these and you'll
    drive
    the locals crazy. They'll tailgate, weave and bob across the center of >> >>> the road.

    You drive my child to school?

    Yeah, he takes the bus, but he'll stay after for clubs and I have to
    pick
    him up. It's backroads and local 2 lane highways, with varying limits >> >> from
    30 to 50. And the way I go, there's a four way stop. It's actually
    pretty
    cool because he and his friends have just done Drivers' Ed and and they >> >> understand what assholes everyone is being.

    Today on my way home once I'd left Lafayette on the State Highway I sped >> >up to 60, set my cruise and reset the average speed readout on my dash
    to keep check. This was at 3:15 or so and school buses were out dropping >> >of kids all along that road. I wasn't stopped by any but there were
    frequent lines of oncoming traffic which prevented anyone from passing
    me for most of the trek. I only slowed down for the two speed zones. By >> >the time I reached the town with four way stop I had been passed on a
    double yellow line twice and once on the right on the shoulder of the
    road. I had at least 12 vehicles behind me.

    (ping Lesmond I've an expedition planned next week. We're taking the
    Grand-munchkins diamond hunting and I plan to try out the dash cam.)

    I can't wait. And I hope you find diamonds.

    Look for Pandanus candelabrum.

    Pandas valeting for Liberace?

    Yes, a reliable indicator.

    --
    caharle, but rare

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