Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware. Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware. Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
RecentlyOrLately wrote:
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware.
Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
View the hosts file (no extension). Malware can leave entries there
that anti-virus cleanup doesn't remove (it won't know if the malware
added the entries, or you did). Malware often doesn't want you visiting anti-virus/malware sites to keep you from completely removing them.
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
In the web browser, what URL is in its address bar when you attempt to
visit the malwarebytes.com web site?
https://www.malwarebytes.com/
is left in the address bar.
Tried Seamonkey, same results.
Went to MajorGeeks and found link to Malwarebytes, clicked it and it
also failed.
Put C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts in Explorer and it opened a
dialog and opened Notepad.
shows
127.0.0.1 www.Brenz.pl
127.0.0.1 localhost
What is Brenz.pl ?
# it out and testing.
VanguardLH wrote:
RecentlyOrLately wrote:
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware.
Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
View the hosts file (no extension). Malware can leave entries there
that anti-virus cleanup doesn't remove (it won't know if the malware
added the entries, or you did). Malware often doesn't want you visiting
anti-virus/malware sites to keep you from completely removing them.
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
In the web browser, what URL is in its address bar when you attempt to
visit the malwarebytes.com web site?
Currently Malwarebytes
1.70.0.1100
e.g. cannot access
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware. >Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
RecentlyOrLately,
e.g. cannot access
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
Try entering http://108.156.60.20 or https://108.156.60.20 (I used "ping www.malwarebytes.com" to get that IP) and see what you get. If you do get something it might just be the DNS service thats messed up.
I don't know how to fix it, but at least than you've got something to google for.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
e.g. cannot access
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:04:46 -0700, RecentlyOrLately <RecentlyOrLately@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware.
Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
Forget all that "Malware" and AV crap. Install a simple sandbox like
Time Freeze from ToolWiz - a freebie with no nags, and have everything
that was downloaded by you or by some site dumped from your C: when
you reboot.
I've been using it for a few years without any of that "Security" crap
with no problems. Besides, Malwarebytes is crap.
On 6/14/2022 3:55 PM, luke@invalid.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 10:04:46 -0700, RecentlyOrLately
<RecentlyOrLately@RecentlyOrLately.com> wrote:
Win XP pro on a Lenovo T500 laptop.
Trying to find the latest Malwarebytes that will work with Win XP.
I have an old version that found and supposedly removed some malware.
Rebooted.
Every time I attempt to go to the Malwarebytes webpages I get a browser
error of server not found. Firefox or My Pal both fail.
Suggestions please.
Forget all that "Malware" and AV crap. Install a simple sandbox like
Time Freeze from ToolWiz - a freebie with no nags, and have everything
that was downloaded by you or by some site dumped from your C: when
you reboot.
I've been using it for a few years without any of that "Security" crap
with no problems. Besides, Malwarebytes is crap.
If this is the LetsEncrypt problem, he's pretty close to being
cut off from the Internet. A sandbox won't help him now.
Thoughts and prayers might.
Paul
https://www.malwarebytes.com/
is left in the address bar.
Tried Seamonkey, same results.
Went to MajorGeeks and found link to Malwarebytes, clicked it and it
also failed.
Put C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts in Explorer and it opened a
dialog and opened Notepad.
shows
127.0.0.1 www.Brenz.pl
127.0.0.1 localhost
What is Brenz.pl ?
# it out and testing.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/
is left in the address bar.
Tried Seamonkey, same results.
Went to MajorGeeks and found link to Malwarebytes, clicked it and it also failed.
Put C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts in Explorer and it opened a dialog and opened Notepad.
shows
127.0.0.1 www.Brenz.pl
127.0.0.1 localhost
What is Brenz.pl ?
# it out and testing.
My point was that if he uses what I suggested, he wouldn't have all
those "malware" problems. Those damn AV and "Security" programs have
gotten so invasive they can be more treacherous than some malware.
I found that out the hard way using some of those damn "Security"
programs. People have been brainwashed into using all that "Security"
crap - and that includes many of those untrustworthy AV programs.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:40:56 -0500, luke@invalid.com wrote:
My point was that if he uses what I suggested, he wouldn't have all
those "malware" problems. Those damn AV and "Security" programs have
gotten so invasive they can be more treacherous than some malware.
