• Mouse

    From Recen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 17 12:12:59 2021
    Win XP Pro

    Control Panel Mouse does not show mouse side button so how do I get the magnifier attached to the side button.

    My vision is worsening and I need the magnifier.

    Have MS Notebook Optical 3000 Mouse.

    Thanks !

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  • From Recen@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Wed Nov 17 12:46:58 2021
    I already tried that after i sent my initial post.
    I downloaded the 32 bit version. Yes I did, 32 bit version.

    When I tried to install it, it popped up an error message saying it
    could not install because it was not the 32 bit version. WHAT ????

    MS screws up again ?

    Again MS cares NOT !
    If I do not fit their monetary profile, then be gone !


    VanguardLH wrote:
    Recen <Recen@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:

    Win XP Pro

    Control Panel Mouse does not show mouse side button so how do I get the
    magnifier attached to the side button.

    My vision is worsening and I need the magnifier.

    Have MS Notebook Optical 3000 Mouse.

    You'll need to install the ancilliary software that came with the mouse,
    or download from their web site, to add functionality beyond the
    standard 3-button wheel mouse. There are some standard button codes in
    the registry, but they won't cover the extra buttons which is why you
    need software to fully support all functions of specialty mice.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/mouse-and-keyboard-center-download-f5b10905-7887-eedb-2f1c-d0737a36a3b2

    However, if the software doesn't support Windows XP, you're stuck with
    the standard mouse attributes, or you can see if the software happens to
    work on Windows XP. The above web page does not mention Windows version support. There is a 32-bit version of the mouse software. You said
    Windows XP Pro, and that is a 32-bit OS.


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 14:29:50 2021
    Recen <Recen@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:

    Win XP Pro

    Control Panel Mouse does not show mouse side button so how do I get the magnifier attached to the side button.

    My vision is worsening and I need the magnifier.

    Have MS Notebook Optical 3000 Mouse.

    You'll need to install the ancilliary software that came with the mouse,
    or download from their web site, to add functionality beyond the
    standard 3-button wheel mouse. There are some standard button codes in
    the registry, but they won't cover the extra buttons which is why you
    need software to fully support all functions of specialty mice.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/mouse-and-keyboard-center-download-f5b10905-7887-eedb-2f1c-d0737a36a3b2

    However, if the software doesn't support Windows XP, you're stuck with
    the standard mouse attributes, or you can see if the software happens to
    work on Windows XP. The above web page does not mention Windows version support. There is a 32-bit version of the mouse software. You said
    Windows XP Pro, and that is a 32-bit OS.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 16:58:50 2021
    On 11/17/2021 3:46 PM, Recen wrote:

    I already tried that after i sent my initial post.
    I downloaded the 32 bit version.  Yes I did, 32 bit version.

    When I tried to install it, it popped up an error message saying it could not install because it was not the 32 bit version.  WHAT ????

    MS screws up again ?

    Again MS cares NOT !
    If I do not fit their monetary profile, then be gone !


    Does that mouse have side buttons ?

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41XAG2EXH3L._AC_SY450_.jpg

    The mouse wheel doesn't look like it tips from side to side.
    It has a long axle.

    https://www.techrepublic.com/a/hub/i/r/2007/06/16/03597008-c3bd-11e2-bc00-02911874f8c8/resize/0x577/d9427a1d48b611a898b783fbdd9207b1/88664.jpg

    You can try ctrl-scrollwheel and see if the zoom happens.
    Even the desktop can zoom, but not necessarily every part of it.
    Be careful testing at first, to count rotations, in case
    you want the mag to go back to normal again.

    The magnifier in Accessibility, is likely to be a round
    circle of "bigger stuff". And as you move the mouse cursor
    around, the circle magnifies whatever you're over the top of.
    That's a different function than the scaling the ctrl-mousewheel
    does.

    Paul

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  • From Herbert Kleebauer@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 23:01:16 2021
    On 17.11.2021 21:12, Recen wrote:
    Win XP Pro

    Control Panel Mouse does not show mouse side button so how do I get the magnifier attached to the side button.

    My vision is worsening and I need the magnifier.

    Have MS Notebook Optical 3000 Mouse.

    Try:

    https://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

    and assign <WIN>+ and <WIN><ESC> to the mouse buttons.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 22:23:19 2021
    On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 14:15:41, Recen <Recen@Recen.com> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    []
    If I type magnify at Run, I get a magnifier bar across the top of the
    desktop window but that is not easy to work with. I rather have a
    magnifier small window that moves with the mouse.
    []
    The magnifier window can be persuaded to be on other than the top of the
    screen - it can also be resized and (I think) moved. It's not (to me
    anyway) intuitive though, in particular its jumping position.
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    "If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the
    law." - Winston Churchill.

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  • From Recen@21:1/5 to Paul on Wed Nov 17 14:15:41 2021
    MS Notebook Optical Mouse 3000
    It is a USB mouse with a left side button, Scroll wheel that depresses only.

    The MS dowloaded app says during install that setup.exe is not a 32bit
    app. and then the app quits.

