• Need windows-live-essentials-xp

    From Realist@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 15 11:00:12 2021
    http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp

    fails.

    Wayback seems to have 64bit versions.

    Where can I find the 32bit version ?

    Thank you.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Realist on Mon Nov 15 14:03:32 2021
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    Oh dear.
    I thought I was in the Win XP group.

    Oh dear.
    You thought the only visitors here are only using an archaic OS instead
    of using something newer, but they still visit here. If you command
    that only XP-using visitors here are allowed to respond (well, you
    cannot command anything of Usenet visitors), you will severely reduce
    the population of candidate respondents. See anyone else responding?

    If you knew that you couldn't go beyond the 2009 version of WLE, perhaps
    you should've mentioned that instead of having respondents discover it
    22 years later.

    I have Win XP Pro 32 bit.
    Wayback was a 404 error. File not found.

    I couldn't get the download buttons to do anything in the Wayback
    archived docs (for the couple that I tried since I wasn't going to test
    them all). They don't save every resource used in or referenced by a
    web document when they archive a web doc.

    Did you try the the Wayback page that I mentioned has the 2009 version?
    Again, that was.

    https://archive.org/details/wle.aspx

    It is a slow download, but it worked for me.

    If you are using Firefox, or just about any web browser, on Windows XP,
    you'll start noticing more and more web sites won't work with those old
    web browser versions. The sites requires features in the web client
    that those old web browsers don't have and never will. You may have to
    find a host with a newer OS version where a newer web browser version
    will work with a web site. My aunt is running into the incompatibility
    on her old Windows XP host where some sites won't work with the latest
    version of Firefox (52.0.0ESR) that supports Windows XP.

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  • From Realist@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Nov 15 11:48:20 2021
    Oh dear.
    I thought I was in the Win XP group.

    I have Win XP Pro 32 bit.

    Wayback was a 404 error. File not found.


    VanguardLH wrote:
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp

    fails. Wayback seems to have 64bit versions. Where can I find the
    32bit version ?

    Did you get the installer from here?

    https://archive.org/details/wlsetup-all_201802

    Sorry, "fails" doesn't specify much, like you couldn't find the
    download, the download failed, the install failed, or the products
    installed but failed to load, or somehow misbehaved.

    https://download.cnet.com/Windows-Live-Essentials-2012/3000-20418_4-10805747.html

    See if that gets past whatever was the failure. No mention there is the installer is for the 32- or 64-bit version of WLE, but then I suspect
    the installer does either bitwidth version based on the OS under which
    it is ran.

    An online search also found:

    https://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_live.html

    Alas, looks like you need a particular revision of WLE. The Wayback
    Machine site says "You must be running Windows 7 or later to run Windows
    Live Essentials 2012". You didn't say which "Wave" version you wanted.
    From the Wikipedia article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Essentials
    "After the release of Windows Live Essentials 2011, which does not
    support Windows XP, Windows Live Essentials 2009 was renamed to Windows
    Live Essentials for Windows XP and was made available for Windows XP
    users to help maintain the product user base."

    Looks like you have to go back 3 versions from 2012 to 2009. Maybe you
    tried installing the 2012 version, and that was what "failed". The 2009
    does not have some of the components added the later versions of WLE;
    see the wiki article. Adjusting by adding "2009 windows xp" to my
    online search, the Wayback site has:

    https://archive.org/details/wle.aspx

    You mention the http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp that
    you used at web.archive.org, but you neglected to mention which snapshot
    you used. The snapshots I used dated 2010 had a download button, but it
    was dead. From which snapshot did you manage to get a download?


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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Realist on Mon Nov 15 13:41:23 2021
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp

    fails. Wayback seems to have 64bit versions. Where can I find the
    32bit version ?

    Did you get the installer from here?

    https://archive.org/details/wlsetup-all_201802

    Sorry, "fails" doesn't specify much, like you couldn't find the
    download, the download failed, the install failed, or the products
    installed but failed to load, or somehow misbehaved.

    https://download.cnet.com/Windows-Live-Essentials-2012/3000-20418_4-10805747.html

    See if that gets past whatever was the failure. No mention there is the installer is for the 32- or 64-bit version of WLE, but then I suspect
    the installer does either bitwidth version based on the OS under which
    it is ran.

    An online search also found:

    https://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_live.html

    Alas, looks like you need a particular revision of WLE. The Wayback
    Machine site says "You must be running Windows 7 or later to run Windows
    Live Essentials 2012". You didn't say which "Wave" version you wanted.
    From the Wikipedia article:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Essentials
    "After the release of Windows Live Essentials 2011, which does not
    support Windows XP, Windows Live Essentials 2009 was renamed to Windows
    Live Essentials for Windows XP and was made available for Windows XP
    users to help maintain the product user base."

    Looks like you have to go back 3 versions from 2012 to 2009. Maybe you
    tried installing the 2012 version, and that was what "failed". The 2009
    does not have some of the components added the later versions of WLE;
    see the wiki article. Adjusting by adding "2009 windows xp" to my
    online search, the Wayback site has:

    https://archive.org/details/wle.aspx

    You mention the http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials-xp that
    you used at web.archive.org, but you neglected to mention which snapshot
    you used. The snapshots I used dated 2010 had a download button, but it
    was dead. From which snapshot did you manage to get a download?

