• Apple PowerPC G5 7,2 No GUI NVIDIA FX 5200

    From =?UTF-8?B?R3VpZG8gUi4gUm9sw7NuIEEu?@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 20 22:00:01 2022
    Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple Machine

    My setup is a
    Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53
    5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)
    Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969
    Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX
    Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2
    CPU 1.6GYHZ 970
    RAM 4096MB 333
    DISK 160GB HD
    DVD-R/CDRW
    NVIDIA GF5200 Ultra
    56K Modem

    I have managed to install Debian Linux 11
    (debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso), CD-ROM Install
    With no errors during installation.
    First problem, blank screen after first boot,
    Access with ssh to this machine and edited /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet nomodeset"
    Then
    update-grub2
    and finally
    reboot
    i can access console, text mode
    NO GUI,

    Tried X -configure
    and
    X,
    No screen detected

    Any help will be welcomed


    --
    *Lic. Guido R. Rolón A.*
    Personal : (0971) 331012
    *Google : *grolon@gmail.com

    <div dir="ltr">Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple Machine<div><br></div><div>My setup is a</div><div>Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53<br> 5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)</div><
    <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:none;letter-spacing:0.1px;white-space:pre-wrap">Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969</span><br style="font-family:
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  • From Jeffrey Walton@21:1/5 to grolon@gmail.com on Fri May 20 22:10:01 2022
    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. <grolon@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple Machine

    My setup is a
    Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53
    5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)
    Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969
    Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX
    Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2
    CPU 1.6GYHZ 970
    RAM 4096MB 333
    DISK 160GB HD
    DVD-R/CDRW
    NVIDIA GF5200 Ultra
    56K Modem

    I have managed to install Debian Linux 11 (debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso), CD-ROM Install
    With no errors during installation.
    First problem, blank screen after first boot,
    Access with ssh to this machine and edited /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet nomodeset"
    Then
    update-grub2
    and finally
    reboot
    i can access console, text mode
    NO GUI,

    Tried X -configure
    and
    X,
    No screen detected

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    Jeff

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?R3VpZG8gUi4gUm9sw7NuIEEu?@21:1/5 to noloader@gmail.com on Fri May 20 22:30:01 2022
    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. <grolon@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple Machine

    My setup is a
    Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53
    5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)
    Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969
    Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX
    Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2
    CPU 1.6GYHZ 970
    RAM 4096MB 333
    DISK 160GB HD
    DVD-R/CDRW
    NVIDIA GF5200 Ultra
    56K Modem

    I have managed to install Debian Linux 11
    (debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso), CD-ROM Install
    With no errors during installation.
    First problem, blank screen after first boot,
    Access with ssh to this machine and edited /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet nomodeset"
    Then
    update-grub2
    and finally
    reboot
    i can access console, text mode
    NO GUI,

    Tried X -configure
    and
    X,
    No screen detected

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    Jeff



    --
    *Lic. Guido R. Rolón A.*
    Personal : (0971) 331012
    *Google : *grolon@gmail.com

    <div dir="ltr">Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jeffrey Walton &lt;<a href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com">noloader@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><
    blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. &lt;<a href="mailto:grolon@gmail.com" target="_blank">grolon@gmail.com</a>&gt;
    wrote:<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple Machine<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; My setup is a<br>
    &gt; Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53<br>
    &gt; 5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)<br>
    &gt; Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969<br>
    &gt; Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX<br>
    &gt; Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2<br>
    &gt; CPU 1.6GYHZ 970<br>
    &gt; RAM 4096MB 333<br>
  • From Ben Westover@21:1/5 to =?UTF-8?B?R3VpZG8gUi4gUm9sw7NuIEEu? on Fri May 20 22:30:01 2022
    To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org (PowerPC List Debian)

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    Hello,

    On 5/20/22 4:20 PM, Guido R. Rolón A. wrote:
    Thanks, I'll check it out. 

