Good afternoon all,


This question might be better sooted for the accessibility list, but
seeing that I don't seem to be getting help there I thought I would
bring it up here.  First off, I am an orca user in the gui, but use
espeakup in or fenrir in the concel.  I find that booting the officael
iso, there is no easy way to boot up with speech. For example, in
debian, at the boot prompt, pressing S will bring up the installer with
speech and you can follow the prompts in the text installer which uses espeakup.  Could something simlar be done for gentoo?  My work around
has been to use another linux distro iso.  I.E ubuntu to do the install following the wiki, but seening there is no way to get speech after,
that is whare  I fall short.  The other problem is that if trying to
install accessibility packages like orca, there seems to be alot of
problems with conflicks with flags and dependencies.  For example, when installikng orca, it complans that espeak and espeak-ng can not be
installed at the same time.  What is strange is that espeak is not even installed at this point.  Installing espeak-ng installs without a
problem.  Perhaps this is a bug that perhaps is unreported.  Perhaps an accessibility profile could be created for this.  Thanks and hope that
this is something that can be looked at.  The wiki doesn't have much in
the way of accessibility in particular installing.  Thanks again.


Matthew

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On Tue, 02 May 2023 14:06:34 -0400,
Matthew Dyer wrote:

Good afternoon all,

This question might be better sooted for the accessibility list,
but seeing that I don't seem to be getting help there I thought I
would bring it up here.  First off, I am an orca user in the gui,
but use espeakup in or fenrir in the concel.  I find that booting
the officael iso, there is no easy way to boot up with
speech. For example, in debian, at the boot prompt, pressing S
will bring up the installer with speech and you can follow the
prompts in the text installer which uses espeakup.  Could
something simlar be done for gentoo?  My work around has been to
use another linux distro iso.  I.E ubuntu to do the install
following the wiki, but seening there is no way to get speech
after, that is whare  I fall short.  The other problem is that if
trying to install accessibility packages like orca, there seems
to be alot of problems with conflicks with flags and
dependencies.  For example, when installikng orca, it complans
that espeak and espeak-ng can not be installed at the same time. 
What is strange is that espeak is not even installed at this
point.  Installing espeak-ng installs without a problem.  Perhaps
this is a bug that perhaps is unreported.  Perhaps an
accessibility profile could be created for this.  Thanks and hope
that this is something that can be looked at.  The wiki doesn't
have much in the way of accessibility in particular installing. 
Thanks again.

I have installed gentoo several times, using the gentoo iso, not the
live distribution. I get all the way through, update the system and
then worry about orca later, depending on what gui I want to install
-- I have installed orca from master and used gnome as my gui. The
regular gentoo iso has the speakup modules enabled in the kernel, so
this should not be too bad. What helps greatly is a hardware speech synthesizer, for software speech you might have to install something
like espeakup, I have not done things that way, so experimentation
would be necessary.

I hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions.

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com

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To clarify, that's the gentoo minimal iso I think John uses to install.
So far as I know the live iso hasn't got espeak built into its kernel.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Tue, 2 May 2023, John Covici wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2023 14:06:34 -0400,
Matthew Dyer wrote:

Good afternoon all,

This question might be better sooted for the accessibility list,
but seeing that I don't seem to be getting help there I thought I
would bring it up here.  First off, I am an orca user in the gui,
but use espeakup in or fenrir in the concel.  I find that booting
the officael iso, there is no easy way to boot up with
speech. For example, in debian, at the boot prompt, pressing S
will bring up the installer with speech and you can follow the
prompts in the text installer which uses espeakup.  Could
something simlar be done for gentoo?  My work around has been to
use another linux distro iso.  I.E ubuntu to do the install
following the wiki, but seening there is no way to get speech
after, that is whare  I fall short.  The other problem is that if
trying to install accessibility packages like orca, there seems
to be alot of problems with conflicks with flags and
dependencies.  For example, when installikng orca, it complans
that espeak and espeak-ng can not be installed at the same time. 
What is strange is that espeak is not even installed at this
point.  Installing espeak-ng installs without a problem.  Perhaps
this is a bug that perhaps is unreported.  Perhaps an
accessibility profile could be created for this.  Thanks and hope
that this is something that can be looked at.  The wiki doesn't
have much in the way of accessibility in particular installing. 
Thanks again.

I have installed gentoo several times, using the gentoo iso, not the
live distribution. I get all the way through, update the system and
then worry about orca later, depending on what gui I want to install
-- I have installed orca from master and used gnome as my gui. The
regular gentoo iso has the speakup modules enabled in the kernel, so
this should not be too bad. What helps greatly is a hardware speech synthesizer, for software speech you might have to install something
like espeakup, I have not done things that way, so experimentation
would be necessary.

I hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions.

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