• Imbox Message Order

    From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 21 16:29:31 2019
    Outlook 2016.

    My Inbox order is sent to RECEIVED, with the chevron pointing up, so
    the new messages are at the bottom of the list.

    That's the way it's always been, at least for as long as I can
    remember. But what's new (at least for the past few weeks) is that
    when I go to the Inbox, the oldest message (the message on top) is
    what I see.

    It's the opposite of the it used to be, and the way I would prefer it
    to be--showing the most recent message, the one at the bottom.

    Does anyone here know what changed and why? And whether I can change
    it back, and if so, how?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Jun 22 03:23:19 2019
    Ken Blake wrote:

    Outlook 2016.

    My Inbox order is sent to RECEIVED, with the chevron pointing up, so
    the new messages are at the bottom of the list.

    That's the way it's always been, at least for as long as I can
    remember. But what's new (at least for the past few weeks) is that
    when I go to the Inbox, the oldest message (the message on top) is
    what I see.

    It's the opposite of the it used to be, and the way I would prefer it
    to be--showing the most recent message, the one at the bottom.

    Does anyone here know what changed and why? And whether I can change
    it back, and if so, how?

    Unclear if you are asking why:

    - The sort order changed. In that case, click on the Received column
    header to toggle the sort order. Even toggle it and then back to see
    if kicking it in the butt gets it sorted in the correct order to match
    the chevron direction.

    - The list is still sorted oldest to newest top down but now the default
    selected message when you load Outlook is the one at the top (oldest)
    instead the one at the bottom (newest).

    Do you have grouping enabled? That shows e-mails by shared dates, like
    all on Monday, Tuesday, etc. I hate that mode because conversations
    that span many days aren't and cannot be grouped by a single day.

    Are you using Conversation mode? I gave up on that because there are
    way too many users of crappy e-mail clients that do not add the
    References header which is used to track threading of messages into a
    tree hierarchy (aka conversation). Way too many users are cryptic in
    their Subject header resulting in them using the same one, so threading
    by Subject header means you get unrelated threads merged together.

    Do you let Office automatically update? Done any Windows updates
    lately? If either, have you rebooted Windows to allow any locked files
    to get replace by the updated versions during a boot?

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sat Jun 22 07:33:20 2019
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 03:23:19 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Ken Blake wrote:

    Outlook 2016.

    My Inbox order is sent to RECEIVED, with the chevron pointing up, so
    the new messages are at the bottom of the list.

    That's the way it's always been, at least for as long as I can
    remember. But what's new (at least for the past few weeks) is that
    when I go to the Inbox, the oldest message (the message on top) is
    what I see.

    It's the opposite of the it used to be, and the way I would prefer it
    to be--showing the most recent message, the one at the bottom.

    Does anyone here know what changed and why? And whether I can change
    it back, and if so, how?

    Unclear if you are asking why:

    - The sort order changed.


    No.


    In that case, click on the Received column
    header to toggle the sort order. Even toggle it and then back to see
    if kicking it in the butt gets it sorted in the correct order to match
    the chevron direction.

    - The list is still sorted oldest to newest top down but now the default
    selected message when you load Outlook is the one at the top (oldest)
    instead the one at the bottom (newest).


    Yes.



    Do you have grouping enabled?


    Yes. And I think that was the problem. I just turned grouping off and
    I think that fixed it. Thanks very much.



    That shows e-mails by shared dates, like
    all on Monday, Tuesday, etc. I hate that mode because conversations
    that span many days aren't and cannot be grouped by a single day.

    Are you using Conversation mode? I gave up on that because there are
    way too many users of crappy e-mail clients that do not add the
    References header which is used to track threading of messages into a
    tree hierarchy (aka conversation). Way too many users are cryptic in
    their Subject header resulting in them using the same one, so threading
    by Subject header means you get unrelated threads merged together.

    Do you let Office automatically update? Done any Windows updates
    lately? If either, have you rebooted Windows to allow any locked files
    to get replace by the updated versions during a boot?

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 08:56:39 2019
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 07:33:20 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 03:23:19 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Ken Blake wrote:

    Outlook 2016.

    My Inbox order is sent to RECEIVED, with the chevron pointing up, so
    the new messages are at the bottom of the list.

    That's the way it's always been, at least for as long as I can
    remember. But what's new (at least for the past few weeks) is that
    when I go to the Inbox, the oldest message (the message on top) is
    what I see.

    It's the opposite of the it used to be, and the way I would prefer it
    to be--showing the most recent message, the one at the bottom.

    Does anyone here know what changed and why? And whether I can change
    it back, and if so, how?

    Unclear if you are asking why:

    - The sort order changed.


    No.


    In that case, click on the Received column
    header to toggle the sort order. Even toggle it and then back to see
    if kicking it in the butt gets it sorted in the correct order to match
    the chevron direction.

    - The list is still sorted oldest to newest top down but now the default
    selected message when you load Outlook is the one at the top (oldest)
    instead the one at the bottom (newest).


    Yes.



    Do you have grouping enabled?


    Yes. And I think that was the problem. I just turned grouping off and
    I think that fixed it. Thanks very much.



    I was wrong. It didn't fix it. The problem remains.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Tue Jun 25 01:29:58 2019
    Ken Blake wrote:

    Ken Blake wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    Ken Blake wrote:

    Outlook 2016.

    My Inbox order is sent to RECEIVED, with the chevron pointing up,
    so the new messages are at the bottom of the list.

    That's the way it's always been, at least for as long as I can
    remember. But what's new (at least for the past few weeks) is that
    when I go to the Inbox, the oldest message (the message on top) is
    what I see.

    It's the opposite of the it used to be, and the way I would prefer
    it to be--showing the most recent message, the one at the bottom.

    Do you have grouping enabled?

    Yes. And I think that was the problem. I just turned grouping off
    and I think that fixed it. Thanks very much.

    I was wrong. It didn't fix it. The problem remains.

    If you are still using Conversation view, you sure the latest received
    message isn't getting grouped into the old conversation at the top?

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