Does outlook latest version sync to Google Calendar?
If not it's no good to me.
Jim S wrote:
Does outlook latest version sync to Google Calendar?
If not it's no good to me.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/see-your-google-calendar-in-outlook-c1dab514-0ad4-4811-824a-7d02c5e77126
While Outlook (part of Office 365) can use Exchange to synchronize your e-mails, contacts, calendar, like with a Hotmail/Live/Outlook.com
account, Google doesn't support Exchange. Google instead has an API to access their services, but that means using Google apps instead of
Microsoft apps.
Outlook can "sync" (sort of) with a Google Calendar by using iCal data.
That means the Outlook client can retrieve events from your Google
Calendar. This is one-way sync. You cannot create calendar events in Outlook to get them pushed into your Google Calender.
What you get in Outlook is a *copy* of your Google Calendar. That's the limitation of using iCal. Microsoft could use Google's API to do full
sync, but if Google changed anything then Microsoft would be on the hook
to get Outlook to match (just like how Google doesn't support
Microsoft's Exchange since Google doesn't have control over that
proprietary protocol).
If you want to "sync" your Outlook Calendar into your Google Calendar,
you do the same iCal setup, so you get a copy of your Outlook Calendar
to see in your Google Calendar. The result is that if you want to
create or edit events in your Google Calendar then you go there to do
so, and then Outlook will show you a /copy/ of those events from
Google's Calendar. Same for visa version (showing a copy of Outlook's Calendar in Google's Calendar).
Google doesn't do Exchange. Microsoft doesn't do Google's APIs. If
each did then they would cooperate with each other to provide a portal
into each other services, and that's not something either wants. A
client that does both Exchange and Google's API would allow interactive access to both calendaring services (and then try to merge or overlay
them into a single calendar presented to the user). Outlook 2016, nor
any prior version, does that. Google's clients don't do that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
My recollection is that if you way 2-way synchronization, you had to use
a service that accepted iCal data from either service and then updated
the other service. Instead of just reading the other calendar, you
could also create and edit events in the other calendar. I suspect that meant the 2-way sync service needed your login credentials, so they
could take iCal data from one end to perform the actions on the other
end.
iCal is to publish your calendar, so others (including yourself) can
/see/ your calendar at a different calendering service or their client. Seeing a published calender (whether private or public) doesn't give you interactive access to that calender. You can read. You cannot create
or edit. You need to pick which will be your primary calendaring
service where you can create, edit, or read your events, and then, if
you want then publish it to see elsewhere. Else, you need to employ an arbitration service that takes iCal data from one calendaring service to convert into actions performed in the other calendaring service.
iCal sucks. You get to see the other calendar. You don't get to
interact with the other calendar (create, edit), just read it. While
you can see both calendars, you'll still be managing them separately.
That's the situation with most local clients. The Calendar app for
Windows 10 (which is a UWP/WinRT app, not a Win32 app) does seem to
support both Outlook and Google calendars. For example, I have both my Hotmail and Google Calendars subscribed in the Calendar for Win10 app,
and when I create a new event then I get to pick in which calendar the
event gets created. If you aren't careful, you'll put an event in the
wrong calendar since the default on new event is to use the same
calendar you used before to add a new event. Since iCal is a data
stream coming at you (and not outward), the Calendar for Win10 app must
be supporting both Exchange and Google's API to allow interaction with
both. On further checking, looks like Microsoft and Google decided to
start supporting REST, but then that's all new to me, anyway, despite
REST is actually pretty old.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_state_transfer
I had heard of Google using REST but didn't hear Microsoft did the same.
https://developers.google.com/photos/library/guides/about-restful-apis https://github.com/microsoft/api-guidelines
Since Outlook (and other local clients or web clients) only support
letting you use iCal to merely /see/ the other calendar, all you get is
a published calendar, not an interactive one. The Calendar for Windows
10 app looks to be interactive on both Outlook and Google calendars.
You never mentioned which OS you are using. The Outlook <yearversion> program probably won't do what you want. I don't think Thunderbird or
most other classic clients will, either (in giving you interactive calendars). The Calendar for Win10 app does. I think em Client also
does; however, I trialed them a short time, and when they start screwing
up merging my contacts from Outlook and Google together and creating
multiple duplications (which also appeared using the webclient) that
made my contacts confusing to understand, I uninstalled eM Client.
Within a week of trialing eM Client, I had half a dozen, or more, bug
reports or feature requests (that I expected the program to have).
In trialing eM Client, took me awhile to tweak the e-mail functions,
then the contact functions (and debug why all the duplications showed
up), and didn't get much time to check their calendaring functions.
Contacts were getting screwed up, so I uninstalled before doing much
with calendaring from multiple services (Outlook.com and Google). It supports Exchange, so my Outlook calendar was interactive (local changes
were reflected in my online account), but I didn't get around to testing
if my Google calendar was interactive in eM Client or just subscribed to
the iCal published copy.
I guess what you're saying is that it's no different'calenderwise'
than my Outlook 2010 version. I have been using Thunderbird for a
while and although it is not as sophisticated as Outlook, it does
what I ask in a little more 'rustic' fashion. I would have hated to
have spent good money on upgrading to still have ended up with what I
have already.
I was, of course talking about the desktop version of Oulook 365.
I guess what you're saying is that it's no different'calenderwise'
than my Outlook 2010 version. I have been using Thunderbird for a
while and although it is not as sophisticated as Outlook, it does what
I ask in a little more 'rustic' fashion.
I would have hated to have spent good money on upgrading to still have
ended up with what I have already.
Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
I was, of course talking about the desktop version of Oulook 365.
I guess what you're saying is that it's no different'calenderwise'
than my Outlook 2010 version. I have been using Thunderbird for a
while and although it is not as sophisticated as Outlook, it does what
I ask in a little more 'rustic' fashion.
I would have hated to have spent good money on upgrading to still have
ended up with what I have already.
Mind you, if all you need is Outlook on Windows to sync your calendar
(and
contacts?) with your Google account, that's easy... http://caldavsynchronizer.org/ should do the trick nicely
Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
I was, of course talking about the desktop version of Oulook 365.
I guess what you're saying is that it's no different'calenderwise'
than my Outlook 2010 version. I have been using Thunderbird for a
while and although it is not as sophisticated as Outlook, it does what
I ask in a little more 'rustic' fashion.
I would have hated to have spent good money on upgrading to still have
ended up with what I have already.
Mind you, if all you need is Outlook on Windows to sync your calendar
(and
contacts?) with your Google account, that's easy... http://caldavsynchronizer.org/ should do the trick nicely
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