Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected automatically but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus: net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads usb zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1. What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2. The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with ipp://hostname/ printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

TiA.

--
Regards,
Peter.

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On 2022.01.12 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:

Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected automatically
but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or
HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus: net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads
usb
zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1. What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2. The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with
ipp://hostname/
printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

What do you mean by isn't detected? Do you mean the Cups add printer
page doesn't show it? If so, are you sure it's actually on the
network? Is it wired or wifi? Does your router show a page/list of connected devices? If it's present, try pointing a web browser at it's
IP address to review it's internal configuration (just on principle, I
can't suggests anything specific to look for.) If it's not connected
to the network, might it have a fixed IP from an older configuration?
I don't know if you can configure it's network settings over the USB connection - if not, it might take a factory reset for it to use DHCP.
It might also have a network config report you can print by some
combination of buttons on the control panel.

Jack

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On 1/12/2022 11:45 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected automatically but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus: net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads usb zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1. What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2. The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with ipp://hostname/ printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

TiA.

Hi Peter and list,

I have a Lexmark color laser on my network that I print to from Windows
and a Gentoo ~amd64 desktop.

I believe I just used the printer's IP address in CUPS in place of the
hostname (e.g., ipp://192.168.1.1).

I use a static IP configured through the printer panel and can find it
in the settings if I forget

Todd

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On 12/01/2022 20:39, Todd Goodman wrote:

On 1/12/2022 11:45 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected
automatically
but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or
HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus:
net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo  USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads usb
zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd"
ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1.  What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2.  The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with
ipp://hostname/
printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

TiA.

Hi Peter and list,

I have a Lexmark color laser on my network that I print to from Windows
and a Gentoo ~amd64 desktop.

I believe I just used the printer's IP address in CUPS in place of the hostname (e.g., ipp://192.168.1.1).

I use a static IP configured through the printer panel and can find it
in the settings if I forget

Or use a dynamic static IP. On my (and most) routers, you can lock an IP
and MAC address together, so it's all done dynamically, but it's always
the same IP because it's locked not leased.

Cheers,
Wol

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Peter Humphrey wrote:

Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected automatically but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus: net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads usb zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1. What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2. The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with ipp://hostname/ printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

TiA.

I have a very similar printer and this is my settings from CUPS:


Description:    Lexmark C2325dw
Location:    Local Printer
Driver:    C2325dw - IPP Everywhere (color, 2-sided printing) Connection:    ipp://192.168.0.102


If I recall correctly, the printer uses DHCP so I let it pick its first
IP itself and then I think I set it to use that from then on.  I have a
cell phone that connects to and don't want them switching IPs on me.  It
uses IPP to communicate.  If you want to access the printer directly, to
see toner cartridge levels, adjust printer settings etc, just point a
browser to the IP address. 

If you are connecting to a router, I'd access the router and see if the
router is seeing the printer first thing.  If you require passwords, you
may need to enter the password on the printer panel, I did.  Once you
can access the printer in a web browser, you can adjust things easier.

Does that help any?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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On 1/12/22 09:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:

Hello list,

I have a Lexmark C2425 colour laser, which used to be detected automatically but now isn't. I can connect it over USB, but I'd like to use IPP or HTTP.

This is a stable amd64 box, and CUPS is installed thus: net-print/cups-2.3.3_p2-r3::gentoo USE="X acl dbus pam ssl threads usb zeroconf -debug -kerberos (-selinux) -static-libs -systemd -xinetd" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"

Two questions:

1. What else do I need to do for the printer to be detectable?
2. The guides I've found say I can set it up manually with ipp://hostname/ printers/printername. What is 'printername'? Is it just arbitrary?

Clues, anyone?

TiA.

Double check the IP address of your printer.
Run:
nmap -sP your_local_network

You should see your printer listed.

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On Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:31:56 GMT Dale wrote:

I have a very similar printer and this is my settings from CUPS:

Description: Lexmark C2325dw
Location: Local Printer
Driver: C2325dw - IPP Everywhere (color, 2-sided printing)
Connection: ipp://192.168.0.102

That Connection field is what I needed. Thanks Dale.

If I recall correctly, the printer uses DHCP so I let it pick its first
IP itself and then I think I set it to use that from then on. I have a
cell phone that connects to and don't want them switching IPs on me. It
uses IPP to communicate. If you want to access the printer directly, to
see toner cartridge levels, adjust printer settings etc, just point a
browser to the IP address.

If you are connecting to a router, I'd access the router and see if the router is seeing the printer first thing. If you require passwords, you
may need to enter the password on the printer panel, I did. Once you
can access the printer in a web browser, you can adjust things easier.

