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  • Re: File has unexpected size (x != y). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: ..

    From Michael =?utf-8?B?S2rDtnJsaW5n?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 15:10:01 2024
    On 13 Jan 2024 13:44 +0000, from lbrtchx@gmail.com (Albretch Mueller):
    E: Failed to fetch https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html
    File has unexpected size (7009 != 20884). Mirror sync in progress?
    [IP: 184.31.10.246 443]
    Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:eac7c87ae7118d29d55d497c8a3873dd1c0c062dd3df06ca74a4710ddcb950d9
    - MD5Sum:40029a8ea9aa7a6c9ddf3aa60404c17a [weak]
    - Filesize:20884 [weak]

    That URL doesn't look right. You wouldn't by any chance be behind a
    captive portal or something like that which is asking for
    reauthentication?

    --
    Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se “Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

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  • From Andy Smith@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 17:00:01 2024
    Hello,

    On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 02:06:22PM +0000, Michael Kjrling wrote:
    On 13 Jan 2024 13:44 +0000, from lbrtchx@gmail.com (Albretch Mueller):
    E: Failed to fetch https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html
    File has unexpected size (7009 != 20884). Mirror sync in progress?
    [IP: 184.31.10.246 443]
    Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:eac7c87ae7118d29d55d497c8a3873dd1c0c062dd3df06ca74a4710ddcb950d9
    - MD5Sum:40029a8ea9aa7a6c9ddf3aa60404c17a [weak]
    - Filesize:20884 [weak]

    That URL doesn't look right. You wouldn't by any chance be behind a
    captive portal or something like that which is asking for
    reauthentication?

    Also the file size of the erroneous file is the same for everything
    fetched (7009) so yes I surmise the same as you: behind captive
    portal that is redirecting every request to a bit of HTML of size
    7009.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Sat Jan 13 17:50:01 2024
    On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 04:36:14PM +0000, Albretch Mueller wrote:
    On 1/13/24, Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> wrote:
    On 13 Jan 2024 13:44 +0000, from lbrtchx@gmail.com (Albretch Mueller):
    E: Failed to fetch
    https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html
    File has unexpected size (7009 != 20884). Mirror sync in progress?
    [IP: 184.31.10.246 443]
    Hashes of expected file:
    -
    SHA256:eac7c87ae7118d29d55d497c8a3873dd1c0c062dd3df06ca74a4710ddcb950d9
    - MD5Sum:40029a8ea9aa7a6c9ddf3aa60404c17a [weak]
    - Filesize:20884 [weak]

    That URL doesn't look right. You wouldn't by any chance be behind a
    captive portal or something like that which is asking for
    reauthentication?

    Assuming I am indeed "behind a captive portal or something like that
    which is asking for reauthentication" why is it that it only reacts
    when I visit certain sites, like the profiled ones I need to access
    right after I boot up?

    We can't know. But you can: just point your browser (or curl, or wget)
    at that URL and see what it says. This is the bunch of HTML your package manager is trying to digest as a package.

    Lucky that it barfs early, I'd say.

    Cheers
    --
    t

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    =T/nw
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  • From tomas@tuxteam.de@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Sat Jan 13 19:50:02 2024
    On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 06:19:06PM +0000, Albretch Mueller wrote:
    My access to the Internet seems to be fine. I tested various urls:

    In that case, I'm out.

    Cheers
    --
    t

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  • From Greg Wooledge@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Sat Jan 13 21:00:01 2024
    On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 06:19:06PM +0000, Albretch Mueller wrote:
    My access to the Internet seems to be fine. I tested various urls:

    url="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/facebook-energy-heating-homes"

    That doesn't prove anything. Just *look* at the URL that you got from
    the error:

    E: Failed to fetch
    https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html

    It's *obviously* a portal login. Go to it. Click whatever the hell it
    wants you to click. Better still, open a real web browser (one with
    Javascript enabled) and go *anywhere*.

    Once you get your IP "logged in" to the portal, apt-get might start
    working again. Until the next time it wants you to re-authenticate
    anyway.

    Don't think "But these 11 URLs worked, why does the 12th one not work?"
    Nobody knows. Don't try to figure it out. Just submit, or get a real
    Internet connection.

