Re: Windows 98se
I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....
What file and where is the setting for the icons? What I want to do is
just backup that file so I can replace it when the desktop gets messed
up. There is supposedly some setting to lock the desktop, but I have
never found it, and if it does exist, I'd still like to backup whatever
file has the icon settings, just in case!
What file and where is the setting for the icons?
They are located in the registry under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Desktop.
The key that should interest you is the ItemPosXXXxXXX
(where XXX is your resolution).
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:18:50 PM UTC-6, anon...@internet.none wrote:
Re: Windows 98se
I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....
That data is stored in the registry as encoded information, you can try
to save System.dat and user.dat which are the registry files and
attempt to reapply them in DOS mode, but changes done since the last
save for the rest of the machine means you might have some programs
installed anymore.
A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you
can't see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but
works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:18:50 PM UTC-6, anon...@internet.none wrote:
Re: Windows 98se
I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....
What file and where is the setting for the icons? What I want to do is
just backup that file so I can replace it when the desktop gets messed
up. There is supposedly some setting to lock the desktop, but I have
never found it, and if it does exist, I'd still like to backup whatever
file has the icon settings, just in case!
That data is stored in the registry as encoded information, you can try to save
System.dat and user.dat which are the registry files and attempt to reapply them
in DOS mode, but changes done since the last save for the rest of the machine means you might have some programs installed anymore.
A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't see it
here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works well for 98 too. >http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't
see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee <melee5@my-deja.com>
wrote:
A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't >> see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works
well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
This link is poor. Using my Win98 with firefox 3.x on dialup, It took a
half hour to load, gave me a security error and when I finally got to
the page, there was no download link to click on. (It's a cnet page).
http://www.midiox.com/
But they did list the above webpage, which is the author's site. I
clicked on it, it loaded in seconds and clicking on "Desktop Restore"
took me right to the downloads. There are 6 versions of it. The bottom
one is for Win98. The others are for XP up to Win10. Some are 64 bit.
Dont waste your time with cnet, and the extreme amount of ads they bloat
you with. Go directly to the site I posted.
--
Now that I got the file, I'll try it. But have not done so yet.
In message <6gvqcd1s76ickhbpeh95mpqld2phnplaoj@4ax.com>, >anonymous@internet.none writes:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee <melee5@my-deja.com>The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk >called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at >http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windows/Desktop/EnhancementUtilities/ezdesk.html
wrote:
A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't >>> see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works >>>well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
This link is poor. Using my Win98 with firefox 3.x on dialup, It took a >>half hour to load, gave me a security error and when I finally got to
the page, there was no download link to click on. (It's a cnet page).
http://www.midiox.com/
But they did list the above webpage, which is the author's site. I
clicked on it, it loaded in seconds and clicking on "Desktop Restore"
took me right to the downloads. There are 6 versions of it. The bottom
one is for Win98. The others are for XP up to Win10. Some are 64 bit.
Dont waste your time with cnet, and the extreme amount of ads they bloat >>you with. Go directly to the site I posted.
--
Now that I got the file, I'll try it. But have not done so yet.
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I >actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it
does work on 98 - even 95.
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:37:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk >>called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at >>http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windows/Desktop/EnhancementUtilities/ezd >>esk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I >>actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it >>does work on 98 - even 95.
Unfortunately the download is gone too. The page is there at the link
you posted, but clicking on the download button brings up another page,
then there is an error saying the download is not there.
Do you have the original install file? If you do, is there some place on
the web you can stick it for downloading? Like a personal website or >something. It's a very small file. 83kb.
[icon position saving/restoring]
In message <q4nrcdhsfe2rhb68dr1ob1oea17o74klej@4ax.com>, >anonymous@internet.none writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:37:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/content.php?id=988131&path=WINDOWS %2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2FREADME.TXTThe one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk >>>called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at >>>http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windows/Desktop/EnhancementUtilities/ezd >>>esk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I >>>actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it >>>far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it >>>does work on 98 - even 95.
Unfortunately the download is gone too. The page is there at the link
you posted, but clicking on the download button brings up another page, >>then there is an error saying the download is not there.
Do you have the original install file? If you do, is there some place on >>the web you can stick it for downloading? Like a personal website or >>something. It's a very small file. 83kb.
