• [gentoo-user] Kernel config thingy, "make menuconfig"

    From Andrew Lowe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 15 15:40:02 2022
    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig"
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android". You would expect it to
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a whinge.

    Andrew

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  • From Michael Orlitzky@21:1/5 to Andrew Lowe on Sat Jan 15 15:50:01 2022
    On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 22:38 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:
    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig"
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android". You would expect it to
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it's near the bottom.



    You can use "/" to search from within the menu, and the results will
    include a "Location" that shows the path through the menu tree.

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  • From tastytea@21:1/5 to agl@wht.com.au on Sat Jan 15 15:50:02 2022
    On 2022-01-15 22:38+0800 Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make
    menuconfig" builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why
    stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying
    to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android".
    You would expect it to be near the top of the device drivers, but no,
    it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a
    whinge.

    Andrew


    Yeah, someone should clean that thing up… But I guess a lot of people
    would complain because they are used to the current structure. 😄

    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?

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  • From Andrew Lowe@21:1/5 to tastytea on Sat Jan 15 16:20:01 2022
    On 15/1/22 10:47 pm, tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 22:38+0800 Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make
    menuconfig" builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why
    stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying
    to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android".
    You would expect it to be near the top of the device drivers, but no,
    it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a
    whinge.

    Andrew


    Yeah, someone should clean that thing up… But I guess a lot of people
    would complain because they are used to the current structure. 😄

    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?


    "number keys" - No, something to now investigate.

    Thanks,
    Andrew

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to tastytea on Sat Jan 15 17:10:01 2022
    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 22:38+0800 Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make
    menuconfig" builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why
    stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying
    to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android".
    You would expect it to be near the top of the device drivers, but no,
    it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a
    whinge.

    Andrew

    Yeah, someone should clean that thing up… But I guess a lot of people
    would complain because they are used to the current structure. 😄

    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?



    Number keys?  I got to go test this.  That would be one nifty trick. 

    Thanks.

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From Bhaskar Chowdhury@21:1/5 to Andrew Lowe on Sat Jan 15 16:20:01 2022
    On 22:38 Sat 15 Jan 2022, Andrew Lowe wrote:
    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel.
    This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig"
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in >alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the >entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android". You would expect it to
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a whinge.

    Andrew


    Well, I am sure you have noticed and used it ,if and only if, it skips you, then you can press / while on the menu config screen and it will allow you to pinpoint the stuff, you are
    looking for. Basically ,search operation.

    Bhaskar

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to tastytea on Sat Jan 15 21:00:02 2022
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?

    I've been using the search for decades*. But I didn't know about the
    number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it. #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades. It's been my
    primary desktop for almost all of that time too.



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  • From Fabulous Zhang Zheng@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 16 00:10:01 2022
    Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au>于2022年1月15日 周六下午10:39写道:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel.
    This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig"
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android". You would expect it to
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a whinge.

    Andrew

    Good morning,

    for me the "/" search in "make menuconfig" tells me the structure
    location, and the same search in "make nconfig" simply finds and jumps to
    the location in that page.

    Also for convenience I usually "make localyesconfig" then check it through using "make nconfig" to quickly search in some menu and remove/add some
    option.

    <div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Andrew Lowe &lt;<a href="mailto:agl@wht.com.au" target="_blank">agl@wht.com.au</a>&gt;于2022年1月15日 周六下午10:39写道:<br></div></div></div></div><div><
    <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Dear all,<br>
            I&#39;m in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel. <br>
    This means using the &quot;menu config thingy&quot; that &quot;make menuconfig&quot; <br>
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in <br> alphabetical order? It&#39;s a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the <br>
    entries. For example &quot;Device Drivers -&gt; Android&quot;. You would expect it to <br>
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it&#39;s near the bottom.<br>

            No, I&#39;m not expecting anyone to &quot;fix&quot; it, just basically a whinge.<br>

            Andrew<br>

    </blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div dir="auto">Good morning,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">for me the  &quot;/&quot; search in &quot;make menuconfig&quot; tells me the structure location,
    and the same search in &quot;make nconfig&quot; simply finds and jumps to the location in that page.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also for convenience I usually &quot;make localyesconfig&quot; then check it through using &quot;make
    nconfig&quot; to quickly search in some menu and remove/add some option.</div> </div>

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  • From ny6p01@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 16 00:30:01 2022
    Lee 😎

    On Jan 15, 2022 at 3:01 PM, Fabulous Zhang Zheng <zheng1181822466@gmail.com> wrote:



    Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au>于2022年1月15日 周六下午10:39写道:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel.
    This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make menuconfig"
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android". You would expect it to
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a whinge.

