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    From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 7 17:51:39 2023
    I just wanted to post this to see if I had
    a problem you would respond.

    As an example; I'm afraid to open up the
    computers and vacuum for fear something
    may happen and I would need your help.

    Thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Robert in CA on Tue Jul 11 03:09:33 2023
    On 7/7/2023 8:51 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
    I just wanted to post this to see if I had
    a problem you would respond.

    As an example; I'm afraid to open up the
    computers and vacuum for fear something
    may happen and I would need your help.

    Thanks,
    Robert


    AIOE is gone. Mixmin is gone. Netfront.net is gone (read-only).

    I only have one server left, to reach this group.

    Paul

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Paul on Tue Jul 11 09:20:31 2023
    On 11/07/2023 08:09, Paul wrote:
    On 7/7/2023 8:51 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
    I just wanted to post this to see if I had
    a problem you would respond.

    As an example; I'm afraid to open up the
    computers and vacuum for fear something
    may happen and I would need your help.

    Thanks,
    Robert


    AIOE is gone. Mixmin is gone. Netfront.net is gone (read-only).

    I only have one server left, to reach this group.

       Paul

    Blocknews works just fine - and costs peanuts!

    https://blocknews.net

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  • From Barry@LOL.com@21:1/5 to magineer02@yahoo.com on Tue Jul 11 14:57:37 2023
    On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:29:31 -0700 (PDT), Robert in CA
    <magineer02@yahoo.com> wrote:


    Hello Paul,,

    Thankfully, you responded!

    I thought I would never hear from you again.
    I did try Mixmin as you suggested awhile back
    but couldn't get it to work but as you say it's
    gone also. What about blocknews as suggested?

    I don't have problems with the computers and I continue
    to runs scans daily and do the mrimgs. (attached log) but
    as I said I was afraid to open up the computers and vacuum
    them with the mini-vacuum for fear something might happen
    and I couldn't reach you for help.

    https://postimg.cc/SjG1VqKY

    So should I go ahead and do it?

    Thanks,
    Robert

    Here's a page to read first.

    https://superuser.com/questions/344811/safety-of-opening-a-psu

    You can of course open the PSU, but you must observe some precautions.
    First (obviously), unplug the unit. Leave it unplugged for 15 minutes
    or so. In most PSUs there are bleeder resistors that will bleed down
    the stored voltages inside over time BUT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES!!

    When you open the unit, understand that there are two hazards:

    Stored high voltage (200V or so) on the "input" side of the unit.
    Stored high currents (tens of amps) on the "output" side of the unit.

    The high voltage represents an electrocution hazard. The high current represents a burn hazard should something metal (such as your ring or watchband) touch the wrong terminals.

    If you just need to move/secure a loose wire, you should be able to do
    that without touching any bare wires or terminals inside the box. If
    necessary use an insulating stick (eg, a tongue depressor or
    chopstick) to probe and move things around. Be wary of using something
    like a pencil (the lead is conductive) or a ball-point pen (which has
    a metal tip and often other metal parts). And, of course, screwdrivers
    are almost always metal and a hazard inside.

    Be sure to close the unit back up before you apply power again. It's
    too easy to "jump ahead" and apply power with the unit open, then
    "remember something" and reach inside the live unit without thinking.

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 12:25:17 2023
    Hello Paul,,

    Thankfully, you responded!

    I thought I would never hear from you again.
    I did try Mixmin as you suggested awhile back
    but couldn't get it to work but as you say it's
    gone also. What about blocknews as suggested?

    I don't have problems with the computers and I continue
    to runs scans daily and do the mrimgs. (attached log) but
    as I said I was afraid to open up the computers and vacuum
    them with the mini-vacuum for fear something might happen
    and I couldn't reach you for help.

    https://postimg.cc/XGQhr8MY

    So should I go ahead and do it?

    Thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 12:29:31 2023
    Hello Paul,,

    Thankfully, you responded!

    I thought I would never hear from you again.
    I did try Mixmin as you suggested awhile back
    but couldn't get it to work but as you say it's
    gone also. What about blocknews as suggested?

    I don't have problems with the computers and I continue
    to runs scans daily and do the mrimgs. (attached log) but
    as I said I was afraid to open up the computers and vacuum
    them with the mini-vacuum for fear something might happen
    and I couldn't reach you for help.

    https://postimg.cc/SjG1VqKY

    So should I go ahead and do it?

    Thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 17:38:07 2023
    I know AIOE is gone because I saw your initial post
    about it being down and never coming back. I tried
    SeaMonkey recently just to check and you're right it's
    down. Why is all this happening? What if this site goes
    down as well ? How would we stay in touch in case I
    needed help? or downloads,.. you know my history.

    I may be naive but I thought there were lots of computer
    forums like this where we could stay in touch?

    As for blocknews I realized it's not feasible because I
    would only use it for computer problems.


