• Windows 2000-XP taskbar is ticklish?

    From JJ@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 2 17:06:15 2021
    When the taskbar is at the bottom of the screen and the mouse cursor is
    moved to the very bottom of the screen (so that the cursor only shows 1
    pixel), if we click the mouse, the cursor will be pushed back several pixels
    up away from the screen edge.

    If the taskbar is at left, then it's when the cursor is at the left edge of
    the screen, and it'll be pushed back several pixels to the right. Same thing
    if the taskbar is at the top or the right.

    This doesn't happen if the mouse cursor is at the other 3 screen edges where the taskbar doesn't stick on. And this only applies in Windows 2000 up to Windows XP.

    The question is, why does it do that? Anyone know?

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to jj4public@gmail.com on Thu Dec 2 06:01:13 2021
    JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:

    When the taskbar is at the bottom of the screen and the mouse cursor
    is moved to the very bottom of the screen (so that the cursor only
    shows 1 pixel), if we click the mouse, the cursor will be pushed back
    several pixels up away from the screen edge.

    If the taskbar is at left, then it's when the cursor is at the left
    edge of the screen, and it'll be pushed back several pixels to the
    right. Same thing if the taskbar is at the top or the right.

    This doesn't happen if the mouse cursor is at the other 3 screen
    edges where the taskbar doesn't stick on. And this only applies in
    Windows 2000 up to Windows XP.

    The question is, why does it do that? Anyone know?

    Under Mouse Properties for Pointers, are you using a Windows default
    scheme for pointers? Or some 3rd party pointer scheme? Are you using
    the mouse driver included in Windows, or did you install ancilliary
    software that came with the mouse? Whose device driver is the mouse
    using? Which brand and model of mouse are you using?

    Is the Taskbar always shown, or did you configure it to auto-hide?

    If using a Windows scheme, the pointer points up and to the left
    (northwesterly pointer). In that case, you cannot move the tip of the
    point beyond the screen at the left and top screen edges. The mouse
    stops moving when its tip hits those screen edges. However, you can
    make the mouse pointer disappear off the screen when you move it to the
    bottom or right edges. The "handle" part of the mouse pointer goes
    offscreen, and only a tiny edge of the left side of the pointer can be
    seen when it is moved off the right edge, and you may not see the very
    tip of the pointer when moved to the bottom edge.

    If you drag the mouse pointer starting inside a window with text (so you
    start by selecting text but drag the cursor outside that text window),
    the default drag icon is an I-bar, and you can partially see it on edge
    screen edge.

    Are you using a screen resolution that matches the native resolution of
    the monitor?

    Have you tried uninstalling the video driver/software for your
    unidentified video card, and revert to the standard/embedded driver in
    Windows to test mouse pointer behavior?

    Are you using a scaling feature in the video software that enlarges the
    logical screen greater than the monitor's physical screen size? That
    is, does the Windows screen slide around when the cursor hits a monitor
    screen edge?

    Since you are asking about really old OSes, are you using a CRT or LCD
    monitor?

    Are you using a 3rd party desktop manager instead of explorer.exe?

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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Fri Dec 3 15:40:12 2021
    On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 06:01:13 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
    Under Mouse Properties for Pointers, are you using a Windows default
    scheme for pointers?

    Yes. No fancy mouse cursor.

    Or some 3rd party pointer scheme?

    Nope.

    Are you using the mouse driver included in Windows, or did you install ancilliary software that came with the mouse? Whose device driver is the mouse using?

    Nope. All are Windows built ins. No OEMs driver. Just plain standard issue Microsoft HID mouse driver.

    Which brand and model of mouse are you using?

    Baseus GM01. It's a macro mouse, but I don't use any of its feature which involve moving the mouse automatically. It doesn't come with any OEM driver, and I don't run any of its included application in the background.

    Is the Taskbar always shown, or did you configure it to auto-hide?

    Auto hide. But it also happens if not set to auto-hide.

    Are you using a screen resolution that matches the native resolution of
    the monitor?

    Yes.

    Are you using a scaling feature in the video software that enlarges the logical screen greater than the monitor's physical screen size? That
    is, does the Windows screen slide around when the cursor hits a monitor screen edge?

    No and no.

    Since you are asking about really old OSes, are you using a CRT or LCD monitor?

    LCD.

    Are you using a 3rd party desktop manager instead of explorer.exe?

    No.

