• [gentoo-user] mailing list problem?

    From Jack@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 00:50:01 2023
    I've recently gotten a few of my usual "Bouncing messages" messages
    from the mailing list, but when I go to the archives to see if I can
    identify the problematic messages, I don't see anything since the
    middle of March. I've filed a bug (https://bugs.gentoo.org/903753) a
    few days ago, but no response yet.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    Thanks.

    Jack

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  • From Matt Connell@21:1/5 to Jack on Fri Apr 7 01:40:01 2023
    On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 18:44 -0400, Jack wrote:
    I've recently gotten a few of my usual "Bouncing messages" messages 
    from the mailing list, but when I go to the archives to see if I can  identify the problematic messages, I don't see anything since the 
    middle of March. 

    https://infra-status.gentoo.org/notice/20230404-archives

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  • From David M. Fellows@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 7 01:50:01 2023
    I've recently gotten a few of my usual "Bouncing messages" messages
    from the mailing list, but when I go to the archives to see if I can
    identify the problematic messages, I don't see anything since the
    middle of March. I've filed a bug (https://bugs.gentoo.org/903753) a
    few days ago, but no response yet.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?

    The planned move of the gentoo services to new hardware seems to be taking longer that anticipated. See
    https://infra-status.gentoo.org/

    Other than that, wait patiently.:)
    DaveF

    Thanks.

    Jack


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  • From Jack@21:1/5 to David M. Fellows on Fri Apr 7 02:20:01 2023
    On 4/6/23 19:42, David M. Fellows wrote:
    I've recently gotten a few of my usual "Bouncing messages" messages
    from the mailing list, but when I go to the archives to see if I can
    identify the problematic messages, I don't see anything since the
    middle of March. I've filed a bug (https://bugs.gentoo.org/903753) a
    few days ago, but no response yet.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?
    The planned move of the gentoo services to new hardware seems to be taking longer that anticipated. See
    https://infra-status.gentoo.org/

    Other than that, wait patiently.:)
    DaveF
    Thanks Matt and Dave - that's clearly the issue.  I also have a stronger suspicion regarding what messages are not getting to me, and I don't
    think I'll miss them.

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  • From Nuno Silva@21:1/5 to Jack on Fri Apr 7 07:20:01 2023
    On 2023-04-07, Jack wrote:

    On 4/6/23 19:42, David M. Fellows wrote:
    I've recently gotten a few of my usual "Bouncing messages" messages
    from the mailing list, but when I go to the archives to see if I
    can
    identify the problematic messages, I don't see anything since the
    middle of March. I've filed a bug (https://bugs.gentoo.org/903753) a
    few days ago, but no response yet.

    Any thoughts or suggestions?
    The planned move of the gentoo services to new hardware seems to be taking >> longer that anticipated. See
    https://infra-status.gentoo.org/

    Other than that, wait patiently.:)
    DaveF
    Thanks Matt and Dave - that's clearly the issue.  I also have a
    stronger suspicion regarding what messages are not getting to me, and
    I don't think I'll miss them.

    Unless the mailing list software is updated to start including something
    more useful to identify messages that are bouncing, say, the Message-Id,
    it's going to continue to be difficult to identify these messages.

    The bounce warning includes an identifier that can only(?) be used to
    request that the mailing list software resend the message... so, to the
    address where it is bouncing, and where it will possibly bounce
    again. Unless perhaps if you try from a different address, but I'd say
    having to do so is not very convenient.

    Ideally these messages and the list archive would both use Message-Id,
    but even if the latter doesn't, you could still access the message at
    Gmane if you knew the Message-Id (unless there was some problem
    delivering to Gmane too). And if neither used Message-Id but both used
    the same identifier, you could still look it up in Gentoo's list
    archive...

    Oh, yes, if you want to check a non-Gentoo archive, Gmane is a
    possibility for that too, among others:

    - news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.gentoo.user
    - https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user
    - https://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/

    --
    Nuno Silva

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