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  • Column width won't adjust

    From teachfutures@gmail.com@21:1/5 to susan on Tue Feb 13 16:22:34 2018
    Susan's fix was the only one that worked! I had to clear the preferreds for Table, Column, and Cell. They stayed unchecked as long as I didn't close the dialog box. They went back to checked as soon as I closed it.

    But I closed it and immediately resized one column before it had the chance to recheck (real fast), and it stuck! Not ideal, to the say the least, but at least I don't have an 11" table any more!...

    On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 4:03:01 PM UTC-5, susan wrote:
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan

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  • From timslager@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 11:32:33 2019
    Had this same problem. It went away when I turned off the Review markups.

    The weirdest thing.

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  • From hisham@shatollschool.edu.mv@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 7 02:02:25 2019
    Select table and click clear formatting in the font tab.

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  • From elaine.zsang@gmail.com@21:1/5 to susan on Mon Nov 11 07:46:15 2019
    On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 5:03:01 PM UTC-4, susan wrote:
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan

    Hi, I had the same problem and found out the reason is that the column is automatically resized to fit contents. You can do the following to unfreeze the column:
    1. Click "layout" besides "Table Design"
    2. Click "Cell Margins"
    3. the "Table Options" window will pop out
    4. uncheck "Automatically resize to fit contents" under "Options".

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  • From exsplane94@gmail.com@21:1/5 to elain...@gmail.com on Fri Feb 14 13:44:38 2020
    On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-5, elain...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 5:03:01 PM UTC-4, susan wrote:
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan

    Hi, I had the same problem and found out the reason is that the column is automatically resized to fit contents. You can do the following to unfreeze the column:
    1. Click "layout" besides "Table Design"
    2. Click "Cell Margins"
    3. the "Table Options" window will pop out
    4. uncheck "Automatically resize to fit contents" under "Options".

    This worked fantastically! Easy fix! Thanks!

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  • From navinasingh@gmail.com@21:1/5 to elain...@gmail.com on Fri Jul 10 03:06:57 2020
    On Monday, 11 November 2019 15:46:16 UTC, elain...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 5:03:01 PM UTC-4, susan wrote:
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan

    Hi, I had the same problem and found out the reason is that the column is automatically resized to fit contents. You can do the following to unfreeze the column:
    1. Click "layout" besides "Table Design"
    2. Click "Cell Margins"
    3. the "Table Options" window will pop out
    4. uncheck "Automatically resize to fit contents" under "Options".

    This worked for me..!!
    Thanks.

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  • From KJ St.Pierre@21:1/5 to Suzanne S. Barnhill on Sat Jul 24 16:16:23 2021
    On Monday, June 2, 2003 at 2:38:53 PM UTC-7, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
    I find this the single most frustrating feature of Table Properties, and I'm not sure what I tell you will be correct, but here's what eventually works for me (sort of):
    1. Disable auto resizing (Options... on the Table tab).
    2. Disable any exact width for the entire table.
    3. Clear any exact width setting on the *Cell* tab.
    4. Then try to clear or change the exact width on the Column tab.
    It sometimes takes several trips to Table Properties (and bouncing back and forth between Cell and Column several times) to do this. I swear Word
    accepts changes on only one tab at a time. And sometimes the only thing that will break it loose is doing the first two or three of these and then adjusting the column width on the ruler. Alternatively, you can restore the old-fashioned Cell Height and Width dialog, which is better behaved; see http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/TablePropProbs.htm
    --
    Suzanne S. Barnhill
    Microsoft MVP (Word)
    Words into Type
    Fairhope, Alabama USA
    Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
    "susan" <ra...@cox.net> wrote in message news:050801c3294a$5a232fc0$a301...@phx.gbl...
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan


    SOLVED: I had applied text wrap to all of my cells and then removed every preferred width in every place I could find in table properties - first in the table as a whole, then by columns, and then, cell by cell, until there was no doubt. None were
    checked with a preferred width. Still it tried to enforce 1.61" as a minimum for each of 4 columns in a page with a wide margin of 7.75. It would not let me change when there was no visible reason for this. I even reduced each cell to a single letter (
    a, b, c...) and it still wouldn't let me revise the width. Spacing between the cells I had set at .09" as usual (3 x .09 = .27" width used up), but then I found the problem: My left/right cell margins were .8 (4x2x.8= 6.4" used up) when they should
    have been set at .08 (.64" used up). I was used to the "8" as the default and didn't notice. I changed this in the table properties and suddenly the entire table fit, but there were some lines that were disproportionate ... I found that I couldn't just
    fix the cell margins in options at the table level. I had to go into the cell tab of the table properties and select the option for cells margins to "Same as the whole table". By the way, the checkmark doesn't stay. I went back with no changes and the
    checkmark was gone, so it acts more as a reset.