    Andrew

    Good morning,

    for me the "/" search in "make menuconfig" tells me the structure
    location, and the same search in "make nconfig" simply finds and jumps to
    the location in that page.

    Also for convenience I usually "make localyesconfig" then check it through using "make nconfig" to quickly search in some menu and remove/add some
    option.

    I actually set aside an hour or two to go through the whole tree, paying particular attention to everything marked NEW. I actually enjoy seeing what
    new functionality has been added with each upgrade even if it is irrelevant
    to my hardware. It's still good to know. Like the new built in NTFS support
    in 5.15. I might have missed this if I hadn't come across it!

    <div id="edo-message"><div></div></div><div id="edo-message"><div></div></div><div id="edo-message"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="edo-signature"><pre>Lee 😎</pre></div></div></div><div id="edo-original"><div><blockquote
    type="cite" style="margin:1ex 0 0 0!important;border-left:1px #ccc solid!important;padding-left:0.4ex!important"><div id="edo-meta">On Jan 15, 2022 at 3:01 PM, Fabulous Zhang Zheng &lt;<a href="mailto:zheng1181822466@gmail.com">zheng1181822466@gmail.com</
    &gt; wrote: <br><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Andrew Lowe &lt;<a href="mailto:agl@wht.com.au" target="_blank">agl@wht.com.au</a>&gt;于2022年1月15日 周六下午10:39写道:<br></
    </div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Dear all,<br>
            I&#39;m in the process of fiddling around with the config of my kernel. <br>
    This means using the &quot;menu config thingy&quot; that &quot;make menuconfig&quot; <br>
    builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why stuff is not in <br> alphabetical order? It&#39;s a pain in the clacka trying to find some of the <br>
    entries. For example &quot;Device Drivers -&gt; Android&quot;. You would expect it to <br>
    be near the top of the device drivers, but no, it&#39;s near the bottom.<br>

            No, I&#39;m not expecting anyone to &quot;fix&quot; it, just basically a whinge.<br>

            Andrew<br>

    </blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div dir="auto">Good morning,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">for me the  &quot;/&quot; search in &quot;make menuconfig&quot; tells me the structure location,
    and the same search in &quot;make nconfig&quot; simply finds and jumps to the location in that page.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also for convenience I usually &quot;make localyesconfig&quot; then check it through using &quot;make
    nconfig&quot; to quickly search in some menu and remove/add some option.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I actually set aside an hour or two to go through the whole tree, paying particular attention to everything marked NEW. I actually
    enjoy seeing what new functionality has been added with each upgrade even if it is irrelevant to my hardware. It&#39;s still good to know. Like the new built in NTFS support in 5.15. I might have missed this if I hadn&#39;t come across it!</div>
    </div>
    </blockquote></div></div>

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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 16 00:40:02 2022
    On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 18:27:26 -0500, ny6p01 wrote:

    I actually set aside an hour or two to go through the whole tree, paying particular attention to everything marked NEW. I actually enjoy seeing
    what new functionality has been added with each upgrade even if it is irrelevant to my hardware. It's still good to know. Like the new built
    in NTFS support in 5.15. I might have missed this if I hadn't come
    across it!

    make oldconfig feeds you the new items, one at a time, complete with
    access to the help information.


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?

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  • From Alarig Le Lay@21:1/5 to Neil Bothwick on Sun Jan 16 02:00:01 2022
    On Sat 15 Jan 2022 23:38:18 GMT, Neil Bothwick wrote:
    make oldconfig feeds you the new items, one at a time, complete with
    access to the help information.

    Speaking of oldconfig, is there a way to only be asked when the default
    is to enable the option? If the default is “No” I never want to add it,
    so it would be better to skip all of theses.

