What do others do with spam to minimize it?
I'm considering setting
up another email address and switching then closing current account.
Yea, it's that annoying. Is there someone I can report them too? Is
there something I'm not recognizing in the message headers that I can
use to report them too?
By the way, I have dovecote set up and the service seems to start.
What do I do after getting the service to start to set up where to
get email etc?
On Thursday, 20 January 2022 14:22:02 CET Dale wrote:
What do others do with spam to minimize it?Hi Dale,
I'm not sure if you're talking about self-hosted mail because you
mention dovecot, if you do:
I use postfix's smtp_recipient_restrictions to block mail coming from
servers marked as spam by RBLs:
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net
I'm not sure if this is doable through Dovecot configuration, but
without an MTA like Postfix you can't receive mail anyway. This alone
seems to block most of the spam I get. And additionally I have rspamd
and some filters set up because some stuff does get through. I think
Postfix also lets you block IP ranges directly in case you get spammed
by some network that isn't listed on spamhaus but I haven't needed that
yet.
I'm considering settingIn case you're using some other email provider (is this about your Gmail address?), what you can do regardless is set up filters (ideally server-
up another email address and switching then closing current account.
Yea, it's that annoying. Is there someone I can report them too? Is
there something I'm not recognizing in the message headers that I can
use to report them too?
side if they provide the capability...) filtering mails by e.g. From
header (I have a whole list of those), and if they have a well
configured spam filter you should be able to move the spam mail into
your spam folder and it should eventually start to classify similar mail
as spam automatically. (but this is specific to the service so I can't
tell you a way that works everywhere)
By the way, I have dovecote set up and the service seems to start.If you aren't self-hosting your mail but want to (be warned, it's a fair
What do I do after getting the service to start to set up where to
get email etc?
bit of setup connecting it all together), you first need a domain, a
server with a static IP address (don't use some box in your home) that
has the correct rDNS record set in addition to DNS, so the hostname can
be resolved from its public IP. To actually be able to receive mail, you
also need an MTA. Dovecot is just a way to access a mailbox, it doesn't actually handle receiving mail from other servers or sending mail.
Postfix is what I use for that, they work well together. I followed
these wiki articles among some others I can't find right now to set it
up initially:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mail_server https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Postfix https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dovecot
I hope this helps!
-Marco
On Thursday, 20 January 2022 14:22:02 CET Dale wrote:
What do others do with spam to minimize it?Hi Dale,
I'm not sure if you're talking about self-hosted mail because you
mention dovecot, if you do:
Well, for the moment, I want to use it for gmail that I'm posting with.
My reason for this, Seamonkey is in a iffy state. I've already started using Firefox and containers for most other things but use Seamonkey
mostly for emails. My hope, set up something local so that I don't lose
any older emails and then be able to access those emails with whatever
web browser or other tool I want, like Firefox. Of course, I'd want to
be able to send email as well. Maybe this is a bigger task than I think
it is. Either way, I have Dovecote installed, think it is working but
no idea what to do with it.
Well, for the moment, I want to use it for gmail that I'm posting with.Just point your email client at dovecot. Or rather, create an account,
My reason for this, Seamonkey is in a iffy state. I've already started
using Firefox and containers for most other things but use Seamonkey
mostly for emails. My hope, set up something local so that I don't lose
any older emails and then be able to access those emails with whatever
web browser or other tool I want, like Firefox. Of course, I'd want to
be able to send email as well. Maybe this is a bigger task than I think
it is. Either way, I have Dovecote installed, think it is working but
no idea what to do with it.
in your mail client, that points at your dovecot server. Bingo, one
empty IMAP mail account.
Now go into your ISP account in the same mail server, and set up
client filters to move all your mail across into your local (dovecot) account.
That way you don't need postfix, or fetchmail, or any other fancy
mailer service, you're using your normal mail client to copy your
emails from your isp down to your local system, and categorise and
sort them.
I have rules that move all my mailing lists into dedicated folders,
marketing junk into dedicated folders (that expire), etc etc. I don't actually have that much spam, but I have rules that move what I
recognise straight into "Deleted" :-)
Then your spam filter will end up like mine was at work - "Anything I
want gets moved into dedicated folders, anything left is probably
spam". So at regular intervals I just sorted my inbox by subject, and bulk-deleted pretty much the lot. When scanning by subject, you tend
to get multiple spams with the same subject, so any ham will stand out because there's just the one ...
(Of course, you could configure fetchmail to collect your mail and
dump it straight into dovecot ...)
Cheers,
Wol
I already divide my emails into folders. Example, any email that
contains [gentoo-user] goes to the gentoo-user folder. Similar for -dev etc. I also have folders for things like banking, friends, family,
shopping websites etc etc. Well over 95% of my emails goes to a folder other than the general purpose inbox. Any email that will be a regular thing gets filtered to something. Most of what is in the inbox is
either a one time thing or spam. Right now, I just have it set to emtpy
the trash, a LOT. Clicking the unsub link is doing no good at all.
What stupid politician came up with that idea anyway.
My plan is to have it so I'm not so dependent on Seamonkey. I want something, Dovecote for example, that will fetch new emails from gmail,
or any other service if I move, and also allow me to send emails as
well. The actual emails tho would be here on my puter, as they are now
but at the moment depends on Seamonkey.
Seamonkey seems to be on its last legs. It's bad enough that it isn't maintained much in the tree but I don't think upstream is keeping things working either. It needs a rewrite sort of like Firefox did. Finding
or updating add-ons for Seamonkey is almost non-existant. Some add-ons haven't been updated in ages or are not even available at all. As a example, I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden almost a year ago. I
can't find a Bitwarden add-on for Seamonkey at all. I'm stuck using Lastpass which is at a version a few years old. There's no telling what security holes it may have. Even the very common and popular adblock
hasn't been updated in ages. My concern, losing Seamonkey completely
and losing all my emails with it. I'd like to have a better way but I'm
not sure I can do that. This appears to be complicated.
I may search for a video on this. Maybe watching someone else do this
will helps. I dunno. I got the service to start but after that, I'm clueless.
Just point your email client at dovecot. Or rather, create an account,
in your mail client, that points at your dovecot server. Bingo, one
empty IMAP mail account.
I was hoping to use a web browser like Firefox to access my email.
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