• Re: The Salmon of Wisdom

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 30 00:30:44 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.religion.asatru, soc.culture.nordic
    XPost: rec.arts.poems, alt.religion.druid

    On Jun 29, 2022, Siri Cruise wrote on alt.atheism (in article<chine.bleu-FBB08D.18395129062022@news.eternal-september.org>):

    In article<almarsoft.64706661014429140@news.easynews.com>,
    Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:29:49 -0700 (PDT), JWS <jldsand@skybeam.com>
    wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 8:12:25 PM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
    Let me know if you notice any effects.

    Sounds fishy.

    Indeed

    Perhaps I will have to wait for the waxing salmon (moon),
    though in the waning salmon moon I did come to the
    conclusion that some of my stuff was rejected.

    The addler walked with Othin wise
    with Hoenir under honey skies;
    they found a river fast and deep.
    They wanderred whither waters leap.

    An otter sat in arden reeds
    with lidded eyes below the weeds.
    He closed his eyes to cloak the thought
    the salmon soon would seem as naught.

    Then Loki threw a lethal stone
    that scathed its life from skin and bone.
    It loosed as aimed, to Loki's boast:
    both fish and otter flames would roast.

    What’'s the source for that?

    I wot that I hung on the wind-tossed tree
    all of nights nine,
    wounded by spear, bespoken to Othin,
    bespoken myself to myself,
    upon that tree of which none telleth
    from what roots it doth rise.]

    Neither horn they upheld nor handed me bread
    I looked below me--
    aloud I cried--
    caught up the runes, caught them up wailing,
    thence to the ground fell again.

    Then began I to grow and gain in insight,
    to wax eke in wisdom:
    one verse led on to another verse,
    One poem led on to another poem.

    Stanzas 138, 139 and 141 of Havamal, The Poetic Edda (Hollander's
    translation).

    I relate that to my naked thorn hill climb, but I have not yet reached
    the wisdom and sustained poetic creativity stage, which
    Taliesin (Gwion Bach) implied that he also had in
    "Gwion has kept the cauldron
    Steadily boiling...”

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “‘Then you saw me from the cathedral/Well I'm an ancient heart/Yes,
    you saw me from the cathedral/And here we are just falling apart" (T.T.)

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed Jun 29 21:37:28 2022
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.religion.asatru, soc.culture.nordic
    XPost: rec.arts.poems, alt.religion.druid

    In article
    <0001HW.286D495C001344E970000708338F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

    On Jun 29, 2022, Siri Cruise wrote on alt.atheism (in article<chine.bleu-FBB08D.18395129062022@news.eternal-september.org>):

    In article<almarsoft.64706661014429140@news.easynews.com>,
    Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:29:49 -0700 (PDT), JWS <jldsand@skybeam.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 8:12:25 PM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
    Let me know if you notice any effects.

    Sounds fishy.

    Indeed

    Perhaps I will have to wait for the waxing salmon (moon),
    though in the waning salmon moon I did come to the
    conclusion that some of my stuff was rejected.

    The addler walked with Othin wise
    with Hoenir under honey skies;
    they found a river fast and deep.
    They wanderred whither waters leap.

    An otter sat in arden reeds
    with lidded eyes below the weeds.
    He closed his eyes to cloak the thought
    the salmon soon would seem as naught.

    Then Loki threw a lethal stone
    that scathed its life from skin and bone.
    It loosed as aimed, to Loki's boast:
    both fish and otter flames would roast.

    What’'s the source for that?

    About 400 stanzaa adapted from Edda, Volsungasaga, and roman
    history (Aetius, Atilla, and Honoria).

    I wot that I hung on the wind-tossed tree
    all of nights nine,
    wounded by spear, bespoken to Othin,
    bespoken myself to myself,
    upon that tree of which none telleth
    from what roots it doth rise.]

    Neither horn they upheld nor handed me bread
    I looked below me--
    aloud I cried--
    caught up the runes, caught them up wailing,
    thence to the ground fell again.

    Then began I to grow and gain in insight,
    to wax eke in wisdom:
    one verse led on to another verse,
    One poem led on to another poem.

    Stanzas 138, 139 and 141 of Havamal, The Poetic Edda (Hollander's translation).

    I relate that to my naked thorn hill climb, but I have not yet reached
    the wisdom and sustained poetic creativity stage, which
    Taliesin (Gwion Bach) implied that he also had in
    "Gwion has kept the cauldron
    Steadily boiling...”

    --
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    I am an Andrea Chen sockpuppet. insults Islam. Mohammed

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