    --
    Alarig

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Sun Jan 16 04:10:01 2022
    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?

    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about the
    number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.  #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been my
    primary desktop for almost all of that time too.





    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in 2003 and
    I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test run and gosh
    darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying to hunt the thing
    down. 

    I also noticed that when you exit out, it goes back to the search
    results instead of the previous menu.  That is good when you have to
    enable several things to get the driver you want to show up.  What a
    awesome piece of info. 

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From William Kenworthy@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Jan 16 04:40:02 2022
    On 16/1/22 00:06, Dale wrote:
    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 22:38+0800 Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:

    Dear all,
    I'm in the process of fiddling around with the config of my
    kernel. This means using the "menu config thingy" that "make
    menuconfig" builds. It is very frustrating. Does anyone know why
    stuff is not in alphabetical order? It's a pain in the clacka trying
    to find some of the entries. For example "Device Drivers -> Android".
    You would expect it to be near the top of the device drivers, but no,
    it's near the bottom.

    No, I'm not expecting anyone to "fix" it, just basically a
    whinge.

    Andrew

    Yeah, someone should clean that thing up… But I guess a lot of people
    would complain because they are used to the current structure. 😄

    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results with
    the number keys?


    Number keys?  I got to go test this.  That would be one nifty trick.

    Thanks.

    Dale

    :-)  :-)

    Yep, its quite nifty!  Also, menuconfig is not the only way - there are
    a few config programs for the kernel ... if you have X on the machine
    there is xconfig which can be quite useful. Others Ive heard of a
    mconfig, gconfig and nconfig and there are probably more.

    also see "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menuconfig"

    BillK

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  • From tastytea@21:1/5 to rdalek1967@gmail.com on Sun Jan 16 05:10:02 2022
    On 2022-01-15 21:04-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results
    with the number keys?

    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about
    the number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.
    #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been my primary desktop for almost all of that time too.

    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in 2003
    and I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test run and
    gosh darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying to hunt the
    thing down. 

    I only learned about it a few years ago, after more than 10 years of
    compiling kernels. Maybe someone s



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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to tastytea on Sun Jan 16 06:20:01 2022
    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 21:04-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results
    with the number keys?
    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about
    the number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.
    #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been my
    primary desktop for almost all of that time too.
    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in 2003
    and I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test run and
    gosh darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying to hunt the
    thing down. 
    I only learned about it a few years ago, after more than 10 years of compiling kernels. Maybe someone s





    I think you got cut off up there.  O_o

    This is one thing about this list.  I'm always finding some tidbit of
    info that makes something easier.  My problem, remembering it.  I
    generally follow a thread even when I have no clue what a person is
    talking about because it is a package that I've never even heard of.  Sometimes I learn something, sometimes I might even be able to post
    about a different view point to solve a problem.  Still, I follow about
    every post, just in case I might find something of value or can maybe
    help in some small way. 

    I'm about to work on dovecote again.  It's something I'm totally
    clueless about.  I think I got the config setup because I can start the service without it puking on my keyboard.  Thing is, I have no idea what
    to do with it after that.  I had trouble setting up Seamonkey to get my
    emails from gmail.  I had to google and look at pics and such. 
    Eventually my hammer found the right nail.  Thing about this list, I'll
    get help because there is likely a lot of people on here who use
    Dovecote and know what to do. 

    Yep, this is a awesome list, for getting help, learning new things or
    giving help to someone else.  What's so neat, everyone does it with a
    healthy dose of respect, even when dealing with some strange characters,
    like me.  Then we have Neil with his funny and sometimes odd signature lines.  I like the recent one about the cannibals and the clowns.  ROFL 

    Dale

    :-)  :-)

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  • From tastytea@21:1/5 to rdalek1967@gmail.com on Sun Jan 16 06:40:01 2022
    On 2022-01-15 23:13-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 21:04-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results
    with the number keys?
    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about
    the number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.
    #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been
    my primary desktop for almost all of that time too.
    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in
    2003 and I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test
    run and gosh darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying
    to hunt the thing down. 
    I only learned about it a few years ago, after more than 10 years of compiling kernels. Maybe someone s





    I think you got cut off up there.  O_o

    Oops! I meant to say: Maybe someone should add a help text to the
    interface. 😊

    This is one thing about this list.  I'm always finding some tidbit of
    info that makes something easier.  My problem, remembering it. 