I found that out the hard way using some of those damn "Security"
programs. People have been brainwashed into using all that "Security"
crap - and that includes many of those untrustworthy AV programs.
There's really no point on convincing people not to use AVs, since most of >them are just clueless about security. They have no choice but to rely on >AVs. And it is their choice if they don't want to educate themselves.
AV companies know this, and they simply take advantage of it.
Back in the old days, AVs used to be capable and honest. But it all started >going worse when they stopped providing the ability to cure virus infected >programs, and instead, simply delete the infected programs. Nowaday, AVs are >disruptive enough in daily tasks - making them to behave just like malwares >but posing as AVs. Malwares which are glorified by the public. They're >nothing more than smarter malwares which are worse than common malwares.
But AVs aren't the only one to blame, it's the malware/virus writes which >should be blamed, because they're the ones who started all these mess. And I >don't think the punishment by law for making malware/virus is heavy/severe >enough, considering that the digital world has become crucial in our life.
<luke@invalid.com> wrote
| That's why I said to hell with the whole "Security" thing. I don't
| expect hardly anyone to go to the Toolwiz page -
| http://www.toolwiz.com/lead/toolwiz_time_freeze/
|
That's a clunky method for dummies. Like system restore.
It uses a lot of space and processing power. Meanwhile,
there's no security. You've only got data backup. If you've
got malware stealing your credit card info online you'll never
know.
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:54:02 -0400, "Mayayana"
<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
<luke@invalid.com> wrote
| That's why I said to hell with the whole "Security" thing. I don't
| expect hardly anyone to go to the Toolwiz page -
| http://www.toolwiz.com/lead/toolwiz_time_freeze/
|
That's a clunky method for dummies. Like system restore.
It uses a lot of space and processing power. Meanwhile,
there's no security. You've only got data backup. If you've
got malware stealing your credit card info online you'll never
know.
That's a bunch of deceitful half truths I won't even bother
answering.
On 6/16/2022 5:08 PM, luke@invalid.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:54:02 -0400, "Mayayana"
<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
<luke@invalid.com> wrote
| That's why I said to hell with the whole "Security" thing. I don't
| expect hardly anyone to go to the Toolwiz page -
| http://www.toolwiz.com/lead/toolwiz_time_freeze/
|
That's a clunky method for dummies. Like system restore.
It uses a lot of space and processing power. Meanwhile,
there's no security. You've only got data backup. If you've
got malware stealing your credit card info online you'll never
know.
That's a bunch of deceitful half truths I won't even bother
answering.
A review from 2012.
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/toolwiz-time-freeze.4045005/
"I would recommend having a good image of your system before trying this
program out as I will likely reload it in a bit...after some more testing
of this program. I can't recommended it at this point however."
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/toolwiz-time-freeze.313299/page-30
Aug 21, 2021
"Toowiz TimeFreeze and Shadow Defender is a No , Don't do it ..use 1 or the other not both.. "
I'm not finding reviews by sites like Tomshardware or the like for this.
Paul
<luke@invalid.com> wrote
| > That's a clunky method for dummies. Like system restore.
| >It uses a lot of space and processing power. Meanwhile,
| >there's no security. You've only got data backup. If you've
| >got malware stealing your credit card info online you'll never
| >know.
| >
|
| That's a bunch of deceitful half truths I won't even bother
| answering.
Emotional. It sounds like you own the company. Disk image
backup has been around for years. Backing up only changes
has also been around for years. I use disk image backup myself,
storing images of Windows with software installed. I also use
redundant disks for ongoing backup, and DVD backup. But
that's just backup. And your program is just an extreme of that,
blocking most file changes. I suppose a Linux boot OS would
also work that way. Clunky, but it will work.
Security is a different issue. It wouldn't make sense to trust
a program like TimeFreeze to block all malware when you're
nt making an effort to stop it getting onto your
machine in the first place.
Beyond that there
are other issues. For example, if you willingly install a program
that's spyware and don't have a firewall program to block it,
your Freezer won't help.
If you allow script in your browser,
TimeFreeze *might* prevent downloading ransomware, but it
won't help with your credit card number being stolen in transit
or from websites.
what you type into forms could be read by numerous spy/ad
companies.
