• Using a serial port

    From Steve Fatula@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 18 02:00:01 2022
    Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and
    raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a
    serial console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232
    port to a projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested
    installs. There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS. I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being
    started on ttyS1, but no way to use the port as a serial port to send
    and received data. Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO
    pins, as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye.
    But unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.

    Steve

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  • From Lennart Sorensen@21:1/5 to Steve Fatula on Sat Jun 18 02:50:01 2022
    On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a serial console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs. There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS.
    I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1, but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data. Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins, as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable
    or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye. But unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.

    From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5
    on the Pi4B using the dts overlays. I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    experience with doing that unfortunately.

    https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to have some
    talk about it though.

    --
    Len Sorensen

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  • From Steve Fatula@21:1/5 to Lennart Sorensen on Sat Jun 18 06:30:01 2022
    There are no dtoverlays using Debian, they are on Raspberry OS.

    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and
    raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a serial
    console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a
    projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs. >> There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS. >> I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1, >> but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data.
    Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins, >> as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable >> or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye. But >> unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5
    on the Pi4B using the dts overlays. I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    experience with doing that unfortunately.

    https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to have some
    talk about it though.


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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to Lennart Sorensen on Sat Jun 18 08:10:01 2022
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 6/17/22 20:44, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and
    raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a serial
    console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a
    projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs. >> There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS. >> I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1, >> but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data.
    Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins, >> as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable >> or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye. But >> unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5
    on the Pi4B using the dts overlays. I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    experience with doing that unfortunately.

    https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to have some talk about it though.

    *I never have used a serial port on a pi, 3 or 4. I'm running an 80 yo******Sheldon lathe with a pi4 now but used a pi3 before the 4 came out.****My use of a mesa interface card ties up the gpio header as it talks to *

    the mesa cards at ohmygawd baud rates, sending data to the mesa
    card in 32 bit packets at 42 megabaud, and getting the reply's back
    at 25 megabaud, The use of the SPI interface leaves the wired net
    port open for normal use and my remote operating channel is over
    its ipv4 address with ssh for terminal services, and sshfs for file
    transfers.. And running on raspios buster version, it Just Works. other
    than linuxcnc which needs a realtime kernel as the raspios kernel
    has been replaced with one I built, right on the pi:

    pi@rpi4:/media/pi/workspace $ uname -a
    Linux rpi4.coyote.den 4.19.71-rt24-v7l+ #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Feb 6
    07:09:18 EST 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux

    workspace is a 240gig sata ssd plugged into a usb3 adapter, only
    about 20x faster than its 64G boot u-sd. Within its speed limits,
    it can do anything the bigger, more power hungry intels can do.
    Total power consumption, monitor and all the interfacing is about
    22 watts. The lathes 250 supply is controlled by SSR's linuxcnc
    controls.  And the lathe can do tricks that weren't even invented
    yet when it was new. To an accuracy of about .002 mm.

    There's lots of things the pi's can do if given the chance to try.
    Needing a uart to talk to it is not a requirement here.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/17/22 20:44, Lennart Sorensen
    wrote:<br>
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    cite="mid:Yq0deNq9vCnlgwMu@csclub.uwaterloo.ca">
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    </pre>
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    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and
    raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a serial console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs. There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS.
    I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1,
    but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data. Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins,
    as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable
    or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye. But unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
    &gt;From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5
    on the Pi4B using the dts overlays. I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    experience with doing that unfortunately.

    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827">https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827</a> seems to have some
    talk about it though.
    </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""><b>I never have used a serial port on a pi, 3 or 4. I'm running an 80 yo</b><b> </b><b>
    </b><b>Sheldon lathe with a pi4 now but used a pi3 before the 4 came out.</b><b>
    </b><b>My use of a mesa interface card ties up the gpio header as it talks to </b>
    </pre>
    the mesa cards at ohmygawd baud rates, sending data to the mesa <br>
    card in 32 bit packets at 42 megabaud, and getting the reply's back<br>
    at 25 megabaud, The use of the SPI interface leaves the wired net <br>
    port open for normal use and my remote operating channel is over <br>
    its ipv4 address with ssh for terminal services, and sshfs for file
    <br>
    transfers.. And running on raspios buster version, it Just Works.
    other<br>
    than linuxcnc which needs a realtime kernel as the raspios kernel <br>
    has been replaced with one I built, right on the pi:<br>
    <br>
    pi@rpi4:/media/pi/workspace $ uname -a<br>
    Linux rpi4.coyote.den 4.19.71-rt24-v7l+ #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Feb 6
    07:09:18 EST 2020 armv7l GNU/Linux<br>
    <br>
    workspace is a 240gig sata ssd plugged into a usb3 adapter, only<br>
    about 20x faster than its 64G boot u-sd. Within its speed limits,<br>
    it can do anything the bigger, more power hungry intels can do.<br>
    Total power consumption, monitor and all the interfacing is about <br>
    22 watts. The lathes 250 supply is controlled by SSR's linuxcnc <br>
    controls.  And the lathe can do tricks that weren't even invented<br>
    yet when it was new. To an accuracy of about .002 mm.<br>
    <br>
    There's lots of things the pi's can do if given the chance to try. <br>
    Needing a uart to talk to it is not a requirement here.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Cheers, Gene Heskett.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis
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  • From Francois Lorrain@21:1/5 to Steve Fatula on Sat Jun 18 09:40:01 2022
    Hello,

    This might be useful if you want to recreate the dts : https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/

    I have not tried it ...