    If I type magnify at Run, I get a magnifier bar across the top of the
    desktop window but that is not easy to work with. I rather have a
    magnifier small window that moves with the mouse.

    I have it on other PC here.

    I cannot find a 32 bit installer and based on MS naming conventions, I
    probably never will find it on one of my other laptops.

    gobbledygook folder names and file names are a MS favorite. Idiots !

    Paul wrote:
    On 11/17/2021 3:46 PM, Recen wrote:

    I already tried that after i sent my initial post.
    I downloaded the 32 bit version.  Yes I did, 32 bit version.

    When I tried to install it, it popped up an error message saying it
    could not install because it was not the 32 bit version.  WHAT ????

    MS screws up again ?

    Again MS cares NOT !
    If I do not fit their monetary profile, then be gone !


    Does that mouse have side buttons ?

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41XAG2EXH3L._AC_SY450_.jpg

    The mouse wheel doesn't look like it tips from side to side.
    It has a long axle.

    https://www.techrepublic.com/a/hub/i/r/2007/06/16/03597008-c3bd-11e2-bc00-02911874f8c8/resize/0x577/d9427a1d48b611a898b783fbdd9207b1/88664.jpg


    You can try ctrl-scrollwheel and see if the zoom happens.
    Even the desktop can zoom,  but not necessarily every part of it.
    Be careful testing at first, to count rotations, in case
    you want the mag to go back to normal again.

    The magnifier in Accessibility, is likely to be a round
    circle of "bigger stuff". And as you move the mouse cursor
    around, the circle magnifies whatever you're over the top of.
    That's a different function than the scaling the ctrl-mousewheel
    does.

       Paul


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 18:40:37 2021
    Recen <Recen@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:

    I already tried that after i sent my initial post.
    I downloaded the 32 bit version. Yes I did, 32 bit version.

    The filename for the 32-bit download is:

    MouseKeyboardCenter_32bit_ENG_14.41.exe

    Is that the name of the file you downloaded?

    I downloaded that file and used Peazip (7-zip and other zip tools will
    work) to look inside the .exe. After drilling down into setup -> files
    driver -> point32, the files were name point32.*. Looks like the
    32-bit version.

    Do you have Windows XP 32-bit, or Windows XP 64-bit? The 32-bit version
    is Windows XP. The 64-bit version is Windows 2003 Server crippled to a workstation version, and with the Windows XP desktop GUI.

    When you run winver.exe, what does it say? Does it show "5.1", "sp3",
    and "Service Pack 3"? Lots of software require you have the latest
    service pack for Windows XP.

    https://www.fixya.com/uploads/howto/dd21429.jpg

    That shows "Windows XP Professional". The absence of "x64" means it is
    the 32-bit (normal) version.

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/R1ueBD1xvfNxSBPBPhcZj1WH1kph2lRkJOe7p5qzyD5unwHLMpYbkYxIQe691uacXDPeBYe1jq17S5VgeFaTw222_UpU-bQDQW6rXyoHgVlQwAHe

    That shows "Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" which is the frankenjob version. What does winver show you?

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  • From Paul in Houston TX@21:1/5 to Recen on Wed Nov 17 20:22:53 2021
    Recen wrote:
    Optical 3000 Mouse


    http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/mice/com3000/

    "Setup: The installation is quite simple. Just plug in the mouse which
    requires USB or PS/2 ports. To use the magnifier or to use the advanced functionality, you must install the Microsoft IntelliPoint software (see below).

    Microsoft IntelliPoint Software https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx?q=intellipoint

    It does not say so but I bet you will also need the drivers which are
    also at that website.


    If you want to customize your mouse, you will have to install
    IntelliPoint 5.3 (about 60 MB), which requires a restart. To customize
    your mouse keys, select either "Mouse" for the Control Panel or
    "Microsoft Mouse" from the program menu. On the buttons tab you can
    click on the different buttons and reassign the keys to a variety of
    functions. In this software you can also change your pointers, other
    pointer options, view which hardware is connected, change scrolling
    options, and view wireless features. The software is easy to use and is required for advanced functionality of the mouse. "

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to Paul@Houston.Texas on Thu Nov 18 14:25:02 2021
    On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 20:22:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    Recen wrote:
    Optical 3000 Mouse


    http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/mice/com3000/

    "Setup: The installation is quite simple. Just plug in the mouse which >requires USB or PS/2 ports. To use the magnifier or to use the advanced >functionality, you must install the Microsoft IntelliPoint software (see >below).

    Microsoft IntelliPoint Software
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx?q=intellipoint

    <We're sorry, this download is no longer available.>

    Then they suggest downgrading XP to Win 10.
    LOL

    Paul can probably come up with an archive.org link to the
    software.
    []'s

    It does not say so but I bet you will also need the drivers which are
    also at that website.