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I learned this trick from this list (or was it
    one of the IRC channels? 🤔).

    Kind regards, tastytea

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to tastytea on Sun Jan 16 07:10:01 2022
    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 23:13-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 21:04-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results
    with the number keys?
    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about
    the number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.
    #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been
    my primary desktop for almost all of that time too.
    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in
    2003 and I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test
    run and gosh darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying
    to hunt the thing down. 
    I only learned about it a few years ago, after more than 10 years of
    compiling kernels. Maybe someone s




    I think you got cut off up there.  O_o
    Oops! I meant to say: Maybe someone should add a help text to the
    interface. 😊

    This is one thing about this list.  I'm always finding some tidbit of
    info that makes something easier.  My problem, remembering it. 
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I learned this trick from this list (or was it
    one of the IRC channels? 🤔).

    Kind regards, tastytea


    I've searched for info on this.  I even tried typing in make and then
    hitting tab twice.  It never gave me anything so I guess it doesn't work there.  So, I'm learning as I go. 

    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages. 
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I
    went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Jan 16 07:40:01 2022
    Dale wrote:
    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 23:13-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    tastytea wrote:
    On 2022-01-15 21:04-0600 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

    Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 1/15/22 7:47 AM, tastytea wrote:
    Did you know you can search with / and then jump to the results
    with the number keys?
    I've been using the search for decades*.  But I didn't know about >>>>>> the number keys to jump until reading this message and trying it.
    #TIL

    *Yes, I've been using Linux for more than two decades.  It's been >>>>>> my primary desktop for almost all of that time too.
    You are not alone Grant.  I started with my first puter back in
    2003 and I had no idea about the number thing.  I gave it a test
    run and gosh darn it, it worked.  That's a lot better than trying
    to hunt the thing down. 
    I only learned about it a few years ago, after more than 10 years of
    compiling kernels. Maybe someone s



    I think you got cut off up there.  O_o
    Oops! I meant to say: Maybe someone should add a help text to the
    interface. 😊

    This is one thing about this list.  I'm always finding some tidbit of
    info that makes something easier.  My problem, remembering it. 
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure I learned this trick from this list (or was it
    one of the IRC channels? 🤔).

    Kind regards, tastytea

    I've searched for info on this.  I even tried typing in make and then hitting tab twice.  It never gave me anything so I guess it doesn't work there.  So, I'm learning as I go. 

    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.  It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 



    For anyone interested, type in 'make help' and look at the awesome info
    in there.  It's like hitting a gold vein in a cave.  O_O  Why did I not
    ever think of that before?  :/

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From Wols Lists@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Jan 16 10:30:01 2022
    On 16/01/2022 06:06, Dale wrote:
    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Apart from the fact I think I lost /var in my recent rebuild, I set up
    dokuwiki on my system and used it to make notes of all sorts of
    interesting stuff.

    If you can't remember things, find some package (like dokuwiki) that
    will let you make notes ...

    Cheers,
    Wol

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Wols Lists on Sun Jan 16 10:50:02 2022
    Wols Lists wrote:
    On 16/01/2022 06:06, Dale wrote:
    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I
    went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Apart from the fact I think I lost /var in my recent rebuild, I set up dokuwiki on my system and used it to make notes of all sorts of
    interesting stuff.

    If you can't remember things, find some package (like dokuwiki) that
    will let you make notes ...

    Cheers,
    Wol



    I'll look into that.  I have a file in /root named freq-commands.  I
    keep it for frequent commands I use and explain what they are for.  I
    just cat and grep the file to find what I'm looking for.  Sometimes I
    have to cat the whole thing but most of the time I remember enough to
    grep for it. 