    Francois

    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 06:20, Steve Fatula <steve@fatula.us> wrote:

    There are no dtoverlays using Debian, they are on Raspberry OS.

    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and
    raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a
    serial
    console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a >> projector.

    I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs.
    There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS.
    I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1,
    but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data.
    Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.

    So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins,
    as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to
    disable
    or enable?

    As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on
    Bullseye. But
    unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5
    on the Pi4B using the dts overlays. I don't have a Pi4 yet so no experience with doing that unfortunately.

    https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to have some talk about it though.




    <div dir="ltr"><div>Hello, <br></div><div><br></div><div>This might be useful if you want to recreate the dts :</div><div><a href="https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/">https://bootlin.com/blog/device-
    tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I have not tried it ...</div><div><br></div><div>Francois<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 06:20,
    Steve Fatula &lt;<a href="mailto:steve@fatula.us">steve@fatula.us</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There are no dtoverlays using Debian, they
    are on Raspberry OS.<br>

    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:<br>
    &gt; On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:<br>
    &gt;&gt; Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on Debian and<br>
    &gt;&gt; raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it as a serial<br>
    &gt;&gt; console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232 port to a<br>
    &gt;&gt; projector.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the tested installs.<br>
    &gt;&gt; There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on Raspberry OS.<br>
    &gt;&gt; I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being started on ttyS1,<br>
    &gt;&gt; but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and received data.<br>
    &gt;&gt; Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to any GPIO pins,<br>
    &gt;&gt; as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need to disable<br>
    &gt;&gt; or enable?<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on Bullseye. But<br>
    &gt;&gt; unfortunately I can&#39;t use Raspberry OS for our usage.<br>
    &gt;  From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2 through uart5<br>
    &gt; on the Pi4B using the dts overlays.  I don&#39;t have a Pi4 yet so no<br> &gt; experience with doing that unfortunately.<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; <a href="https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827</a> seems to have some<br>
    &gt; talk about it though.<br>
    &gt;<br>

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Steve Fatula on Sat Jun 18 19:00:01 2022
    On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:30:53AM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    So, it sounds like the answer is no basically. Yes, I can compile debian and such but not what I have in mind, simply wanted to enable the UART for
    serial use. I'm not sure why the overlays are not included in Debian. I'll have to keep the event driven code controlling my projector on another machine for now sadly. I guess I will try and find a way to ask the debian "developers" who made the images for Debian. Thanks for the help.


    The "developers" who made the image for Debian: fundamentally Gunnar Wolf
    who is an excellent Debian developer - expert and of very long standing -
    who has done a large amount of work. You might find others who could help
    on IRC - OFTC channels #debian-arm and #debian-raspberrypi

    The Raspberry Pi does things its own way and the way the overlays work
    is largely particular to the RPi.

    With every good wish, as ever,

    Andy Cater


    On 6/18/22 2:38 AM, Francois Lorrain wrote:
    Hello,

    This might be useful if you want to recreate the dts : https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/

    I have not tried it ...

    Francois

    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 06:20, Steve Fatula <steve@fatula.us> wrote:

    There are no dtoverlays using Debian, they are on Raspberry OS.

    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    >> Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on
    Debian and
    >> raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it
    as a serial
    >> console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232
    port to a
    >> projector.
    >>
    >> I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the
    tested installs.
    >> There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on
    Raspberry OS.
    >> I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being
    started on ttyS1,
    >> but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and
    received data.
    >> Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.
    >>
    >> So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to
    any GPIO pins,
    >> as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need
    to disable
    >> or enable?
    >>
    >> As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on
    Bullseye. But
    >> unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    >  From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2
    through uart5
    > on the Pi4B using the dts overlays.  I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    > experience with doing that unfortunately.
    >
    > https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to
    have some
    > talk about it though.
    >


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  • From Steve Fatula@21:1/5 to Francois Lorrain on Sat Jun 18 18:40:01 2022
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    So, it sounds like the answer is no basically. Yes, I can compile debian
    and such but not what I have in mind, simply wanted to enable the UART
    for serial use. I'm not sure why the overlays are not included in
    Debian. I'll have to keep the event driven code controlling my projector
    on another machine for now sadly. I guess I will try and find a way to
    ask the debian "developers" who made the images for Debian. Thanks for
    the help.

    On 6/18/22 2:38 AM, Francois Lorrain wrote:
    Hello,

    This might be useful if you want to recreate the dts : https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/

    I have not tried it ...

    Francois

    On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 06:20, Steve Fatula <steve@fatula.us> wrote:

    There are no dtoverlays using Debian, they are on Raspberry OS.