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec22fall_senol.pdf
Then there are issues like the person last week who stole
credit card data from Amazon in hopes of being a hero
whisteblower.
All of that is part of security. Personally, I think life is too short
to lock myself out of my own computer with clunky sandboxes in
order to stop malware, but it could be a partial help if you don't
mind the hassle...
Sorry to saddle you with so many interesting half-truths. But
that's what I was trying to say: Your approach might help but
it's for people who don't want to deal with the issue.
It's like using uBlock Origin extension for privacy. It's a lot
better than nothing, but people use it because they don't want
any hassles, and they don't want to have to understand all the
details. They install uBO and then go to read their gmail.
That's not privacy.
Time Freeze *does* keep malware from getting into
the machine. Look it up again how a sandbox works.
luke,
Time Freeze *does* keep malware from getting into
the machine. Look it up again how a sandbox works.
Luke, if you have no clue what the difference between a sandbox and a
product like "Time Freeze" is you should really refrain from opening your >mouth. At all.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
luke,
Time Freeze *does* keep malware from getting into
the machine. Look it up again how a sandbox works.
Luke, if you have no clue what the difference between a sandbox and a
product like "Time Freeze" is you should really refrain from opening your mouth. At all.
FYI, a sandbox tries to put a wall between the sand /in/ the box and the world /outside/ it. As such *it shields* the OS, its connections with the outside world and its attached hardware from being communicated with -
unless you configure otherwise.
A product like "Time Freeze" ? All it does is *restoring some files* when you tell it to. And as mayayana tried to explain to you, in the mean time any malware that gets loaded is free to do as it pleases.
And yes, that includes calling home with whatever tasty bits it can find on your HDs, accessing your printers and other hardware, even zombifying your machine to send massive loads of spam, DDOSing other machines and so on.
tl;dr:
You are suggesting Mayayana to read up on stuff ? I suggest you do that yourself.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Keep playing with words, wannabe tekkies.
The final fact is that Time Freeze works.
Time Freeze - With sandbox mode
This farce of a "discussion" is over.
It seems to be an overlay file system, and these may be
referred to as "Internet Cafe" software or "Public Library"
software, such as the version my library uses.
As far as I know, they're not necessarily bulletproof,
because library computers do occasionally need to be
nuked and paved.
If I have my facts straight, according to the noted linguist
and silly word expert, VanguardLH, a noob is someone lacking
experience,
while a willfully ignorant person is referred to as a "boob"
in family-friendy newsgroups. (From the Middle English "boobe",
to act like a breast, originally derived from the Latin
"dipshit".)
A novice is a noob, or newb, or newbie.
Boob Tube referred to TV and the idea that it made people
stupid.
This interesting link indicates entirely separate origins
for the two meanings of the word:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/boob
Your English literacy is remarkable.
You want a word for a stubborn novice who doesn't want to learn? I'm not
sure there's a single word for that. I guess there should be. Hardheaded. Pigheaded. But of > course those are adjectives. "Youth" comes close. :)
There's a famous quote from Mark Twain that goes something
like: "When I was 14 I couldn't believe what a fool my father was.
By the time I was 21, I was amazed how much the old man had
learned in just a few years."
My own father used to have that taped to his refrigerator,
letting us know that he still resented his expertise not
being valued by his upstart offspring....
I guess "upstart" is a good word, but it really refers to someone
who has attained some kind of power beyond their wisdom.
I don't think it was ever in fashion, so I'm not
sure people will understand you.
There's a lot of that these days. It seems to be
loosely based on a theory that if you sink all other
ships, your own will end up floating the highest.
So the kids grow up thinking that tantrums are an important
life skill.
What are the mothers thinking? Beats me. They seem to
believe that their unfailing service to their little princes
and princesses demonstrates their dedication as mothers.
More fun words:
Whippersnapper. Somewhat archaic, but it basically means
a wiseass young person. Disrespectful and always having a
comeback. I'm fond of "wiseacre", but that word
is not widely known in the modern dialect. It refers to someone
who talks a lot, with gravity, about nothing much. Like political >commentators on TV. Or self-appointed experts.
My thesaurus lists wiseacre under "ignoramus" and whippersnapper
under a subcategory of "infant".
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