In fact I've taken the belt-and-braces approach. I have the address defined in /etc/hosts and in the local DNS, and it's also associated with the MAC address in the router.

Does that help any?

It does. I've just spent an hour stepping through the process of adding the printer, writing down everything I did and saw. Then I went back and tried
your suggestion and it worked straight away.

Thanks again.

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Regards,
Peter.

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Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Wednesday, 12 January 2022 23:31:56 GMT Dale wrote:

I have a very similar printer and this is my settings from CUPS:


Description: Lexmark C2325dw
Location: Local Printer
Driver: C2325dw - IPP Everywhere (color, 2-sided printing)
Connection: ipp://192.168.0.102

That Connection field is what I needed. Thanks Dale.

If I recall correctly, the printer uses DHCP so I let it pick its first
IP itself and then I think I set it to use that from then on. I have a
cell phone that connects to and don't want them switching IPs on me. It
uses IPP to communicate. If you want to access the printer directly, to
see toner cartridge levels, adjust printer settings etc, just point a
browser to the IP address.

If you are connecting to a router, I'd access the router and see if the
router is seeing the printer first thing. If you require passwords, you
may need to enter the password on the printer panel, I did. Once you
can access the printer in a web browser, you can adjust things easier.

In fact I've taken the belt-and-braces approach. I have the address defined in
/etc/hosts and in the local DNS, and it's also associated with the MAC address
in the router.

Does that help any?

It does. I've just spent an hour stepping through the process of adding the printer, writing down everything I did and saw. Then I went back and tried your suggestion and it worked straight away.

Thanks again.

I'm not going to tell you how many hours I spent trying all the
options.  Or how long I googled.  It took a while.  I asked on here and
got some help but still took a bit. 

If that didn't help, I was going to take pics and send them off list. 
That way you can just follow along with it.  About the only change you
might need to make, the IP address.  I couldn't imagine it being to
different given the closeness of our printer models. 

By the way, I hope you can refill your cartridges.  Those things are
darn expensive.  The high yield is the best bargain tho.  If I could get
the ships, I could refill mine.  Toner isn't a problem.  The chips are. 
I wish someone would make a chip that disables the page count thing. 
Maybe a reset button.  If you ever find a way that works, please share,
off list if needed.  Just keep [gentoo-user] in the subject line.  That triggers my filters and bypasses spam filter. 

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality.  My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost. 

Happy printing.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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On 13/01/2022 12:10, Dale wrote:

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality.  My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost.

I didn't think £50 was that expensive for a cartridge ... until I saw it
was only 1000 pages! £80 for 3000 - not superb but not bad.

Dunno if you can find someone like my supplier (ijtdirect.co.uk) but my (compatible) cartridges list at about £70 and I usually pay half that
for 2500 pages. Always check your supplier for deals :-) HP M477

Cheers,
Wol

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On Thursday, 13 January 2022 13:47:51 GMT Wols Lists wrote:

On 13/01/2022 12:10, Dale wrote:

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality. My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost.

I didn't think £50 was that expensive for a cartridge ... until I saw it
was only 1000 pages! £80 for 3000 - not superb but not bad.

I've just paid £140 for a 3,500-page magenta toner cartridge from printerland.co.uk. A lot of money, but it'll last me a long time.

Dunno if you can find someone like my supplier (ijtdirect.co.uk) but my (compatible) cartridges list at about £70 and I usually pay half that
for 2500 pages. Always check your supplier for deals :-) HP M477

Perhaps I'd better, next time. :(

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Regards,
Peter.

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On Thursday, 13 January 2022 12:10:05 GMT Dale wrote:

I'm not going to tell you how many hours I spent trying all the
options. Or how long I googled. It took a while. I asked on here and
got some help but still took a bit.

If that didn't help, I was going to take pics and send them off list.
That way you can just follow along with it. About the only change you
might need to make, the IP address. I couldn't imagine it being to
different given the closeness of our printer models.

Kind of you, but before that I'd just have used the USB connection.

By the way, I hope you can refill your cartridges. Those things are
darn expensive. The high yield is the best bargain tho. If I could get
the ships, I could refill mine. Toner isn't a problem. The chips are.
I wish someone would make a chip that disables the page count thing.
Maybe a reset button. If you ever find a way that works, please share,
off list if needed. Just keep [gentoo-user] in the subject line. That triggers my filters and bypasses spam filter.

I'm not aware of a page count. It looks as though it measures what's left in the cartridge. That's if I'm reading the status display right.

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality. My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost.

Yes, me too.

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Regards,
Peter.

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:29:23 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:

I didn't think £50 was that expensive for a cartridge ... until I saw
it was only 1000 pages! £80 for 3000 - not superb but not bad.