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB) >http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-download-7419.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so >obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just
now)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/content.php?id=988131&path=WINDOWS >%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB) >>http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-download-7419.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so >>obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just >>now)
Thanks
The driverguide one refused to let me download. Their idiotic captcha
said I need to upgrade my browser. I kindly filpped them the bird, used
the best of my collection of F-words and moved on. (I'll add them to my
HOST file later on, so I dont have to waste another 10 min waiting for
their useless site to load).
Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should
have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..
In message <ar3ucdhsk4q06grvbrqg5p3eqq5dais6rf@4ax.com>, >anonymous@internet.none writes:I agree about the sutes with the word "driver" being useless. I've run
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/content.php?id=988131&path=WINDOWS >>%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB) >>>http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-download-7419.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so >>>obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just >>>now)
Thanks
The driverguide one refused to let me download. Their idiotic captcha
said I need to upgrade my browser. I kindly filpped them the bird, used
the best of my collection of F-words and moved on. (I'll add them to my >>HOST file later on, so I dont have to waste another 10 min waiting for >>their useless site to load).
I didn't want to recommend them - sites with "driver" in the name are >generally at best a waste of time IMO, possibly worse - but they were
the first one I found that actually had the file.
Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.It works without Kernel-EX as well. I like it too: does what it says on
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should >>have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..
the tin, as we say, without any fuss (and you can store an arrangement
for each resolution, too), and works under XP too. Not, sadly, 7 -
either iconoid or DesktopOK are my choices here. The one _theoretical_ >disadvantage of EZDesk (1.8 was I think the last version) is that it
still stores its settings in the registry; the only one that I know
actually stores the settings in a file is >https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/DesktopOK - I'm not sure if
that works under '98, though there is _a_ mention of 98 on that page.
But I never found EZDesk storing its settings in the registry to
actually cause a problem.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:43:46 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" ><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
In message <ar3ucdhsk4q06grvbrqg5p3eqq5dais6rf@4ax.com>, >>anonymous@internet.none writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" >>><G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote:[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/content.php?id=988131&path=WINDOWS >>>%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB) >>>>http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-download-7419.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so
I didn't want to recommend them - sites with "driver" in the name are >>generally at best a waste of time IMO, possibly worse - but they wereI agree about the sutes with the word "driver" being useless. I've run
the first one I found that actually had the file.
across them far too many times. There is no reason on earth that a
captcha is needed to download a file.
Yes!Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I >>>clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should
[]have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on >>>Win98se with Kernel-EX..It works without Kernel-EX as well. I like it too: does what it says on
https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/DesktopOK - I'm not sure if
that works under '98, though there is _a_ mention of 98 on that page.
But I never found EZDesk storing its settings in the registry to
actually cause a problem.
I didnt thing Kernel-Ex was needed.
So the settings are in the registry. I was wondering where.
Actually I have yet to find where the program got installed to. It's not
in Program Files. I deleted the install TEMP folder. (But saved the
original download). So where did it go?
I should mention that this file should be required before installing
Opera (browser). I dont know how many times I tried different versions
of Opera, and every time my desktop got all messed up. One reason I quit
even trying Opera, but that was many years ago. I never liked Opera
anyhow.
I got a laugh reading the "how to register" text file. It says you can
buy it on a 3.5" floppy. Ya never hear that anymore. Heck, it's hard to
even find blank floppies these days. This Win98 machine is the only
computer I have that still has a floppy drive. If I need something from
a floppy on my newer computers, I just stick the floppy in the 98
machine and dump the contents to a flash drive.
I still remember when I had Windows 3.1 and had two 40 meg hard drives
in it. Then I backed it up on floppy. I had to feed about 55 floppies in
that drive to complete the backup. What a pain....
And to think, one youtube video can easily be 80 megs these days.
And the rest! I have some videos that are in the high hundreds, and HD
movie enthusiasts must go into the tens of gigs most of the time (even
an SD one is a few gigs). Yes, my first actual PC had either a 40 or 80M >(can't remember - think 80). But if we're getting into Yorkshiremen
Sketch territory, the first computer I actually learnt on had a memory
of 16. (No, not 16K.) That taught you _really_ compact programming (-:
[Weird machine: 7 bit, ones (rather than twos) complement arithmetic,
serial processing (max. ~ 100 kHz, IIRR) ...]
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