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Fri Jan 19 17:00:01 2024
    On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 03:22:52PM +0000, Albretch Mueller wrote:
    On 1/19/24, Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:
    Precise steps
    depend on degree of your paranoia.

    ... and mine is of the totally irrevocable, even joyful kind; so,
    where are the steps?

    I have always believe that Debian’s basic assumptions about using the Internet as a relatively secure, “private” venue are definitely more worryingly irrational than my paranoia.

    I think at some point I will have to learn more about Debian’s apt utility. Any documentation you would suggest explaining it all from
    the protocoled structure of deb packages to the various installation procedures depending on degree of paranoia? When I learn something I
    like to learn all of it.


    What aspect? apt sits on top of package dependencies, package signing,
    package validation ...

    And apt succeeds / parallels aptitude and apt-get. Apt-get succeeded dselect which superseded dpkg commands. The base is still dpkg and keeping track
    of package dependencies in some sense.

    All the very best,

    Andy
    (amacater@debian.org)
    Where do you _actually_ want to start

    I tend to only mind what I am working on. I would just use an
    unexposed computer and/or do things by hand/on paper if possible, but
    you can’t do algorithmic simulations and tests by hand.

    lbrtchx

    On 1/19/24, Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 18/01/2024 12:45, Albretch Mueller wrote:
    On 1/14/24, Max Nikulin wrote:
    Generally just pay attention that GPG keys for repositories are obtained >>> through trusted channels.

    How do you functionally (that is, give me the step-by-step command
    line statements, ... in order to) do that?

    Verify installation (or live) image to have initial keyring

    https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/uobl6l$i21$1@ciao.gmane.io
    Re: Correction to last message for Debian 11 and Debian 12. Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:55:48 +0700.

    Optionally install necessary keyring packages.

    When adding a third-party repository, evaluate that GPG key you are
    going to add really belongs to repository maintainers. Precise steps
    depend on degree of your paranoia.


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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Sat Jan 20 00:00:02 2024
    On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 22:19:21 (+0000), Albretch Mueller wrote:

    Package dependencies to me are just DAGs,

    Are they? No circular dependencies?

    [ … ] I haven’t found a book yet, explaining it all.
    At times I have found great explanations about single aspects.

    What sales figures would you expect to see with such a book?

    Cheers,
    David.

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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Albretch Mueller on Mon Jan 29 06:20:01 2024
    On Sat 27 Jan 2024 at 14:50:25 (+0000), Albretch Mueller wrote:
    On 1/19/24, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
    On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 22:19:21 (+0000), Albretch Mueller wrote:
    Package dependencies to me are just DAGs,
    Are they? No circular dependencies?

    The way I see them, "circular dependencies" are "cultural".
    "organizational" issues not essentially technical ones. circular
    dependencies happen in packages which should be part of the same node.
    Show me examples in which it is not the case.

    To save time, I just used the list's search, and found a reference
    to presumably the wheezy Packages file:

    Package: openjdk-6-jre-headless
    Version: 6b38-1.13.10-1~deb7u1
    Depends: openjdk-6-jre-lib (= 6b38-1.13.10-1~deb7u1), [ … ]

    Package: openjdk-6-jre-lib
    Version: 6b38-1.13.10-1~deb7u1
    Depends: openjdk-6-jre-headless (>= 6b27)

    I guess that example gives you something cultural or
    organisational to chew on?

    [ … ] I haven’t found a book yet, explaining it all.
    At times I have found great explanations about single aspects.
    What sales figures would you expect to see with such a book?

    ... and since that sounds to me like ransom money aren't you the one
    who would determine the amount yourself?

    I haven't a clue what you're rambling on about. Ransom money?

    You originally wrote:

    [ … ] So, to start I would
    like to study the Debian packages and how dpkg establishes and keeps
    those dependencies. What happens on the hire and on the repositories
    with certificates ... I haven’t found a book yet, explaining it all.
    At times I have found great explanations about single aspects.

    For there to be a book on the subject, someone has to invest
    the time and effort to write it, and persuade others to
    proofread and publish it. But who's this book for—a whole
    book … on Debian's APT and dpkg?

    Perhaps after you've studied your issues long enough, though,
    you might write one.

    Cheers,
    David.

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