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com <mailto:noloader@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. <grolon@gmail.com
    <mailto:grolon@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    > Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple
    Machine
    >
    > My setup is a
    > Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53
    > 5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)
    > Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969
    > Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX
    > Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2
    > CPU 1.6GYHZ 970
    > RAM 4096MB 333
    > DISK 160GB HD
    > DVD-R/CDRW
    > NVIDIA GF5200 Ultra
    > 56K Modem
    >
    > I have managed to install Debian Linux 11
    (debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso), CD-ROM Install
    > With no errors during installation.
    > First problem, blank screen after first boot,
    > Access with ssh to this machine and edited /etc/default/grub
    > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet nomodeset"
    > Then
    > update-grub2
    > and finally
    > reboot
    > i can access console, text mode
    > NO GUI,
    >
    > Tried X -configure
    > and
    > X,
    > No screen detected

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
    <https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers>

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    Jeff


    That doesn't look like the right place to go. From what I can see, that
    page is about the proprietary driver, which won't work on your card.
    You're looking for Nouveau, which should be built in.

    --
    Ben Westover

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?R3VpZG8gUi4gUm9sw7NuIEEu?@21:1/5 to kwestover.kw@gmail.com on Fri May 20 23:00:01 2022
    Thanks
    No ATI Radeon available !
    0 experience with Nouveau


    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:29 PM Ben Westover <kwestover.kw@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hello,

    On 5/20/22 4:20 PM, Guido R. Rolón A. wrote:
    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com <mailto:noloader@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. <grolon@gmail.com
    <mailto:grolon@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    > Hi all this is my first time here and my first time with an Apple
    Machine
    >
    > My setup is a
    > Apple PowerMac7,2 5.1.5f2 BootROM built on 09/21/04 at 11:58:53
    > 5.1.5 - Power Macintosh G5 (Omega, June 2003)
    > Model No.: A1047 EMC No.: 1969
    > Serial NO: YM337XXXXXX
    > Ethernet ID: 000A9597FAE2
    > CPU 1.6GYHZ 970
    > RAM 4096MB 333
    > DISK 160GB HD
    > DVD-R/CDRW
    > NVIDIA GF5200 Ultra
    > 56K Modem
    >
    > I have managed to install Debian Linux 11
    (debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso), CD-ROM Install
    > With no errors during installation.
    > First problem, blank screen after first boot,
    > Access with ssh to this machine and edited /etc/default/grub
    > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet nomodeset"
    > Then
    > update-grub2
    > and finally
    > reboot
    > i can access console, text mode
    > NO GUI,
    >
    > Tried X -configure
    > and
    > X,
    > No screen detected

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
    <https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers>

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    Jeff


    That doesn't look like the right place to go. From what I can see, that
    page is about the proprietary driver, which won't work on your card.
    You're looking for Nouveau, which should be built in.

    --
    Ben Westover



    --
    *Lic. Guido R. Rolón A.*
    Personal : (0971) 331012
    *Google : *grolon@gmail.com

    <div dir="ltr">Thanks<div>No ATI Radeon available !</div><div>0 experience with Nouveau</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:29 PM Ben Westover &lt;<a href="mailto:kwestover.
    kw@gmail.com">kwestover.kw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>

    On 5/20/22 4:20 PM, Guido R. Rolón A. wrote:<br>
    &gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check it out. <br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 4:07 PM Jeffrey Walton &lt;<a href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com" target="_blank">noloader@gmail.com</a><br>
    &gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com" target="_blank">noloader@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt;     On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 3:54 PM Guido R. Rolón A. &lt;<a href="mailto:grolon@gmail.com" target="_blank">
  • From tonyj@suse.de@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Mon May 23 19:40:01 2022
    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 04:05:13PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    As mentioned, the proprietory NVIDIA drivers are x86 only. The only
    option is the reverse engineered open-source Nouveau (nv) driver.

    I've had endless issues with the nouveau driver on my Quad G5. It
    worked years ago (kernel 3.0 era) but ever since the driver has been
    unreliable or just non-operational.

    Tangent: my Quad G5 is in pieces right now (cooling issue). When I
    resolve this I wanted to swap in a different card.

    Does anyone have a suggestion as to what *PCI-EXPRESS* card works well
    with the current kernel and can support open firmware?

    There was an official Apple Radeon X1900 G5 edition which was PCIe.
    I've also read that people have used a Windows PC to flash Mac
    firmware onto a PC X1950 PCIe card and this card may be more easily available/cheaper.