    I used to work for a magazine company and I tracked over 10,000 magazine issues.  I could look at the cover and know if it was out of date or
    not.  I always had the lowest late return rate in the company.  Now, I
    forget what I went to the kitchen for.  Sadly, I do that a lot.  :-( 

    Got emerge working on that now.  See what it looks like.  Could be a
    nifty tool.  ;-)

    Dale

    :-)  :-) 

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  • From Wols Lists@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Jan 16 12:30:01 2022
    On 16/01/2022 09:43, Dale wrote:
    Wols Lists wrote:
    On 16/01/2022 06:06, Dale wrote:
    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I >>> went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Apart from the fact I think I lost /var in my recent rebuild, I set up
    dokuwiki on my system and used it to make notes of all sorts of
    interesting stuff.

    If you can't remember things, find some package (like dokuwiki) that
    will let you make notes ...

    Cheers,
    Wol



    I'll look into that.  I have a file in /root named freq-commands.  I
    keep it for frequent commands I use and explain what they are for.  I
    just cat and grep the file to find what I'm looking for.  Sometimes I
    have to cat the whole thing but most of the time I remember enough to
    grep for it.

    I used to work for a magazine company and I tracked over 10,000 magazine issues.  I could look at the cover and know if it was out of date or
    not.  I always had the lowest late return rate in the company.  Now, I forget what I went to the kitchen for.  Sadly, I do that a lot.  :-(

    Got emerge working on that now.  See what it looks like.  Could be a
    nifty tool.  ;-)

    There's another tool (might be webapp-config) which manages Apache
    add-ins, including dokuwiki.

    I set it up manually last time, but I need to see whether this will set
    it up for me this time round.

    But at the moment, my computing focus is on (at work) learning to be a power-user/developer in Excel, and at home I'm working on a database
    called ScarletDME - that's DME as in Data Management Environment I think.

    It's (finally) an Open Source Pick database. Think back to "the database
    is the computer" so it's much more than a relational database, and its data-model is a superset of relational.

    Only snag is, relational (like Pascal) tries to force you to "do the
    right thing", and as I'm finding out that's easier said than done. Pick
    (like C) just gives you all the rope you need to hang yourself with ! ;-)

    If anybody likes the sound of it, feel free to download and play!
    There's a ScarletDME google group, you'll be very welcome. Just be
    warned, despite being based on a very successful commercial product
    (OpenQM), the basic thing is very much text based, and I get the
    impression that ScarletDME is a bit raw round the edges at the moment.
    Your typical user lives in the command line and has never heard of
    database connectivity, despite it being both feasible, and easy.

    Hope to see people there!

    Cheers,
    Wol

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Wols Lists on Sun Jan 16 19:50:02 2022
    Wols Lists wrote:
    On 16/01/2022 06:06, Dale wrote:
    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I
    went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Apart from the fact I think I lost /var in my recent rebuild, I set up dokuwiki on my system and used it to make notes of all sorts of
    interesting stuff.

    If you can't remember things, find some package (like dokuwiki) that
    will let you make notes ...

    Cheers,
    Wol




    Got it installed, got apache to work as well.  Thing is, it does .php
    pages and my web browsers don't open .php files.  It just wants to
    download them.  I'm not sure how to fix that, yet.  I'm making progress tho. 

    Dale

    :-)  :-)

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  • From Wol@21:1/5 to Dale on Sun Jan 16 22:10:01 2022
    On 16/01/2022 18:41, Dale wrote:
    Wols Lists wrote:
    On 16/01/2022 06:06, Dale wrote:
    I got nconfig to work.  The others didn't because of missing packages.
    It's interesting how many different ways there is to config a kernel.  I >>> went to a link that was posted, still reading it.  May learn something
    else, if I can remember it when I need it.  lol

    Apart from the fact I think I lost /var in my recent rebuild, I set up
    dokuwiki on my system and used it to make notes of all sorts of
    interesting stuff.

    If you can't remember things, find some package (like dokuwiki) that
    will let you make notes ...

    Cheers,
    Wol




    Got it installed, got apache to work as well.  Thing is, it does .php
    pages and my web browsers don't open .php files.  It just wants to
    download them.  I'm not sure how to fix that, yet.  I'm making progress tho.

    Quick google - have you installed and configured php - it's supposed to
    run inside Apache so if your browser is seeing it, the problem is with
    Apache ...

    (As I said, I've emerged but not set up dokuwiki, and I must have set it
    up in my previous system ten years ago ... so I've completely forgotten ...)

    Cheers,
    Wol

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