What is the last version of Thunderbird that can be used in Win98se?
If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.
And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.
I have ver. 2.0.0.24. I have been using that for decades and never had a--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
need to upgrade. It does all I need, so why add more bloated crap.
I use gmail, and use their SMTP pop mail to get my email to TB. I no
longer have any web access, using ANY browser in Win98. Changing all the
web to HTTPS ended all my use of the web. Actually, losing the web was
not a big problem. Seems everyone is using facebook now anyhow, and I >absolutely hate FB and would not use it if they paid me. So, goodbye
web....
But now I am getting a constant error in Thunderbird that keeps saying I
dont have some security enabled. I looked in the settings and there is
no security enabled, but when I try to change it, it says that none of
them are usable.
I am sure that no versions made in recent years will load in Win98, but
maybe I can upgrade a few versions? Does anyone know if any newer
version will work? (Do they have better security features)?
Personally I could care less about security. All I do is chit chat with
a few friends and none of it has any secretive stuff. But I guess Google
has other ideas. They dont care who suffers, just as long as they can
control the internet. Soon, it will be much more secure, because no one
will be able to use it.
If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.
Anyhow, I am just wondering if there is any way to upgrade TB. If not, I >guess I'll have to go back to the old fashioned methods of using the >telephone to contact friends, just like i have gone back to using the
books at the library to look stuff up, because I can no longer use the
web.
In a way, it's kind of funny. I was raised to use books to learn stuff,
and use the phone to contact friends. Then we were all given this
amazing tool called the internet to make life easier. It worked great
for about 2 decades. Now it's all been taken away from us. Or at least
from those of us who cant afford a new computer and pay $150 per month
to get high speed internet, which is the only way I can get anything
more than dialup.
And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.
lastcall@thebar.co- writes:
What is the last version of Thunderbird that can be used in Win98se?
I know nothing about Thunderbird, but if you have KernelEx installed
in your Win98SE, you can use Firefox up to version 3.6.28, which will
still operate with many basic Web sites (but not with recent YouTube
videos, or with HTML5; e.g., forget about internet banking or other >transactions involving secure communications). You'd be better off having
a dual-boot system with Windows 98SE and Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2,
in which most secure Web sites will still work.
If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.
If you live in an area with a Sprint signal, and you have income
less than 200% of federal poverty guidelines, you might want to look up >PCsforPeople.com. This involves a one-time purchase of a tiny wireless >hotspot device, after which you can maintain wireless internet service for >$120 per year. Mine is not as fast as Centurylink DSL service (Sprint
gives only one-bar signal in my area), but it's much faster than dialup,
and has the big advantage that the device can be taken along when I
travel, and will work wherever the Sprint signal is available.
And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.
If you qualify under the low-income requirement and live in an area
with Sprint signals, you may want to look into Qlink.com, which offers
*free* smartphones and accounts with up to 1,000 minutes per month in many >areas. The phone will connect to the internet wherever there's an open
WiFi signal, and does include a browser, though I find it quite hard to
use because it's very difficult to type on the tiny touchscreen keyboard.
But the free phone service alone is more than worth having, compared to
the $100 per year I was formerly paying for a flip-phone account.
--Donald Davis
I have ver. 2.0.0.24. I have been using that for decades and never had a >>need to upgrade. It does all I need, so why add more bloated crap.
I use gmail, and use their SMTP pop mail to get my email to TB. I no
longer have any web access, using ANY browser in Win98. Changing all the >>web to HTTPS ended all my use of the web. Actually, losing the web was
not a big problem. Seems everyone is using facebook now anyhow, and I >>absolutely hate FB and would not use it if they paid me. So, goodbye >>web....
But now I am getting a constant error in Thunderbird that keeps saying I >>dont have some security enabled. I looked in the settings and there is
no security enabled, but when I try to change it, it says that none of
them are usable.
I am sure that no versions made in recent years will load in Win98, but >>maybe I can upgrade a few versions? Does anyone know if any newer
version will work? (Do they have better security features)?
Personally I could care less about security. All I do is chit chat with
a few friends and none of it has any secretive stuff. But I guess Google >>has other ideas. They dont care who suffers, just as long as they can >>control the internet. Soon, it will be much more secure, because no one >>will be able to use it.
If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.
Anyhow, I am just wondering if there is any way to upgrade TB. If not, I >>guess I'll have to go back to the old fashioned methods of using the >>telephone to contact friends, just like i have gone back to using the
books at the library to look stuff up, because I can no longer use the
web.
In a way, it's kind of funny. I was raised to use books to learn stuff,
and use the phone to contact friends. Then we were all given this
amazing tool called the internet to make life easier. It worked great
for about 2 decades. Now it's all been taken away from us. Or at least
from those of us who cant afford a new computer and pay $150 per month
to get high speed internet, which is the only way I can get anything
more than dialup.
And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.
I have ver. 2.0.0.24. I have been using that for decades and never had a
need to upgrade. It does all I need, so why add more bloated crap.
[snip]
But now I am getting a constant error in Thunderbird that keeps saying I
dont have some security enabled. I looked in the settings and there is
no security enabled, but when I try to change it, it says that none of
them are usable.
I am sure that no versions made in recent years will load in Win98, but
maybe I can upgrade a few versions? Does anyone know if any newer
version will work? (Do they have better security features)?