    If the OPs machine is PCI-X there are more X1900 options but I've no
    idea how well the Radeon cards work with Linux.

    Thanks

    --
    Tony Jones
    SUSE Kernel Performance Team

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  • From Jeffrey Walton@21:1/5 to tonyj@suse.de on Mon May 23 19:50:01 2022
    On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:31 PM <tonyj@suse.de> wrote:

    ...
    There was an official Apple Radeon X1900 G5 edition which was PCIe.
    I've also read that people have used a Windows PC to flash Mac
    firmware onto a PC X1950 PCIe card and this card may be more easily available/cheaper.

    If the OPs machine is PCI-X there are more X1900 options but I've no
    idea how well the Radeon cards work with Linux.

    Based on my experience with my G5, I was able to use a non-Apple
    Raedon card and things worked fine. I did not need to flash ROMs or
    jump through other hoops.

    For completeness, I picked up a Radeon X1900 GT from eBay. I took out
    the existing NVIDIA card and installed the Raedon card. Upon boot I
    had a UI.

    Jeff

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  • From Christian Calderon@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 23 19:50:01 2022
    I have an NVIDIA GeForce 7800GT in my PowerMac11,2. It works fine in Debian with nouveau, MATE, and Compton. I’ve tested with a GeForce 6600LE which also worked well. What issues were you having?

    I wonder if new nvidia cards will work now that nvidia has released an open source driver…

    Sent from my iPhone

    On May 23, 2022, at 10:32 AM, tonyj@suse.de wrote:

    On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 04:05:13PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

    This may help: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

    When I had problems with the NVIDIA card, I took the NVIDIA card out,
    and installed a Radeon card instead.

    As mentioned, the proprietory NVIDIA drivers are x86 only. The only
    option is the reverse engineered open-source Nouveau (nv) driver.

    I've had endless issues with the nouveau driver on my Quad G5. It
    worked years ago (kernel 3.0 era) but ever since the driver has been unreliable or just non-operational.

    Tangent: my Quad G5 is in pieces right now (cooling issue). When I
    resolve this I wanted to swap in a different card.

    Does anyone have a suggestion as to what *PCI-EXPRESS* card works well
    with the current kernel and can support open firmware?

    There was an official Apple Radeon X1900 G5 edition which was PCIe.
    I've also read that people have used a Windows PC to flash Mac
    firmware onto a PC X1950 PCIe card and this card may be more easily available/cheaper.

    If the OPs machine is PCI-X there are more X1900 options but I've no
    idea how well the Radeon cards work with Linux.

    Thanks

    --
    Tony Jones
    SUSE Kernel Performance Team


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  • From tonyj@suse.de@21:1/5 to Christian Calderon on Mon May 23 20:10:01 2022
    On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 10:41:07AM -0700, Christian Calderon wrote:
    I wonder if new nvidia cards will work now that nvidia has released an open source driver…

    My understanding is that what has been made available right now is
    only for newer hardware. In the long term it may be of benefit for
    older hardware.

    Lots of details here:

    https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/

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  • From tonyj@suse.de@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Mon May 23 20:10:01 2022
    On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 01:39:34PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:31 PM <tonyj@suse.de> wrote:

    ...
    There was an official Apple Radeon X1900 G5 edition which was PCIe.
    I've also read that people have used a Windows PC to flash Mac
    firmware onto a PC X1950 PCIe card and this card may be more easily available/cheaper.

    If the OPs machine is PCI-X there are more X1900 options but I've no
    idea how well the Radeon cards work with Linux.

    Based on my experience with my G5, I was able to use a non-Apple
    Raedon card and things worked fine. I did not need to flash ROMs or
    jump through other hoops.

    For completeness, I picked up a Radeon X1900 GT from eBay. I took out
    the existing NVIDIA card and installed the Raedon card. Upon boot I
    had a UI.

    Good info thanks. So the PC cards work fine in Open Firmware also?
    I wonder what the apple specific firmware is for? MacOS specific functionality?

    --
    Tony Jones
    SUSE Kernel Performance Team

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