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replying to The Real Tom, katykat wrote:
I had the fire chief in my town tell me it's because the room is warm and
above the smoke detector is cold. My detectors are hard wired to the ceiling.
He told me to unscrew them and let them hang when it's cold outside. I found if I run my ceiling fan on low this also helps.

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replying to Bennett Price, Berma wrote:
I'm an electronics engineer, and have over the past year purchased several Kidde Model i9040 ionization smoke detectors. I was annoyed to find almost
all of them, at one time or another, with fresh batteries, sound false "Low-Battery" alarms in middle of cold nights. I verified that the batteries are good, even when alarm is sounding, I can consistently measure more than 9 volts in every case - so it's not weak batteries, unless it maintains voltage but not enough current? There is no moisture issue, in fact winter nights
here are cool. Inside temp that seems to be around 45-55F. What annoys me is this is not unusual for many parts of my home on coldest nights. I've used many brands of ionization detectors and never had this issue. Kidde needs to solve this, as it could result in death or injury when we have to disable one or more of them at night.

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replying to Berma, Silvanus wrote:
Thank you! We have an array of Kidde smoke detectors and since the temperature dropped here they are going off at five in the morning for no apparent reason. No moisture - except from two people breathing on the other side of a door. No insects coordinating their activity to that hour. No appliances on in the house. I think it is just one that is misbehaving and setting off the others. I may swop them around to see what happens...

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replying to Berma, bmay wrote:
If they are hardwired to AC why did the batteries even come in the play

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replying to Berma, Louis Desmarais wrote:
The solution is to heat your house to at least 60 F. Batteries do not work as well in cold temperatures thus causing the low battery alarm or chirp.

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replying to PipeDown, Arlene wrote:
Do you think a humidifier could do this, oR a very cold attic?

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I so agree. If my house gets below 73F my alarms do the low battery chirp, and of course it’s in the middle of the night when you’re all snuggled in and sound asleep. The batteries are new so it’s not this. I blow my smoke detectors out cause I
have furry dogs. I called my local fire depts (2!) and they both said they have never heard of this. But, come to my house around 3am when it gets to 68 degrees and listen to my smoke detectors chirp with fresh batteries in them. Bas___ds!!!

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On 11/19/2021 6:15 PM, DJHueneburg wrote:

I so agree. If my house gets below 73F my alarms do the low battery
chirp, and of course it’s in the middle of the night when you’re all snuggled in and sound asleep. The batteries are new so it’s not this. I blow my smoke detectors out cause I have furry dogs. I called my local
fire depts (2!) and they both said they have never heard of this. But,
come to my house around 3am when it gets to 68 degrees and listen to my
smoke detectors chirp with fresh batteries in them. Bas___ds!!!

Given the price of smoke detectors, I have a simple solution. If one
goes off, they all go off but if you cannot narrow it down, you know
what to do.

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On 11/19/2021 3:15 PM, DJHueneburg wrote:

I so agree. If my house gets below 73F my alarms do the low battery
chirp, and of course it’s in the middle of the night when you’re all snuggled in and sound asleep. The batteries are new so it’s not this. I blow my smoke detectors out cause I have furry dogs. I called my local
fire depts (2!) and they both said they have never heard of this. But,
come to my house around 3am when it gets to 68 degrees and listen to my
smoke detectors chirp with fresh batteries in them. Bas___ds!!!

And what did the manufacturer say when you contacted them about it?

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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 19 Nov 2021 17:48:22 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/19/2021 3:15 PM, DJHueneburg wrote:

I so agree. If my house gets below 73F my alarms do the low battery
chirp, and of course it’s in the middle of the night when you’re all
snuggled in and sound asleep. The batteries are new so it’s not this. I
blow my smoke detectors out cause I have furry dogs. I called my local
fire depts (2!) and they both said they have never heard of this. But,
come to my house around 3am when it gets to 68 degrees and listen to my
smoke detectors chirp with fresh batteries in them. Bas___ds!!!

And what did the manufacturer say when you contacted them about it?

Good point. I just told, further down, a story about one neighbor. but
25 years ago there was another neibhgor, whose smoke alarm kept beeping.
He said that he took it to be repaired (although I don't know who
repaired them, then or now.) and while it was out, he had a fire.

It turned out something was smouldering**, maybe a cigarette in a sofa?,
and finally caught fire.

Beeping and chirping are not the same, but maybe the OP should get a
totally separtate smoke alarm and see what it has to say. While he
still has the chirping one.

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Yup, i bought all new ones, these are going in the trash. We had a temp change and the one with a brand new 10 year date alkaline is the one that’s doing the low battery chirp. The bedroom is the other with a 2 mo old brand new, name brand alkaline. Im
done.

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On 12/5/21 10:01 AM, Dj Hueneburg wrote:

Yup, i bought all new ones, these are going in the trash. We had a temp change and the one with a brand new 10 year date alkaline is the one
that’s doing the low battery chirp. The bedroom is the other with a 2 mo old brand new, name brand alkaline. Im done.

I've been especially disappointed with the Kidde 10 year smoke
detectors. Best one I had lasted about 6 years, worst was 9 months. They
start going off for no reason.

Before Carrier acquired Kidde, a call or email to customer service got
you a new one via FedEx in short order. Way, way back, they asked you to
put their return label on the old one so their Quality Control could see
what the problem was.

Last few years, they no longer ask for return of the old one. My theory
on that is that they know the alarms are crap.

Since Carrier bought Kidde, it takes multiple requests until they get
around to sending a new one- usually months later while you are without
a smoke alarm on that level of your house.

I've started replacing the Kidde ones with First Alert brand. Hopefully, they're better...

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