    Thankfully, the computers are running well,...

    Robert

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 17:25:02 2023
    Thanks for all the good advice and I appreciate it but I have opened
    both computers many times but Paul understands my concern because
    it seems when I do things I seem to get problems from nowhere. He's
    helped me out many times in the past and designed my backup system
    for me.

    Thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Barry@LOL.com@21:1/5 to magineer02@yahoo.com on Tue Jul 11 20:59:13 2023
    On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 17:38:07 -0700 (PDT), Robert in CA
    <magineer02@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I know AIOE is gone because I saw your initial post
    about it being down and never coming back. I tried
    SeaMonkey recently just to check and you're right it's
    down. Why is all this happening? What if this site goes
    down as well ? How would we stay in touch in case I
    needed help? or downloads,.. you know my history.

    I may be naive but I thought there were lots of computer
    forums like this where we could stay in touch?

    As for blocknews I realized it's not feasible because I
    would only use it for computer problems.


    Thankfully, the computers are running well,...

    Robert

    I buy blocks of Usenet from sites which sell them.

    I paid $25 for 90 gigabytes of Usenet usage some years back. I'm still
    using it. They have well over 100,000 groups for access - reading and
    posting, and that includes binary posts to music or pic groups, etc.

    Paying a monthly fee is ridiculous for Usenet access.

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 00:05:39 2023
    I'm going to proceed and use my mini-vacuum
    and do the 780 first then will do the 8500.

    If I run into any problems I will let you know.

    thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Robert in CA on Wed Jul 12 07:03:49 2023
    On 7/11/2023 8:25 PM, Robert in CA wrote:
    Thanks for all the good advice and I appreciate it but I have opened
    both computers many times but Paul understands my concern because
    it seems when I do things I seem to get problems from nowhere. He's
    helped me out many times in the past and designed my backup system
    for me.

    Thanks,
    Robert


    I don't think you're opening the PSU :-)
    At least, I don't recollect you being
    interested in what is inside there.

    The rest of a computer case is low
    voltage DC (ranging from -12V to +12V).

    It's really hard to quantify the static discharge risk.

    Static electricity can be created by both
    sucking (vacuum) and blowing (Dust Off can).
    The reason this is the case, is the dust,
    when it travels over plastic surfaces,
    does a bit of static charge transfer, and
    that's how static electricity gets placed on
    stuff.

    An ESD vac hose, provides a 1 megohm conductive
    path to ground, and this acts to slow the
    discharge rate, if the hose touches plastic
    which is charged.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Robert in CA on Wed Jul 12 07:07:53 2023
    On 7/12/2023 3:05 AM, Robert in CA wrote:
    I'm going to proceed and use my mini-vacuum
    and do the 780 first then will do the 8500.

    If I run into any problems I will let you know.

    thanks,
    Robert


    If at some point I stop responding, then that would
    be my last path to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general breaking...

    Paul

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 17:44:35 2023
    Correct, I'm not opening the PSU, just cleaning the
    inside of the case. Very carefully.

    I did the 780 and I have to admit I was a little
    disappointed in the mini-vacuum. It didn't have
    much suction as I thought it would but it did a
    OK job on the grilles and hard to reach areas.
    I tried to not touch any surface except once to
    use the brush attachment.

    I did try and clean the fan blades and used my
    paint brush and q-tips dipped in simple green to
    remove the bigger dust pieces. I also cleaned the
    back panel. After I was done I reconnected it and
    powered it up to make sure all was well.

    I will be extra careful with the 8500 tomorrow and
    let you know how it goes.

    I understand, but I sure would hate to loose contact.
    You've helped me allot in the past! I hope you keep
    responding, especially if I have a problem or need to
    replace the PSU at some point with one of my spares.
    Thankfully, we took care of the start button. That was
    an elegant solution.

    p.s. btw it has nothing to do with the computer but remember
    my cassette deck with the hinged door that wouldn't open?
    Well, I was messing around with it trying to set the time/tuner
    etc and hit the sleep button by accident and it opened up! So
    the 'Open' button must be faulty.

    Many thanks for all your good help
    Robert

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 13 13:43:38 2023
    I cleaned the 8500; it was pretty dirty and took some time but
    the mini-vac did an excellent job cleaning it. I also did the back
    panel with all the connections. Then reconnected it and powered
    it up to see if all was well.

    It started with no problems or issues and is pretty quiet and everything
    is working normally.

    I did have one question,. even if you loose your server that connects to https://groups.google.com/g/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
    could you not still check the site and post? That's what I've done since
    AIOE and all the rest went down.

    Why are they all folding? Does this have something to do with Twitter, Facebook, MSM ? Who owned AIOE ?

    Anyways, all is well and the computers seem to be OK

    Many thanks,
    Robert

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  • From Robert in CA@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 27 16:39:31 2023
    Paul,

    Please respond.

    Thanks,
    Robert

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