• acetone vs light switch

    From Hactar@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 28 14:21:12 2016
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    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to lalbert1@aol.com on Sun Feb 28 19:59:29 2016
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    In article <q417dbtrmqm7rov7d78d9adq25d7puv74n@4ax.com>,
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:21:12 -0500, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door >knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door >hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it >scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it >dissolve switches and outlets too?

    Try some of these other methods that won't dissolve plastic: http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-remove-paint-from-plastic#b

    Interesting, thanks. It does say to try nail polish remover, but it
    doesn't specify standard or non-acetone stuff.

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  • From Pierre Jelenc@21:1/5 to Hactar on Mon Feb 29 02:51:25 2016
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    In article <8utbqc-tab.ln1@pc.home>, Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote: >When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door >knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it >scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    I always start with mineral oil (baby oil) and patience. Paint the spot
    lightly with oil and let it sit several days. Usually that will soften it
    so that it can be scraped or rubbed off, then washed with detergent
    without affecting the plastic. If the surface is vertical, try a paper
    towel pad soaked in oil and held against the surface with tape.

    This works also extremely well to remove labels with adhesive backings.

    Pierre
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  • From Tim Wright@21:1/5 to Hactar on Sun Feb 28 20:59:34 2016
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    On 2/28/2016 1:21 PM, Hactar wrote:
    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    If the paint is only on the switch plate or outlet cover, just replace
    them. You can get them for < 30¢.

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    Tim W

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to tlwright6x@gmail.com on Sun Feb 28 22:13:14 2016
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    In article <lfGdne3BkuqKKU7LnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/28/2016 1:21 PM, Hactar wrote:
    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it dissolve switches and outlets too?

    If the paint is only on the switch plate or outlet cover, just replace
    them. You can get them for < 30¢.

    It's not. Besides, the covers are flat and therefore relatively easy to de-paint.

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  • From bill van@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 28 20:34:40 2016
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    In article <ajpcqc-qvv.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <lfGdne3BkuqKKU7LnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/28/2016 1:21 PM, Hactar wrote:
    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it dissolve switches and outlets too?

    If the paint is only on the switch plate or outlet cover, just replace them. You can get them for < 30¢.

    It's not. Besides, the covers are flat and therefore relatively easy to de-paint.

    Surely this is the painter's responsibility. Is there no way to get him
    to clean up after himself?
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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to billvan@delete.shaw.ca on Mon Feb 29 00:51:07 2016
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    In article <billvan-A42623.20344028022016@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>,
    bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
    In article <ajpcqc-qvv.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <lfGdne3BkuqKKU7LnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/28/2016 1:21 PM, Hactar wrote:
    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door
    knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it
    scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it dissolve switches and outlets too?

    If the paint is only on the switch plate or outlet cover, just replace them. You can get them for < 30¢.

    It's not. Besides, the covers are flat and therefore relatively easy to de-paint.

    Surely this is the painter's responsibility. Is there no way to get him
    to clean up after himself?

    It's my mother. Apparently I'm a lot pickier than she is.

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  • From Lesmond@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 29 00:27:28 2016
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    Sometimes all I have to do is read the subject and know exactly who posted
    it.


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  • From bill van@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 28 22:13:59 2016
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    In article <br2dqc-0go.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    In article <billvan-A42623.20344028022016@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>,
    bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> wrote:
    In article <ajpcqc-qvv.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

    In article <lfGdne3BkuqKKU7LnZ2dnUU7-e3NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    Tim Wright <tlwright6x@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2/28/2016 1:21 PM, Hactar wrote:
    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door
    knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it
    scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it dissolve switches and outlets too?

    If the paint is only on the switch plate or outlet cover, just replace them. You can get them for < 30¢.

    It's not. Besides, the covers are flat and therefore relatively easy to de-paint.

    Surely this is the painter's responsibility. Is there no way to get him
    to clean up after himself?

    It's my mother. Apparently I'm a lot pickier than she is.

    Ah. Well, I assume you got a good price, then. Good luck with the
    cleanup.
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  • From Greg Goss@21:1/5 to Hactar on Mon Feb 29 06:37:01 2016
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    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door >knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it >scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    My new North Van apartment was similar. Whatever happened to the idea
    of painting the wall BEFORE screwing the covers on?

    In my case, fingernails worked fine on the plug / light switch covers,
    too.
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  • From Osmium@21:1/5 to Hactar on Mon Feb 29 09:35:46 2016
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    "Hactar" wrote:

    In article <q417dbtrmqm7rov7d78d9adq25d7puv74n@4ax.com>,
    Les Albert <lalbert1@aol.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:21:12 -0500, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door
    knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it
    scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    Try some of these other methods that won't dissolve plastic:
    http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-remove-paint-from-plastic#b

    Interesting, thanks. It does say to try nail polish remover, but it
    doesn't specify standard or non-acetone stuff.

    My interpretation of that is that acetone is OK. I think most people think nail polish *is* acetone, and the author is writing for "most people", not chemists.

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to gossg@gossg.org on Mon Feb 29 11:26:50 2016
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    In article <djivrrFi049U1@mid.individual.net>,
    Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door >knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door >hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it >scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it >dissolve switches and outlets too?

    My new North Van apartment was similar. Whatever happened to the idea
    of painting the wall BEFORE screwing the covers on?

    Yes, that would have made sense. Or even *gasp* masking things. She
    appears to have taken the outlet covers and possibly the switch covers
    off before painting, but the actual outlets, switches, door handles,
    strike plates, and hinges, they're now splotchy blue or white.