    I did mentioned that it only happens in Windows 2000 to Windows XP. Let me
    add more information. I've tested all Windows versions from NT4 up to
    Windows 10 in clean installations of VMs.

    Keep in mind that, I'm asking why it does that. I'm not stating that it's a problem that need to be solved.

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  • From Mayayana@21:1/5 to jj4public@gmail.com on Fri Dec 3 09:12:41 2021
    "JJ" <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote

    | I did mentioned that it only happens in Windows 2000 to Windows XP. Let me
    | add more information. I've tested all Windows versions from NT4 up to
    | Windows 10 in clean installations of VMs.

    Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 3 22:49:23 2021
    Mayayana,

    Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)

    Isn't having a hobby not already proof that of having to much time on ones hands ? :-p

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to R.Wieser on Sat Dec 4 14:06:36 2021
    On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 22:49:23 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
    Mayayana,

    Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)

    Isn't having a hobby not already proof that of having to much time on ones hands ? :-p

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    I think there's a thin line between hobbyist and professional.

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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to Mayayana on Sat Dec 4 14:06:44 2021
    On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 09:12:41 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

    Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)

    And my diagnosis tells me that you're included. XD

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  • From R.Wieser@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 4 08:19:02 2021
    JJ,

    I think there's a thin line between hobbyist and professional.

    Indeed. I've never been able to consider myself a professional as I tend to dive into the subject - spending way to much time on trying to "figure it
    out".

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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  • From Mayayana@21:1/5 to jj4public@gmail.com on Sat Dec 4 08:32:18 2021
    "JJ" <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote

    | > Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    | > and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)
    |
    | And my diagnosis tells me that you're included. XD

    Touche. :) Though I wouldn't agree there's a thin line between
    hobbyist and professional. A hobbyist can be an expert. But
    a professional has to perform dependably in an affordable time
    frame. A hobbyist might repair their own refrigerator. A pro
    has to do it dependably and quickly. They can't really be pro
    until they've fixed that exact problem numerous times. They're
    not doing it for fun.

    I don't think of myself as either with computers. Sitting
    at my computer is not a hobby. Learning about computers
    was at one time. As was programming. And to some extent
    I've done both tech support and programming professionally.
    But that mostly just grew out of a desire for competence.
    I wanted the computer to act as expected and do what I
    wanted. I'm a handyman by nature.

    I now only research when I have to. I don't clean
    Registries. I don't spend Saturdays exploring group policy
    entries. I just read articles, send email, edit photos, write
    and print business docs, etc. I've entered a phase of life
    that I call, "I'm too old for that shit." I sometimes think I'd
    like to get into writing a new program, but there's nothing
    I need.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 4 10:08:03 2021
    "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> on Sat, 4 Dec 2021 08:32:18 -0500
    typed in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general the following:
    "JJ" <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote

    | > Mine does the same. My diagnosis would be that you
    | > and Rudy both have too much time on your hands. :)
    |
    | And my diagnosis tells me that you're included. XD

    Touche. :) Though I wouldn't agree there's a thin line between
    hobbyist and professional. A hobbyist can be an expert. But
    a professional has to perform dependably in an affordable time
    frame. A hobbyist might repair their own refrigerator. A pro
    has to do it dependably and quickly. They can't really be pro
    until they've fixed that exact problem numerous times. They're
    not doing it for fun.

    The Pro (some one doing "it" for income) has to do "it" in a
    timely manner: paychecks don't come in until good product ships.
    The "hobbyist" or amateur, does "it" from a love of the subject.
    He can afford to be picky about parts, to take his time, to redo it if
    he believes it is needed, because he is not dependent of getting
    enough good product out the door this month to pay the bills.

    I don't think of myself as either with computers. Sitting
    at my computer is not a hobby. Learning about computers
    was at one time. As was programming. And to some extent
    I've done both tech support and programming professionally.
    But that mostly just grew out of a desire for competence.
    I wanted the computer to act as expected and do what I
    wanted. I'm a handyman by nature.

    I now only research when I have to. I don't clean
    Registries. I don't spend Saturdays exploring group policy
    entries. I just read articles, send email, edit photos, write
    and print business docs, etc. I've entered a phase of life
    that I call, "I'm too old for that shit." I sometimes think I'd
    like to get into writing a new program, but there's nothing
    I need.

    "One of these days, when I have the time ..." what Rich said to my
    dad about the disassembled Model A in his barn. Rich was 83 at the
    time.
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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