I've just paid £140 for a 3,500-page magenta toner cartridge from printerland.co.uk. A lot of money, but it'll last me a long time.

I recently bought a full set from stinkyink.co.uk, the price was good and
the quality seems as good as the originals.


--
Neil Bothwick

How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a
good idea to put wheels on luggage?

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On Thursday, 13 January 2022 15:46:05 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:29:23 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:

I didn't think £50 was that expensive for a cartridge ... until I saw
it was only 1000 pages! £80 for 3000 - not superb but not bad.

I've just paid £140 for a 3,500-page magenta toner cartridge from printerland.co.uk. A lot of money, but it'll last me a long time.

I recently bought a full set from stinkyink.co.uk, the price was good and
the quality seems as good as the originals.

Grr! :)

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Regards,
Peter.

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On 13/01/2022 15:29, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Thursday, 13 January 2022 13:47:51 GMT Wols Lists wrote:

On 13/01/2022 12:10, Dale wrote:

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality. My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost.

I didn't think £50 was that expensive for a cartridge ... until I saw it
was only 1000 pages! £80 for 3000 - not superb but not bad.

I've just paid £140 for a 3,500-page magenta toner cartridge from printerland.co.uk. A lot of money, but it'll last me a long time.

My HP came with a (standard) 1 year warranty but it also came with an
"extended 3 year warranty so long as you only use HP cartridges".

So when the initial cartridges ran out I bought a complete set of HP
cartridges - at about 150% the initial price of the printer! - but they
lasted me right through til the printer was about 2 years 10 months old.
So I then bought a set of compatibles, and they're fine. If the printer
does break, I'll have saved enough to buy a new one (and the printer
itself came from Printerland :-)

Cheers,
Wol

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Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Thursday, 13 January 2022 12:10:05 GMT Dale wrote:

I'm not aware of a page count. It looks as though it measures what's left in the cartridge. That's if I'm reading the status display right.

I'm not sure about yours but I am very pleased with features and the
print quality. My only gripe is the cartridges and their cost.

Yes, me too.

I researched and found a couple places that claimed if you refill the cartridges before they were about empty, then it would keep working. 
However, other people said the chip prints a specific number of pages
and then shows empty whether it is or not.  I know when my cartridges
claimed being empty, I could hear the toner shaking around in there. 
I'm just not sure how much was in there.  I'm thinking it is the later
because I've read that the chip must be replaced because it counts pages
not measure toner.  It has no reset button. 

I'm thinking about testing the theory tho.  Just buy a bottle of toner, whatever is getting below half full, and then filling it back up.  Print
and see what happens.  If the level goes up, it works and can be
refilled.  If it doesn't and stops at the preset number of pages, then
the chip must be replaced when filling. 

If you have info about someone actually doing this, I'd be interested in reading their postings about it.  The toner isn't half bad price wise. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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On 14/01/2022 12:44, Dale wrote:

I researched and found a couple places that claimed if you refill the cartridges before they were about empty, then it would keep working.
However, other people said the chip prints a specific number of pages
and then shows empty whether it is or not.  I know when my cartridges claimed being empty, I could hear the toner shaking around in there.
I'm just not sure how much was in there.  I'm thinking it is the later because I've read that the chip must be replaced because it counts pages
not measure toner.  It has no reset button.

I'm thinking about testing the theory tho.  Just buy a bottle of toner, whatever is getting below half full, and then filling it back up.  Print
and see what happens.  If the level goes up, it works and can be
refilled.  If it doesn't and stops at the preset number of pages, then
the chip must be replaced when filling.

If you have info about someone actually doing this, I'd be interested in reading their postings about it.  The toner isn't half bad price wise.

I believe it depends on the manufacturer (surprise surprise).

My HP counts "pages from new" until it's used 10%, then when it gets to
ten times that it throws up a WARNING that the cartridge is empty and
needs replacing. But it doesn't stop printing (and I think that last is
true for all HPs).

So we've had cartridges just keep going and going, because it got used
for a bunch of photos when new, then just colour documents, and it's
been moaning "empty" for over half the cartridge's life.

Other manufacturers do stop when they think the cartridge is empty "to
protect the printer".

But HP has (afaik) always put the more consumable stuff into the
cartridge, so if you "abuse" it beyond end-of-life the printer itself is unaffected. Other manufacturers (eg Brother) split consumables out into replaceable items (like the toner belt).

Oh - and when our cartridges look like they're empty, I always give them
a shake because that often knocks toner out of the nooks and crannies
into the usable path, but it's a big warning that the cartridge does
need replacing ...

Cheers,
Wol

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