    If you want to customize your mouse, you will have to install
    IntelliPoint 5.3 (about 60 MB), which requires a restart. To customize
    your mouse keys, select either "Mouse" for the Control Panel or
    "Microsoft Mouse" from the program menu. On the buttons tab you can
    click on the different buttons and reassign the keys to a variety of >functions. In this software you can also change your pointers, other
    pointer options, view which hardware is connected, change scrolling
    options, and view wireless features. The software is easy to use and is >required for advanced functionality of the mouse. "
    --
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    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Shadow on Thu Nov 18 14:24:07 2021
    On 11/18/2021 12:25 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 20:22:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    Recen wrote:
    Optical 3000 Mouse


    http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/mice/com3000/

    "Setup: The installation is quite simple. Just plug in the mouse which
    requires USB or PS/2 ports. To use the magnifier or to use the advanced
    functionality, you must install the Microsoft IntelliPoint software (see
    below).

    Microsoft IntelliPoint Software
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx?q=intellipoint

    <We're sorry, this download is no longer available.>

    Then they suggest downgrading XP to Win 10.
    LOL

    Paul can probably come up with an archive.org link to the
    software.
    []'s

    Tried it, they don't got it :-)

    it's the old Confirmation link scam. Microsoft can block
    download archiving, by the usage of the intermediary
    Confirmation link thing.

    You will need to find a USENET posting with a "final" URL
    for the file. In other words, a user goes to Download manager
    in the browser, and copies out the URL after the download is
    finished. That's your last chance at it.

    Paul

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 18 19:49:54 2021
    On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:24:07 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 11/18/2021 12:25 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 20:22:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    Recen wrote:
    Optical 3000 Mouse


    http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/mice/com3000/

    "Setup: The installation is quite simple. Just plug in the mouse which
    requires USB or PS/2 ports. To use the magnifier or to use the advanced
    functionality, you must install the Microsoft IntelliPoint software (see >>> below).

    Microsoft IntelliPoint Software
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx?q=intellipoint

    <We're sorry, this download is no longer available.>

    Then they suggest downgrading XP to Win 10.
    LOL

    Paul can probably come up with an archive.org link to the
    software.
    []'s

    Tried it, they don't got it :-)

    it's the old Confirmation link scam. Microsoft can block
    download archiving, by the usage of the intermediary
    Confirmation link thing.

    You will need to find a USENET posting with a "final" URL
    for the file. In other words, a user goes to Download manager
    in the browser, and copies out the URL after the download is
    finished. That's your last chance at it.

    Paul

    Well, I don't have that mouse. Softpedia keeps a pretty decent
    archive of old drivers. Maybe the OP will find something that actually
    works here:

    <https://drivers.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=Microsoft+IntelliPoint>

    HTH
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021

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  • From Recen@21:1/5 to Shadow on Thu Dec 9 07:16:27 2021
    After a long time away on travel, I was now able to go to softpedia and
    after a lot of confusion as to which button to click I finally
    downloaded and install version 6.1 and now I have the much needed magnifier.

    Thank you !!!


    Shadow wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 14:24:07 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 11/18/2021 12:25 PM, Shadow wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 20:22:53 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
    <Paul@Houston.Texas> wrote:

    Recen wrote:
    Optical 3000 Mouse


    http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/mice/com3000/

    "Setup: The installation is quite simple. Just plug in the mouse which >>>> requires USB or PS/2 ports. To use the magnifier or to use the advanced >>>> functionality, you must install the Microsoft IntelliPoint software (see >>>> below).

    Microsoft IntelliPoint Software
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/search.aspx?q=intellipoint

    <We're sorry, this download is no longer available.>

    Then they suggest downgrading XP to Win 10.
    LOL

    Paul can probably come up with an archive.org link to the
    software.
    []'s

    Tried it, they don't got it :-)

    it's the old Confirmation link scam. Microsoft can block
    download archiving, by the usage of the intermediary
    Confirmation link thing.

    You will need to find a USENET posting with a "final" URL
    for the file. In other words, a user goes to Download manager
    in the browser, and copies out the URL after the download is
    finished. That's your last chance at it.

    Paul

    Well, I don't have that mouse. Softpedia keeps a pretty decent
    archive of old drivers. Maybe the OP will find something that actually
    works here:

    <https://drivers.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=Microsoft+IntelliPoint>

    HTH
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Recen on Thu Dec 9 15:11:39 2021
    Recen <RecentlyOrLately@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:

    After a long time away on travel, I was now able to go to softpedia
    and after a lot of confusion as to which button to click I finally
    downloaded and install version 6.1 and now I have the much needed
    magnifier.

    Softpedia pukes a lot of ad shit into their pages, especially those that
    had "Download" large green buttons to mislead users into clicking the
    wrong button. Softpedia's imdemnfication is they didn't compose the ads
    -- but they still SHOW them. They are the pipe through which the ads
    are delivered, and they choose to deliver them. Maybe the guy that
    leaves a bomb didn't make it, but he still caused your house to blow up.

    Once you install an adblocker (I use uBlock Origin), those misleading
    ads go away. Same for forums or blogs that interject ads into their
    articles: you don't get fooled that the ad is part of the article.

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