• [Samba] Error in https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/User_Home_Folders

    From Rowland Penny via samba@21:1/5 to Marc Muehlfeld on Tue Mar 7 21:40:02 2017
    On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 21:05:44 +0100
    Marc Muehlfeld <mmuehlfeld@samba.org> wrote:

    The next time, please say

    This is email, I know what I meant, but you didn't, so I must try
    harder next time.

    the button shown on the screenshot does not exist on Win7 and
    the share permission for Authenticated User is incorrect.
    instead of
    the entire page seems wrong.

    It's very frustrating if you spend 8 hours writing such an
    instruction and get this kind of feedback. (Yes, that's the amount of
    time I need for a doc of this size and complexity including testing.)

    I understand how you feel, but don't get discouraged, any feedback is
    better than no feedback, people only tend to say something if there is
    a perceived problem and then only if they can be bothered to.

    Rowland




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  • From Rowland Penny via samba@21:1/5 to Marc Muehlfeld via samba on Tue Mar 7 21:40:01 2017
    On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 21:04:42 +0100
    Marc Muehlfeld via samba <samba@lists.samba.org> wrote:

    Am 07.03.2017 um 20:03 schrieb Bart Coninckx via samba:
    To me they seem screenshots of a more recent Windows version,
    like Windows 2012 or 2016 server, or Windows 10 client.

    It's Windows 10. When I rewrite or update pages with Win7/8
    screenshots, I replace them with ones from the latest Windows client
    version. I think it makes more sense than using screenshots from
    older version.

    Why ? People like win7 more than win 10, Microsoft even tried bribing
    users to upgrade by giving win10 away. I can have any version of
    windows I like, but I default to win7



    Maybe the wiki needs to be extended with pages for each
    OS version ...

    We should really not have individual pages for each OS version. We
    still have duplicated content in the Wiki and I do my best to get rid
    of it. Duplicate content is very hard to maintain and often
    inconsistent. Often it is updated only on one place. We had a lot of
    such cases in our documentation.

    It is all very well getting rid of duplicate content, but as they say, a picture says more than a thousand words, but the picture must be
    relevant to the users OS.


    If steps or procedures differ in Windows versions, we should of
    course mention the differences. However, not for versions, MS no
    longer supports, such as WinXP. Mostly it's enough to add just one
    sentence to make clear what's different. That's better than having instructions for each OS.

    The problem is, how do you describe the difference without a picture ?

    Rowland

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  • From =?utf-8?Q?Bart_Coninckx?= via samba@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 7 22:50:01 2017
    The next time, please say
    the button shown on the screenshot does not exist on Win7 and
    the share permission for Authenticated User is incorrect.
    instead of
    the entire page seems wrong.

    It's very frustrating if you spend 8 hours writing such an instruction
    and get this kind of feedback. (Yes, that's the amount of time I need
    for a doc of this size and complexity including testing.)

    I just mentioned this because it's not the first time I read such
    comments. This really frustrates me, makes me thinking that I'm wasting
    a lot of my spare time, and often keeps me away from writing new content
    for a while.

    Regards,
    Marc

    Hi,

     
    I was the one suggesting the Windows 7 info.

    Please do not take these suggestions as a token of ingratitude, they were a mere expression of the desire for completeness. In fact, I was able to find the correct Windows 7 settings by looking at the Windows 10 info. 

    We should all acknowledge the effort some people make in the open source field, especially as these efforts are rarely compensated in monetary ways. 

    Maybe we should call upon more volunteers to do stuff like adding wiki info.

     
     
    BC

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  • From Marc Muehlfeld via samba@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 8 00:10:02 2017
    Hi Bart,

    Am 07.03.2017 um 22:47 schrieb Bart Coninckx via samba:
    I was the one suggesting the Windows 7 info.

    Please do not take these suggestions as a token of ingratitude,
    they were a mere expression of the desire for completeness.
    In fact, I was able to find the correct Windows 7 settings
    by looking at the Windows 10 info.

    Don't worry. I wasn't complaining about your post. You reported an
    mistake in the guide. I really appreciate this and directly fixed it in
    the doc.

    My reply regarding your suggestion about having individual pages for
    each Windows version was just to tell why we should avoid this.

    My frustration came up by a different comment in this thread.

    Regards,
    Marc

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  • From Lin Pro via samba@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 00:00:02 2017
    Forgive me to interject a question relating to the page. It is not clear if User_Home_Folders can be set for a Samba Standalone. Specifically how
    to "Assign a user to a Home Folder" in a standalone sever.
    There is a mention how to do that from AD DC, NT-4 style and from
    within Samba AD DC via ldbedit. Nothing about standalone. Is it
    possible at all?

    thanks

    best regards
    linforpros

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  • From Marc Muehlfeld via samba@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 10 07:50:01 2017
    Hi Lin,

    Am 08.03.2017 um 23:53 schrieb Lin Pro via samba:
    Forgive me to interject a question relating to the page. It is not clear if User_Home_Folders can be set for a Samba Standalone. Specifically how
    to "Assign a user to a Home Folder" in a standalone sever.
    There is a mention how to do that from AD DC, NT-4 style and from
    within Samba AD DC via ldbedit. Nothing about standalone. Is it
    possible at all?

    Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, this was missing in the docs.

    And here it is: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/User_Home_Folders#In_a_Non-domain_Environment


    Regads,
    Marc

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