• [gentoo-user] Radeon navi cards and opencl

    From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 30 17:10:02 2021
    Hello list,

    Does anyone know whether AMD intend to make their navi cards usable with
    opencl under Linux? I have a Radeon Pro W5500, which is a navi 14 card, and from what I can see neither rocm-opencl nor amdgpu-pro-opencl can drive it.

    Rather spoils the point of upgrading to it.

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    Regards,
    Peter.

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 31 18:00:02 2021
    On Monday, 30 August 2021 16:08:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
    Hello list,

    Does anyone know whether AMD intend to make their navi cards usable with opencl under Linux? I have a Radeon Pro W5500, which is a navi 14 card, and from what I can see neither rocm-opencl nor amdgpu-pro-opencl can drive it.

    Rather spoils the point of upgrading to it.

    AMD have published Linux drivers on their website, but in RPM and .deb
    formats. I tried one anyway, but installation stops immediately with 'unsupported OS'. Not surprising, of course, but is there any way of porting and archive full of .debs so that it can be used in Gentoo?

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    Regards,
    Peter.

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  • From David M. Fellows@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 31 19:00:03 2021
    On Monday, 30 August 2021 16:08:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
    Hello list,

    Does anyone know whether AMD intend to make their navi cards usable with
    opencl under Linux? I have a Radeon Pro W5500, which is a navi 14 card, and >> from what I can see neither rocm-opencl nor amdgpu-pro-opencl can drive it. >>
    Rather spoils the point of upgrading to it.

    AMD have published Linux drivers on their website, but in RPM and .deb >formats. I tried one anyway, but installation stops immediately with >'unsupported OS'. Not surprising, of course, but is there any way of porting >and archive full of .debs so that it can be used in Gentoo?

    app-arch/deb2targz
    app-arch/rpm2targz
    perhaps?
    And you get to keep all the pieces if the expected APIs do not match the
    actual APIs. :)
    DaveF


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    Regards,
    Peter.





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  • From Matt Connell (Gmail)@21:1/5 to Peter Humphrey on Tue Aug 31 19:30:02 2021
    On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 16:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
    AMD have published Linux drivers on their website, but in RPM and .deb formats. I tried one anyway, but installation stops immediately with 'unsupported OS'. Not surprising, of course, but is there any way of porting and archive full of .debs so that it can be used in Gentoo?

    Lots of portage ebuild files make use of vendor-published .deb / .rpm
    files, manipulating them to install files in the Gentoo-style way.

    One of the more straightforward and yet complete examples I've seen is
    the Microsoft Teams (net-im/teams) package[1] but there are certainly
    others to use for examples.

    If you wanted, you could try making an ebuild for the deb files from
    AMD, whether only for your own needs or to possibly share with others.

    1:https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/net-im/teams/teams-1.4.00.13653-r1.ebuild

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 1 01:40:01 2021
    On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 18:21:48 BST Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote:
    On Tue, 2021-08-31 at 16:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
    AMD have published Linux drivers on their website, but in RPM and .deb formats. I tried one anyway, but installation stops immediately with 'unsupported OS'. Not surprising, of course, but is there any way of porting an archive full of .debs so that it can be used in Gentoo?

    Lots of portage ebuild files make use of vendor-published .deb / .rpm
    files, manipulating them to install files in the Gentoo-style way.

    One of the more straightforward and yet complete examples I've seen is
    the Microsoft Teams (net-im/teams) package[1] but there are certainly
    others to use for examples.

    If you wanted, you could try making an ebuild for the deb files from
    AMD, whether only for your own needs or to possibly share with others.

    That's a huge undertaking in this case. Beyond me, I deem.

    1:https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/net-im/teams/teams-1.4.00.1 3653-r1.ebuild

    The thing is, there's already an ebuild for dev-libs/amdgpu-pro-opencl, but since I upgraded the display card the resulting code hasn't worked. BOINC reports 'No usable GPUs found' and sources on the Web say that neither of the two drivers works. Impasse.

    Am I going to have to replace the old display card and write off the expense? Looks like it.

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    Regards,
    Peter.

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  • From antlists@21:1/5 to Peter Humphrey on Thu Sep 2 00:30:02 2021
    On 01/09/2021 00:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
    The thing is, there's already an ebuild for dev-libs/amdgpu-pro-opencl, but since I upgraded the display card the resulting code hasn't worked. BOINC reports 'No usable GPUs found' and sources on the Web say that neither of the two drivers works. Impasse.

    Am I going to have to replace the old display card and write off the expense? Looks like it.

    Have you got the appropriate microcode or whatever it is loaded into the
    kernel or modules?

    I had a similar issue where X/wayland wouldn't load with "Can't find
    video card" or somesuch, and the card wasn't being initialised by the
    kernel, because I hadn't installed the relevant "proprietary firmware".
    So the card didn't work.

    (I've got some fun coming in the future, I want to share kernels across
    my machines, one is a Ryzen, the other that A-class thingy with GPU, and
    it appears it requires a little magic to make both work on the same
    kernel ...)

    Cheers,
    Wol

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  • From Peter Humphrey@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 8 13:20:02 2021
    On Wednesday, 1 September 2021 23:28:46 BST antlists wrote:
    On 01/09/2021 00:30, Peter Humphrey wrote:
    The thing is, there's already an ebuild for dev-libs/amdgpu-pro-opencl,
    but since I upgraded the display card the resulting code hasn't worked. BOINC reports 'No usable GPUs found' and sources on the Web say that neither of the two drivers works. Impasse.

    Am I going to have to replace the old display card and write off the expense? Looks like it.

    Have you got the appropriate microcode or whatever it is loaded into the kernel or modules?

    Yes, that was the first step. Those web sources I mentioned are the reason I don't expect to see any success.

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    Regards,
    Peter.

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