Personally I could care less about security. All I do is chit chat with
a few friends and none of it has any secretive stuff. But I guess Google
has other ideas. They dont care who suffers, just as long as they can
control the internet. Soon, it will be much more secure, because no one
will be able to use it.
Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2 in which most secure
Web sites will still work.
Donald,
Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2 in which most secure
Web sites will still work.
Any reason for that, and not an earlier/later version ?
FYI, I have v52 installed (on XP), and *really* don't like it that it tries >to phone home every time I start it - nor the ammount of (sometimes >guess)work involved to disable other phone home stuff. So, I would not
mind using an earlier version which does not have as many "you must want to >have this" (which I don't) features.
The biggest problem however is that there seems to be *absolutily zero* in >regard to a feature/comparision sheet, meaning that, most important, I
cannot even check which encryption levels are supported by which version
(and thus have no idea how far back I can go, version wise, without loosing >connectivity).
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2 in which most secure
Web sites will still work.
Any reason for that, and not an earlier/later version ?
Another option is to use web mail and find a new email server with a
website that suits your browser. Many of the interfaces that can be
chosen at safe-mail.net should work well in FF 3.6, and they still
allow TLS 1.0 connections (disable SSL 3.0 support in the settings
(Advanced > Encryption) if you have trouble). You only get a 3MB
inbox for free accounts though.
On FF 42, most recent YouTube videos wouldn't play. I've never
Donald,
Windows XP with Firefox 48.0.2 in which most secure
Web sites will still work.
Any reason for that, and not an earlier/later version ?
FYI, I have v52 installed (on XP), and *really* don't like it that it tries to phone home every time I start it - nor the ammount of (sometimes guess)work involved to disable other phone home stuff. So, I would not
mind using an earlier version which does not have as many "you must want to have this" (which I don't) features.
The biggest problem however is that there seems to be *absolutily zero* in regard to a feature/comparision sheet, meaning that, most important, I
cannot even check which encryption levels are supported by which version
(and thus have no idea how far back I can go, version wise, without loosing connectivity).
What is the last version of Thunderbird that can be used in Win98se?
They have added more and more junk in over time
though at least, unlike Chrome, you can disable it in about:config
_if_ you can find the setting to change
On a more modern Linux distro (on a more modern PC) I'm running
the latest FF 52 ESR (52.9).
They're going to stop supporting V. 52 ESR on the 5th of Sep., so then..
I'll move up to V. 60(?)
At a guess though, I'd be worried about whether it will work on
XP
This has been my valued reference for such matters, already used
in this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#Web_browsers
This has been my valued reference for such matters, already used
in this thread:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#Web_browsers
Whooperdiedoop! My thanks for that. :-D
<strikethru>
Looking at that chart I can see FF 60.x ESR (you referred to) is mentioned there (supporting TLS 1.3), but am fully unsure how to interpret it (if it will actually run on XP - even though the next columns seems to say so).
And are you perhaps aware of, for FF, a comparision chart showing which "junk"/features/buildin advertising-friendly crap each version has (getting
a newer encryption is good, but what is it going to cost me) ?
</strikethru>
I just remembered that being able to use certain plugins (RequestPolicy and GreaseMonkey) is pretty-much a deal-breaker to me. A quick peek showed me that RequestPolicy doesn't seem to work on v57+ ...
Bummer. TLS 1.3 would be handy to have.
It does say that there's "experimental" support in V. 52, so
you might be able to turn it on in about:config somewhere.
What is the last version of Thunderbird that can be used in Win98se?
I have ver. 2.0.0.24. I have been using that for decades and never had a
need to upgrade. It does all I need, so why add more bloated crap.
I use gmail, and use their SMTP pop mail to get my email to TB. I no
longer have any web access, using ANY browser in Win98. Changing all the
web to HTTPS ended all my use of the web. Actually, losing the web was
not a big problem. Seems everyone is using facebook now anyhow, and I absolutely hate FB and would not use it if they paid me. So, goodbye
web....
But now I am getting a constant error in Thunderbird that keeps saying I
dont have some security enabled. I looked in the settings and there is
no security enabled, but when I try to change it, it says that none of
them are usable.
I am sure that no versions made in recent years will load in Win98, but
maybe I can upgrade a few versions? Does anyone know if any newer
version will work? (Do they have better security features)?
Personally I could care less about security. All I do is chit chat with
a few friends and none of it has any secretive stuff. But I guess Google
has other ideas. They dont care who suffers, just as long as they can
control the internet. Soon, it will be much more secure, because no one
will be able to use it.
If I lose my email, I am finished with the internet completely. There is
no sense paying for service, when all I can use are the newsgroups, and
as everyone knows, the newsgroups are darn near dead.
Anyhow, I am just wondering if there is any way to upgrade TB. If not, I guess I'll have to go back to the old fashioned methods of using the telephone to contact friends, just like i have gone back to using the
books at the library to look stuff up, because I can no longer use the
web.
In a way, it's kind of funny. I was raised to use books to learn stuff,
and use the phone to contact friends. Then we were all given this
amazing tool called the internet to make life easier. It worked great
for about 2 decades. Now it's all been taken away from us. Or at least
from those of us who cant afford a new computer and pay $150 per month
to get high speed internet, which is the only way I can get anything
more than dialup.
And by the way, my flip phone used to have basic internet service. That
too no longer works. So, as far as I'm concerned, the internet is dead.
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