    One of the big frustrations is that I would like to be able to LOCK these settings in the table properties. Regardless of unchecking the options to automatically fit, the table is subject to any other change revising the settings for preferred width.
    It would be nice if MS added a lock feature to the preferences so I can build a table and count on it not to shift.

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  • From Karolina Zajac@21:1/5 to tims...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 10 08:33:01 2021
    On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 9:32:34 PM UTC+3, tims...@gmail.com wrote:
    Had this same problem. It went away when I turned off the Review markups.

    The weirdest thing.

    Thank you!! This fixed it for me!!

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  • From L Brewer@21:1/5 to Karolina Zajac on Thu Dec 16 06:12:34 2021
    On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 8:33:02 AM UTC-7, Karolina Zajac wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 9:32:34 PM UTC+3, tims...@gmail.com wrote:
    Had this same problem. It went away when I turned off the Review markups.

    The weirdest thing.
    Thank you!! This fixed it for me!!
    Similar problem. Everything I did enlarged the 5-column table width eventually out to 9" wide. When I made sure each column's tabs aligned with the column width, I was finally able to reign in the page width of the columns.

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  • From Tomoko Okayasu@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 31 19:00:14 2022
    I had this same problem. Susan's fix worked! Thank you very much.

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  • From Vanessa McCubbing@21:1/5 to Tomoko Okayasu on Thu Feb 10 09:19:33 2022
    On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:00:15 PM UTC-6, Tomoko Okayasu wrote:
    I had this same problem. Susan's fix worked! Thank you very much.
    Same issue, however by selecting the whole table (top left 4 point arrow) and then clicking Distribute Columns (Table Tools --> Layout --> Cell Size section --> Distribute Columns) the whole table reset and I was able to resize as needed.

    Vanessa

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  • From Margot de Dominicis@21:1/5 to Suzanne S. Barnhill on Fri Apr 1 23:20:48 2022
    THANK YOU!!!!

    On Monday, 2 June 2003 at 22:38:53 UTC+1, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
    I find this the single most frustrating feature of Table Properties, and I'm not sure what I tell you will be correct, but here's what eventually works for me (sort of):
    1. Disable auto resizing (Options... on the Table tab).
    2. Disable any exact width for the entire table.
    3. Clear any exact width setting on the *Cell* tab.
    4. Then try to clear or change the exact width on the Column tab.
    It sometimes takes several trips to Table Properties (and bouncing back and forth between Cell and Column several times) to do this. I swear Word
    accepts changes on only one tab at a time. And sometimes the only thing that will break it loose is doing the first two or three of these and then adjusting the column width on the ruler. Alternatively, you can restore the old-fashioned Cell Height and Width dialog, which is better behaved; see http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/TablePropProbs.htm
    --
    Suzanne S. Barnhill
    Microsoft MVP (Word)
    Words into Type
    Fairhope, Alabama USA
    Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
    "susan" <ra...@cox.net> wrote in message news:050801c3294a$5a232fc0$a301...@phx.gbl...
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan

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  • From Minnie Not a Mouse@21:1/5 to Suzanne S. Barnhill on Mon Dec 5 04:52:15 2022
    On Monday, 2 June 2003 at 22:38:53 UTC+1, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
    I find this the single most frustrating feature of Table Properties, and I'm not sure what I tell you will be correct, but here's what eventually works for me (sort of):
    1. Disable auto resizing (Options... on the Table tab).
    2. Disable any exact width for the entire table.
    3. Clear any exact width setting on the *Cell* tab.
    4. Then try to clear or change the exact width on the Column tab.
    It sometimes takes several trips to Table Properties (and bouncing back and forth between Cell and Column several times) to do this. I swear Word
    accepts changes on only one tab at a time. And sometimes the only thing that will break it loose is doing the first two or three of these and then adjusting the column width on the ruler. Alternatively, you can restore the old-fashioned Cell Height and Width dialog, which is better behaved; see http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/TablePropProbs.htm
    --
    Suzanne S. Barnhill
    Microsoft MVP (Word)
    Words into Type
    Fairhope, Alabama USA
    Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
    "susan" <ra...@cox.net> wrote in message news:050801c3294a$5a232fc0$a301...@phx.gbl...
    Help all yot table wizards! Nothing seems to adjust the
    column width of a table I inherited! The column width
    markers on the ruler will dag but to no effect, the table
    properties column setting will allow you to enter a new
    value but the new width will not take. You can get the
    double headed arrow to drag the column edge but nothing
    moves! Finally I also tried playing around withthe autofit
    opitons but nohting chagnes. Text wrap is set to on.
    If I create a new table and choose fixed width, things are
    OK and I can change col width later, but with the table I
    inherited, I can not get the column width to change. Any
    suggestions??
    Susan


    Suzanne : THANKYOU whooo hoooo I spent almost a day on this - trying to reformat some inherited templates that seem to have been set up by a moron!

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