    In my case, fingernails worked fine on the plug / light switch covers,
    too.

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  • From Charles Bishop@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 1 20:22:37 2016
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    In article <8utbqc-tab.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    Was the paint water based? If so, it will probably easily scrape off the
    light switches and outlets. Buy new switch plates.

    He really "splashed" the paint on these things?

    Did you pay him?

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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to ctbishop@earthlink.net on Wed Mar 2 01:37:09 2016
    XPost: alt.fan.cecil-adams

    In article <ctbishop-6FEAD0.20223701032016@news.individual.net>,
    Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> wrote:
    In article <8utbqc-tab.ln1@pc.home>, ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)
    wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it dissolve switches and outlets too?

    Was the paint water based? If so, it will probably easily scrape off the light switches and outlets. Buy new switch plates.

    It looks like she took the switch plates and outlet covers off first.
    Notably _not_ the door handles and strike plates.

    He really "splashed" the paint on these things?

    There are spots of paint on the floor. Some appear to have been stepped
    on or otherwise transferred from something else. A few are from the
    previous painting job. I got most of them with acetone, but the stuff in
    the grout is a lot harder to remove. I'm not sure I could, without
    removing the grout too. Maybe hit it with a steamer to melt it, then sop
    it up with a paper towel.

    Did you pay him?

    No, it's my mother's house and she and my sister were the painters.

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  • From Osmium@21:1/5 to Hactar on Wed Mar 2 07:27:10 2016
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    "Hactar" wrote:

    Did you pay him?

    No, it's my mother's house and she and my sister were the painters.

    Why does this case remind me of Judge Wapner?

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  • From Jeff Wisnia@21:1/5 to Greg Goss on Wed Mar 2 17:41:06 2016
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    Greg Goss wrote:
    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door
    knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it
    scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    My new North Van apartment was similar. Whatever happened to the idea
    of painting the wall BEFORE screwing the covers on?

    In my case, fingernails worked fine on the plug / light switch covers,
    too.



    When I paid my first visit to the apartment of the girl who became my
    SWMBO of the last 38 years I was shocked, shocked to see that she had wallpapered her kitchen by herself and papered right over the switch
    plates and outlets.

    She had punched small holes in the paper for the switch levers and plug
    prongs to fit through.

    We're a good match though, she's great with helping people and kids with learning problems and I can fix anything except a broken heart or the
    crack of dawn.

    Jeff
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  • From Hactar@21:1/5 to Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net on Wed Mar 2 18:20:32 2016
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    In article <TNydncajn-Kf8UrLnZ2dnUU7-SHNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
    Jeff Wisnia <Jwisnia18@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> wrote:


    Greg Goss wrote:
    ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) wrote:

    When the room was painted, the painter swiped/splashed paint on the door >> knobs/handles/hinges, the floor, outlets, and light switches. Door
    hardware is easy, remove it before I clean it. If I can't remove it, it >> scrapes off with a fingernail and some effort. Floors are easy, it's
    tile. What about the others? Acetone dissolves paint, but will it
    dissolve switches and outlets too?

    My new North Van apartment was similar. Whatever happened to the idea
    of painting the wall BEFORE screwing the covers on?

    In my case, fingernails worked fine on the plug / light switch covers,
    too.

    When I paid my first visit to the apartment of the girl who became my
    SWMBO of the last 38 years I was shocked, shocked to see that she had wallpapered her kitchen by herself and papered right over the switch
    plates and outlets.

    She had punched small holes in the paper for the switch levers and plug prongs to fit through.

    We're a good match though, she's great with helping people and kids with learning problems and I can fix anything except a broken heart or the
    crack of dawn.

    Maybe you know how to patch the crack that's developed in my rear end. Apparently Beldar Conehead knows the secret.

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  • From Lee Ayrton@21:1/5 to Jeff Wisnia on Sat Apr 16 18:14:47 2016
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    On 3/2/2016 5:41 PM, Jeff Wisnia wrote:

    When I paid my first visit to the apartment of the girl who became my
    SWMBO of the last 38 years I was shocked, shocked to see that she had wallpapered her kitchen by herself and papered right over the switch
    plates and outlets.

    She had punched small holes in the paper for the switch levers and plug prongs to fit through.

    Professional paper hangers get paid money to do that.

    Oh, wait. She didn't paper the cover plates separately, carefully
    aligning the paper pattern on the plate with the paper on the wall?
    Never mind.


    Lee "Done papering the room, cannot find the cat." Ayrton

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Lee Ayrton on Sat Apr 16 22:36:46 2016
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    In <neudgu$n47$1@reader1.panix.com> Lee Ayrton <layrton481@gmail.com> writes:

    On 3/2/2016 5:41 PM, Jeff Wisnia wrote:

    When I paid my first visit to the apartment of the girl who became my
    SWMBO of the last 38 years I was shocked, shocked to see that she had
    wallpapered her kitchen by herself and papered right over the switch
    plates and outlets.

    She had punched small holes in the paper for the switch levers and plug
    prongs to fit through.

    Professional paper hangers get paid money to do that.

    Oh, wait. She didn't paper the cover plates separately, carefully
    aligning the paper pattern on the plate with the paper on the wall?
    Never mind.

    That's like all those people on tv who take a gift box, put wrapping
    paper on the main portion, then put a separate sheet of paper
    on the cover and for good measure a ribbon and bow, then
    place the top on the box.

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