    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
    > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:
    >> Is there anyway to get an attached serial port working on
    Debian and
    >> raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want to use it
    as a serial
    >> console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as an RS232
    port to a
    >> projector.
    >>
    >> I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian using the
    tested installs.
    >> There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays used on
    Raspberry OS.
    >> I can sort of mess around and stop the console from being
    started on ttyS1,
    >> but no way to use the port as a serial port to send and
    received data.
    >> Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.
    >>
    >> So, is there any way to really use a serial port, attached to
    any GPIO pins,
    >> as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what do I need
    to disable
    >> or enable?
    >>
    >> As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is based on
    Bullseye. But
    >> unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.
    >  From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2
    through uart5
    > on the Pi4B using the dts overlays.  I don't have a Pi4 yet so no
    > experience with doing that unfortunately.
    >
    > https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827 seems to
    have some
    > talk about it though.
    >


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    So, it sounds like the answer is no basically. Yes, I can compile
    debian and such but not what I have in mind, simply wanted to enable
    the UART for serial use. I'm not sure why the overlays are not
    included in Debian. I'll have to keep the event driven code
    controlling my projector on another machine for now sadly. I guess I
    will try and find a way to ask the debian "developers" who made the
    images for Debian. Thanks for the help.  <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/18/22 2:38 AM, Francois Lorrain
    wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CAJERwX5iBwsEy9FeW-x_m1i+OJ-xCC+qwNzSO_g2JH3fuBY8ww@mail.gmail.com">
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    <div>Hello, <br>
    </div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>This might be useful if you want to recreate the dts :</div>
    <div><a href="https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/"
    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bootlin.com/blog/device-tree-supporting-similar-boards-the-beaglebone-example/</a></div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>I have not tried it ...</div>
    <div><br>
    </div>
    <div>Francois<br>
    </div>
    </div>
    <br>
    <div class="gmail_quote">
    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 at 06:20,
    Steve Fatula &lt;<a href="mailto:steve@fatula.us"
    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">steve@fatula.us</a>&gt;
    wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
    0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There
    are no dtoverlays using Debian, they are on Raspberry OS.<br>
    <br>
    On 6/17/22 7:34 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:<br>
    &gt; On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 06:45:02PM -0500, Steve Fatula
    wrote:<br>
    &gt;&gt; Is there anyway to get an attached serial port
    working on Debian and<br>
    &gt;&gt; raspberry PI 4? It appears the tested installs want
    to use it as a serial<br>
    &gt;&gt; console, I do not. I want to use UART1, the PL011, as
    an RS232 port to a<br>
    &gt;&gt; projector.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; I can do this using Raspberry OS, but, not Debian
    using the tested installs.<br>
    &gt;&gt; There is no way to disable Bluetooth via the overlays
    used on Raspberry OS.<br>
    &gt;&gt; I can sort of mess around and stop the console from
    being started on ttyS1,<br>
    &gt;&gt; but no way to use the port as a serial port to send
    and received data.<br>
    &gt;&gt; Apparently the dtoverlays are not there.<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; So, is there any way to really use a serial port,
    attached to any GPIO pins,<br>
    &gt;&gt; as a real RS232 port using Debian images? if so, what
    do I need to disable<br>
    &gt;&gt; or enable?<br>
    &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt;&gt; As mentioned, had it working on Raspberry OS which is
    based on Bullseye. But<br>
    &gt;&gt; unfortunately I can't use Raspberry OS for our usage.<br>
    &gt;  From what I have read you should be able to enable uart2
    through uart5<br>
    &gt; on the Pi4B using the dts overlays.  I don't have a Pi4
    yet so no<br>
    &gt; experience with doing that unfortunately.<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; <a
    href="https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827"
    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=244827</a>
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  • From Paul Wise@21:1/5 to Steve Fatula on Sun Jun 19 02:20:01 2022
    On Sat, 2022-06-18 at 11:30 -0500, Steve Fatula wrote:

    I'm not sure why the overlays are not included in Debian.

    I don't remember the details, but I have heard it is because the RPi
    Foundation has not gotten their work on overlays into mainline Linux
    and Debian mostly does not use non-mainline Linux kernel versions.

    --
    bye,
    pabs

    https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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  • From Lennart Sorensen@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Sun Jun 19 03:30:01 2022
    On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 04:59:24PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    The "developers" who made the image for Debian: fundamentally Gunnar Wolf
    who is an excellent Debian developer - expert and of very long standing -
    who has done a large amount of work. You might find others who could help
    on IRC - OFTC channels #debian-arm and #debian-raspberrypi

    The Raspberry Pi does things its own way and the way the overlays work
    is largely particular to the RPi.

    Beaglebone does overlays too. It is not Pi specific, it is a useful
    kernel feature. Devicetree overlays (and devicetree in general) of course started on powerpc, so no it is not a Pi thing, the Pi just happens to
    be the most common platform that is actually making people realize the
    feature exists. It's only been around for 8 or so years after all.

    --
    Len Sorensen

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