• Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerge depclean after world update

    From Arve Barsnes@21:1/5 to John Covici on Fri Sep 30 21:10:01 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 20:47, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

    Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update,
    which went through with no problems, I get the following message:

    Calculating dependencies... done!
    * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
    * the following required packages not being installed:
    *
    * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by:
    * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0

    But I have:

    ebuild R ] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl
    -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig"
    and
    ebuild R ] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff
    upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps"

    So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug
    somewhere?

    Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a
    version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with
    subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced
    within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some
    point one way or another.

    Regards,
    Arve

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  • From John Covici@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 30 20:50:01 2022
    Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update,
    which went through with no problems, I get the following message:

    Calculating dependencies... done!
    * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
    * the following required packages not being installed:
    *
    * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by:
    * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0

    But I have:

    ebuild R ] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl
    -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig"
    and
    ebuild R ] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff
    upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps"

    So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug
    somewhere?

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

    --
    Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
    How do
    you spend it?

    John Covici wb2una
    covici@ccs.covici.com

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  • From Wol@21:1/5 to Arve Barsnes on Fri Sep 30 21:40:01 2022
    On 30/09/2022 20:05, Arve Barsnes wrote:
    Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a
    version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with
    subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced
    within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some
    point one way or another.

    Hmm ...

    I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out
    now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every
    week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned
    maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is
    that normal?

    (Although I've not had any problems with depclean that a --bdeps didn't resolve)

    Cheers,
    Wol

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  • From Matt Connell@21:1/5 to Wol on Fri Sep 30 21:50:01 2022
    On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 20:36 +0100, Wol wrote:
    I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out
    now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every
    week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned
    maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is
    that normal?

    Unless the dependencies of a package change (or you changed the
    resulting set of dependencies via USE changes), they aren't usually a
    whole lot of deps to clean. That's my experience anyway. When I'm
    flailing around a lot in package.use I'll have dozens but otherwise its
    usually just one or two here and there.

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  • From John Covici@21:1/5 to Arve Barsnes on Fri Sep 30 21:40:01 2022
    OK, thanks. I will try an update after a couple of days.

    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 15:05:43 -0400,
    Arve Barsnes wrote:

    On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 20:47, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

    Hi. So, when I tried to do my emerge depclean after my world update,
    which went through with no problems, I get the following message:

    Calculating dependencies... done!
    * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
    * the following required packages not being installed:
    *
    * >=app-text/poppler-0.16.0:0/123=[cairo] pulled in by:
    * app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0

    But I have:

    ebuild R ] app-text/poppler-22.09.0:0/124::gentoo USE="cairo cxx introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt5 tiff utils -boost -cjk -curl
    -debug -doc -nss -verify-sig"
    and
    ebuild R ] app-misc/tracker-miners-3.4.0:3::gentoo USE="exif gif gstreamer iso jpeg networkmanager pdf playlist rss (seccomp) tiff
    upower xml -cue -ffmpeg -gsf -iptc -raw -test -xmp -xps"

    So, what have I done wrong this time -- or is it some kind of bug somewhere?

    Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a
    version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with
    subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced
    within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some
    point one way or another.

    Regards,
    Arve


    --
    Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
    How do
    you spend it?

    John Covici wb2una
    covici@ccs.covici.com

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  • From John Covici@21:1/5 to Wol on Fri Sep 30 21:50:01 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 15:36:10 -0400,
    Wol wrote:

    On 30/09/2022 20:05, Arve Barsnes wrote:
    Probably a temporary problem. app-misc/tracker-miners requires a
    version of app-text/poppler with subslot 123, but only ones with
    subslot 122 and 124 currently exists in tree (as of my tree synced
    within the last 24 hours). I'm sure that'll resolve itself at some
    point one way or another.

    Hmm ...

    I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything
    out now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update
    world every week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's
    probably cleaned maybe one or two packages in the last month?
    Despite updating loads? Is that normal?

    (Although I've not had any problems with depclean that a --bdeps
    didn't resolve)

    Thank goodness for small favors from portage! I think more
    dependencies are brought in automatically.

    --
    Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
    How do
    you spend it?

    John Covici wb2una
    covici@ccs.covici.com

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  • From Wol@21:1/5 to Matt Connell on Fri Sep 30 22:30:01 2022
    On 30/09/2022 20:46, Matt Connell wrote:
    On Fri, 2022-09-30 at 20:36 +0100, Wol wrote:
    I've noticed that --depclean hardly seems to be cleaning anything out
    now. Despite regular emerge updates. I do an emerge update world every
    week, followed immediately by a depclean, but it's probably cleaned
    maybe one or two packages in the last month? Despite updating loads? Is
    that normal?

    Unless the dependencies of a package change (or you changed the
    resulting set of dependencies via USE changes), they aren't usually a
    whole lot of deps to clean. That's my experience anyway. When I'm
    flailing around a lot in package.use I'll have dozens but otherwise its usually just one or two here and there.

    Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package
    automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was
    why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions?

    Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff
    being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed.

    Cheers,
    Wol

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  • From Arve Barsnes@21:1/5 to Wol on Fri Sep 30 23:20:01 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 22:27, Wol <antlists@youngman.org.uk> wrote:
    Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package
    automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was
    why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions?

    Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff
    being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed.

    I don't remember that, although my memory might be less than stellar.

    Unless a package is slotted, an update replaces the old version, and
    hence nothing to depclean.

    Cheers,
    Arve

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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Wol on Sat Oct 1 09:20:01 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 21:27:16 +0100, Wol wrote:

    Does that mean an update typically cleans a replaced package
    automagically? I thought that usually they got left behind and that was
    why you needed depclean - to remove all the old versions?

    Certainly that's what I remember of depclean of old - the list of stuff being cleaned was mostly old versions of what was installed.

    That is when updates to slotted packages are installed, wait until the
    next llvm/clang update. Old versions of a package in the same slot, or
    slot 0 for unslotted packages, are replaced with the new one, but new
    slots cause the behaviour you have seen.


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Why is there an expiration date on sour cream?

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