• US officials say Beijing over the last two years has significantly

    From Phantom_View@21:1/5 to Byker on Tue Sep 8 22:57:56 2020
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    On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:17:28 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    "spacer" wrote in message news:rj44ro$n3v$1@dont-email.me...

    Indeed US accusations could not be verified and hence could not be
    rational discussion. US has been faking up unverifiable statements as a
    matter to bash China.

    Here's an interesting documentary that keeps re-appearing
    on YouTube no matter how many times it's yanked off the site
    ("Video Unavailable"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY

    "If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and >says, 'While you're at Tufts University we want you to go over to some >laboratory and gather THIS, the student can say, 'I'm busy. It's gonna >interfere with my dissertation.'

    "If the Chinese foreign intelligence service goes to a student and says,
    'You want a visa? You want a passport? When you go to the United States or >France you WILL write a dissertation on this, you WILL work on this project, >and you WILL report back to us, or you'll never get a job in China and your >family will lose their house.' Now, they have the capacity to do that."

    It's available in HD...


    The concept of "choice" does not apply when totalitarian
    governments are involved. You get exactly TWO "choices",
    do exactly what they order you to do, or ELSE ... and that
    likely includes your immediate family too.

    What a shitty way to live.

    One Kommela Harris badly wants to create HERE.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to spacer on Tue Sep 8 21:17:28 2020
    XPost: soc.culture.china, talk.politics.misc, alt.economics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    "spacer" wrote in message news:rj44ro$n3v$1@dont-email.me...

    Indeed US accusations could not be verified and hence could not be
    rational discussion. US has been faking up unverifiable statements as a matter to bash China.

    Here's an interesting documentary that keeps re-appearing
    on YouTube no matter how many times it's yanked off the site
    ("Video Unavailable"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY

    "If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and says, 'While you're at Tufts University we want you to go over to some laboratory and gather THIS, the student can say, 'I'm busy. It's gonna interfere with my dissertation.'

    "If the Chinese foreign intelligence service goes to a student and says,
    'You want a visa? You want a passport? When you go to the United States or France you WILL write a dissertation on this, you WILL work on this project, and you WILL report back to us, or you'll never get a job in China and your family will lose their house.' Now, they have the capacity to do that."

    It's available in HD...

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  • From ¸.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 9 06:25:30 2020
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    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

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    Phantom_View wrote on 2020-09-08 10:57 PM:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:17:28 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    "spacer" wrote in message news:rj44ro$n3v$1@dont-email.me...
    Indeed US accusations could not be verified and hence could not be
    rational discussion. US has been faking up unverifiable statements as a
    matter to bash China.
    Here's an interesting documentary that keeps re-appearing
    on YouTube no matter how many times it's yanked off the site
    ("Video Unavailable"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY

    "If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and >> says, 'While you're at Tufts University we want you to go over to some
    laboratory and gather THIS, the student can say, 'I'm busy. It's gonna
    interfere with my dissertation.'

    "If the Chinese foreign intelligence service goes to a student and says,
    'You want a visa? You want a passport? When you go to the United States or >> France you WILL write a dissertation on this, you WILL work on this project, >> and you WILL report back to us, or you'll never get a job in China and your >> family will lose their house.' Now, they have the capacity to do that."

    It's available in HD...

    The concept of "choice" does not apply when totalitarian
    governments are involved. You get exactly TWO "choices",
    do exactly what they order you to do, or ELSE ... and that
    likely includes your immediate family too.

    What a shitty way to live.

    One Kommela Harris badly wants to create HERE.



    What do you think the CIA and NSA are doing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac










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    rational discussion. US has been faking up unverifiable statements as a
    matter to bash China.
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    Here's an interesting documentary that keeps re-appearing
    on YouTube no matter how many times it's yanked off the site
    ("Video Unavailable"): <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY</a>

    "If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and says, 'While you're at Tufts University we want you to go over to some laboratory and gather THIS, the student can say, 'I'm busy. It's gonna interfere with my dissertation.'

    "If the Chinese foreign intelligence service goes to a student and says,
    'You want a visa? You want a passport? When you go to the United States or France you WILL write a dissertation on this, you WILL work on this project, and you WILL report back to us, or you'll never get a job in China and your family will lose their house.' Now, they have the capacity to do that."

    It's available in HD...
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    The concept of "choice" does not apply when totalitarian
    governments are involved. You get exactly TWO "choices",
    do exactly what they order you to do, or ELSE ... and that
    likely includes your immediate family too.

    What a shitty way to live.

    One Kommela Harris badly wants to create HERE.


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  • From Phantom_View@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 9 22:34:36 2020
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    On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 06:25:30 -0400, Mike Pompeii <@¸ ¸.> wrote:

    Phantom_View wrote on 2020-09-08 10:57 PM:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 21:17:28 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    "spacer" wrote in message news:rj44ro$n3v$1@dont-email.me...
    Indeed US accusations could not be verified and hence could not be
    rational discussion. US has been faking up unverifiable statements as a >>>> matter to bash China.
    Here's an interesting documentary that keeps re-appearing
    on YouTube no matter how many times it's yanked off the site
    ("Video Unavailable"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mkxL4iqcAY

    "If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and
    says, 'While you're at Tufts University we want you to go over to some
    laboratory and gather THIS, the student can say, 'I'm busy. It's gonna
    interfere with my dissertation.'

    "If the Chinese foreign intelligence service goes to a student and says, >>> 'You want a visa? You want a passport? When you go to the United States or >>> France you WILL write a dissertation on this, you WILL work on this project,
    and you WILL report back to us, or you'll never get a job in China and your >>> family will lose their house.' Now, they have the capacity to do that."

    It's available in HD...

    The concept of "choice" does not apply when totalitarian
    governments are involved. You get exactly TWO "choices",
    do exactly what they order you to do, or ELSE ... and that
    likely includes your immediate family too.

    What a shitty way to live.

    One Kommela Harris badly wants to create HERE.



    What do you think the CIA and NSA are doing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPt-zXn05ac


    No idea ... that's the idea :-)

    At least Clapper is not in charge anymore (though he still
    thinks he is sometimes).

    Anyway, as weird as the CIA can get, it is nothing of the
    scope and scale of CCP spooks.

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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 10 11:37:47 2020
    XPost: soc.culture.china, talk.politics.misc, alt.economics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    "Phantom_View" wrote in message news:b1hglfh12u2rp6hmpllhj5r5k34732udgh@4ax.com...

    The concept of "choice" does not apply when totalitarian
    governments are involved. You get exactly TWO "choices",
    do exactly what they order you to do, or ELSE ... and that
    likely includes your immediate family too.

    What a shitty way to live.

    One Kommela Harris badly wants to create HERE.

    I wonder how many Chinese "students", angered by Bejing's threats against
    them and their families, have "flipped" and have become double agents for
    the NSA, CIA, and FBI, reporting to Washington what's REALLY going on behind the Bamboo Curtain, and at the same time feeding their handlers back home
    false and misleading, but believable, "intelligence"...

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