Hi,

I think we should add a new bug resolution that would more precisely
cover closing bugs due to packages being removed. Right now, whichever resolution we use (be it WONTFIX, OBSOLETE, etc.), we aren't able to
easily distinguish whether the resolution was used "normally" or due to
last rites.

Having a dedicated resolution (technical name RESO/PKGREMOVED) would
make this clear. Furthermore, it would make it easier to reopen bugs
if the packages are ever reintroduced.

WDYT?

--
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 12:03:52PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:

Hi,

I think we should add a new bug resolution that would more precisely
cover closing bugs due to packages being removed. Right now, whichever resolution we use (be it WONTFIX, OBSOLETE, etc.), we aren't able to
easily distinguish whether the resolution was used "normally" or due to
last rites.

Having a dedicated resolution (technical name RESO/PKGREMOVED) would
make this clear. Furthermore, it would make it easier to reopen bugs
if the packages are ever reintroduced.

WDYT?

Sounds like it could be useful (that or some other way to identify
these if preferred), but think something that's missing either way
would be a way to automate/streamline it preferably without scripts.
Like additional actions for commit summaries (aka like 'Closes:').

In general think not many want to use bugz or do it manually on
removal. So these are often not even closed WONTFIX/OBSOLETE but
rather as FIXED through 'Closes:' regardless of what the devmanual
says (currently it instructs to do WONTFIX).
--
ionen

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Ionen Wolkens <ionen@gentoo.org> writes:

[[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 12:03:52PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:

Hi,

I think we should add a new bug resolution that would more precisely
cover closing bugs due to packages being removed. Right now, whichever
resolution we use (be it WONTFIX, OBSOLETE, etc.), we aren't able to
easily distinguish whether the resolution was used "normally" or due to
last rites.

Having a dedicated resolution (technical name RESO/PKGREMOVED) would
make this clear. Furthermore, it would make it easier to reopen bugs
if the packages are ever reintroduced.

WDYT?

Sounds like it could be useful (that or some other way to identify
these if preferred), but think something that's missing either way
would be a way to automate/streamline it preferably without scripts.
Like additional actions for commit summaries (aka like 'Closes:').

In general think not many want to use bugz or do it manually on
removal. So these are often not even closed WONTFIX/OBSOLETE but
rather as FIXED through 'Closes:' regardless of what the devmanual
says (currently it instructs to do WONTFIX).

Agreed. I like the idea, but for me, it's a non-starter unless we commit
to doing this (some bug tag like 'Removed:' or 'Last-rited:' or w/e for commits) as well. It ends up being asked to be ignored/forgotten otherwise.

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