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  • From Realist@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Nov 15 12:11:29 2021
    FYI I use MyPal and it works for much more than Firefox (including
    videos on Amazon etc).

    I that OK ?


    VanguardLH wrote:
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    Oh dear.
    I thought I was in the Win XP group.

    Oh dear.
    You thought the only visitors here are only using an archaic OS instead
    of using something newer, but they still visit here. If you command
    that only XP-using visitors here are allowed to respond (well, you
    cannot command anything of Usenet visitors), you will severely reduce
    the population of candidate respondents. See anyone else responding?

    If you knew that you couldn't go beyond the 2009 version of WLE, perhaps
    you should've mentioned that instead of having respondents discover it
    22 years later.

    I have Win XP Pro 32 bit.
    Wayback was a 404 error. File not found.

    I couldn't get the download buttons to do anything in the Wayback
    archived docs (for the couple that I tried since I wasn't going to test
    them all). They don't save every resource used in or referenced by a
    web document when they archive a web doc.

    Did you try the the Wayback page that I mentioned has the 2009 version? Again, that was.

    https://archive.org/details/wle.aspx

    It is a slow download, but it worked for me.

    If you are using Firefox, or just about any web browser, on Windows XP, you'll start noticing more and more web sites won't work with those old
    web browser versions. The sites requires features in the web client
    that those old web browsers don't have and never will. You may have to
    find a host with a newer OS version where a newer web browser version
    will work with a web site. My aunt is running into the incompatibility
    on her old Windows XP host where some sites won't work with the latest version of Firefox (52.0.0ESR) that supports Windows XP.


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  • From Realist@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 15 11:59:38 2021
    Hooray !
    https://archive.org/details/wle.aspx

    Installed and running the simple and easy photo editor Windows Live
    Photo Gallery !

    THANKS !

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Nov 15 14:10:49 2021
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    If you knew that you couldn't go beyond the 2009 version of WLE, perhaps
    you should've mentioned that instead of having respondents discover it
    22 years later.

    Er, bad math. 12 years later. Time for some more coffee.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Realist on Mon Nov 15 14:39:58 2021
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    If you are using Firefox, or just about any web browser, on Windows
    XP, you'll start noticing more and more web sites won't work with
    those old web browser versions. The sites requires features in the
    web client that those old web browsers don't have and never will.
    You may have to find a host with a newer OS version where a newer
    web browser version will work with a web site. My aunt is running
    into the incompatibility on her old Windows XP host where some sites
    won't work with the latest version of Firefox (52.0.0ESR) that
    supports Windows XP.

    FYI I use MyPal and it works for much more than Firefox (including
    videos on Amazon etc).

    I that OK ?

    I've never tested MyPal. Looks like it might work; however, can you
    modify the User-Agent string it sends to the server (whether by internal settings, or by using an extension)? Some sites still inspect that
    header to determine which web browser is visiting their site, especially
    if they need to use a different code branch to support who the web
    browser claims it is. MyPal is forked from Pale Moon which was forked
    from pre-Quantum codebase for Firefox. You may have to lie to web sites
    that you're using a more recent web browser. However, lying about the webclient's ID doesn't give it features available in later versions of
    web browser. Changing the UA string won't work around incompatibility
    issues, but may work around simple testing of webclient version.

    https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/parse/1090471mypal-windows-goanna

    That says MyPal has "MyPal" in the User Agent. Unlikely sites will know
    that web client. You may have to use an extension to change the UA
    string to a known or more common web browser at a later version.

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  • From Realist@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Mon Nov 15 15:02:34 2021
    I thought I read somewhere that the spoof string could be changed.

    For me, Firefox version that works on Win XP Pro but does not play
    videos. MyPal does play those videos. So that is sufficient for me.
    Also, I have not had any website balk at MyPal. Been using MyPal for 9
    months.



    VanguardLH wrote:
    Realist <Realist@Realist.com> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    If you are using Firefox, or just about any web browser, on Windows
    XP, you'll start noticing more and more web sites won't work with
    those old web browser versions. The sites requires features in the
    web client that those old web browsers don't have and never will.
    You may have to find a host with a newer OS version where a newer
    web browser version will work with a web site. My aunt is running
    into the incompatibility on her old Windows XP host where some sites
    won't work with the latest version of Firefox (52.0.0ESR) that
    supports Windows XP.

    FYI I use MyPal and it works for much more than Firefox (including
    videos on Amazon etc).

    I that OK ?

    I've never tested MyPal. Looks like it might work; however, can you
    modify the User-Agent string it sends to the server (whether by internal settings, or by using an extension)? Some sites still inspect that
    header to determine which web browser is visiting their site, especially
    if they need to use a different code branch to support who the web
    browser claims it is. MyPal is forked from Pale Moon which was forked
    from pre-Quantum codebase for Firefox. You may have to lie to web sites
    that you're using a more recent web browser. However, lying about the webclient's ID doesn't give it features available in later versions of
    web browser. Changing the UA string won't work around incompatibility issues, but may work around simple testing of webclient version.

    https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/parse/1090471mypal-windows-goanna

    That says MyPal has "MyPal" in the User Agent. Unlikely sites will know
    that web client. You may have to use an extension to change the UA
    string to a known or more common web browser at a later version.


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