• Outlook 2010 and my IMAP (longish)

    From Jim S@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 11:01:46 2019
    I have three accounts on Outlook2010.
    Two of them work fine (Gmail and Virginmedia(IMAP)
    However my webhost IMAP account, now and then, comes up with the 'server
    has closed the connection' or words to that effect (Error 0x800ccdd).
    I have tried all the solutions suggested on various Googled sites, but none
    of them work.
    What puzzles me is that it is only on my web host address, which is
    otherwise excellent. I have contacted them more than once and they suggest
    that their security settings are more up to date than the others and they
    will do the same in the fullness of time, but I'm not sure I believe them.
    If I change hosts only to find the same, I will be no further forward.
    They (my host) suggest I use Thunderbird and it does work without any
    problems, but Outlook is so 'grown-up' in comparison, I would rather use
    it.
    Has anyone here had the same problem with one account and not others; is it Outlook2010's fault or is it the fault of my webhost.
    PS I cannot afford to a later version of M$ Office and the rest works fine.
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    Jim S

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Jim S on Tue Oct 15 13:35:58 2019
    Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

    I have three accounts on Outlook2010.
    Two of them work fine (Gmail and Virginmedia(IMAP) However my webhost
    IMAP account, now and then, comes up with the 'server has closed the connection' or words to that effect (Error 0x800ccdd). I have tried
    all the solutions suggested on various Googled sites, but none of
    them work.

    What puzzles me is that it is only on my web host address, which is
    otherwise excellent. I have contacted them more than once and they
    suggest that their security settings are more up to date than the
    others and they will do the same in the fullness of time, but I'm not
    sure I believe them. If I change hosts only to find the same, I will
    be no further forward. They (my host) suggest I use Thunderbird and
    it does work without any problems, but Outlook is so 'grown-up' in comparison, I would rather use it.

    Has anyone here had the same problem with one account and not others;
    is it Outlook2010's fault or is it the fault of my webhost.

    PS I cannot afford to a later version of M$ Office and the rest works
    fine.

    Does their IMAP server support PUSH or IDLE?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-IMAP
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE

    However, as I recall, the client issues a command, like HELO or EHLO,
    and looks at the response from the server to parse out keywords, like
    PUSH or IDLE. From what I've read, Outlook 2010 supports IMAP IDLE. I
    don't think IMAP PUSH has gotten much support yet. For example, if you
    go into Send/Receive tab, Send/Receive Groups, Define Send/Receive
    Groups, there is a polling option of "Schedule automatic send/receive
    every X minutes". If that is disable, and if both client and server
    support IMAP IDLE, then you still get notified when there is a new
    message in your e-mail account.

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177

    I'm not sure how IDLE all works. I doubt the client is given a
    persistent connection, because that would consume resources at the
    server that need to be freed up to grant connects from all their other
    users. IDLE is something akin to a ping: "Any new messages?" versus
    "Give me a list of all messages in all folders and I'll check which are
    new."

    https://www.imageway.com/2018/email-hosting-blog/imap-idle-the-best-approach-for-push-email

    It looks like the client keeps reissuing an IDLE command to the server
    to see if there are new messages available in the account. An IDLE has
    the server just return status and is less demanding than issuing LIST or
    UIDL commands to get a full list of messages in the account (LIST and
    UIDL list all messages, and it's the client that tracks which are new or
    old). The RFC says:

    The server MAY consider a client inactive if it has an IDLE command
    running, and if such a server has an inactivity timeout it MAY log
    the client off implicitly at the end of its timeout period. Because
    of that, clients using IDLE are advised to terminate the IDLE and
    re-issue it at least every 29 minutes to avoid being logged off.
    This still allows a client to receive immediate mailbox updates even
    though it need only "poll" at half hour intervals.

    So, check how often Outlook polls the server. You want it 5 minutes, or longer, but less than 29 minutes. I assume you are leaving Outlook
    loaded and running all the time to check for new messages as they
    arrive.

    How often is the polling interval? Some servers don't like less than 5
    minutes since this short of a polling interval is considered abusive.
    If you don't have any new messages, the polls won't find any, but you
    used resources at the server to find out there are no new messages. If
    there are new messages, it'll probably take you longer than 5 minutes to
    read through them. You'd have to check with your e-mail provider what anti-abuse and anti-spam quotas they enforce on their e-mail accounts to
    make sure, for example, that you are not exceeding how many connects you
    are allowed per day or per minute.

    Do you have an anti-virus program installed with it configured to
    intercept and interrogate your e-mail traffic? That is redundant,
    because it detects nothing more than the on-access (real-time) scanner
    of the AV program. The e-mail interrogation is using the same engine as
    the on-access scanner. However, the local transparent proxy used by the
    AV program to interrogate the e-mail traffic can cause timeouts (both to
    the client when it is waiting for e-mails to download and to the server
    when waiting for the client after it sends an e-mail). E-mail scanning
    by AV is superfluous, so disable that feature or uninstall it (if it is
    a separate module, like in Avast/AVG) and retest.

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