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  • Re: multiple messages

    From David Christensen@21:1/5 to Martin Smith on Sun Dec 11 20:00:01 2022
    On 12/11/22 09:52, Martin Smith wrote:
    I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it

    this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with
    "From"

    and this one:  10/12/2022, 14:49
    Re: Monitor traffic on a port


    2022-12-11 10:49:26 root@laalaa ~
    # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
    11.5
    Linux laalaa 5.10.0-19-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.149-2 (2022-10-21)
    x86_64 GNU/Linux

    2022-12-11 10:49:32 root@laalaa ~
    # dpkg-query -W thunderbird
    thunderbird 1:102.5.0-1~deb11u1


    I see anywhere from 1 to 4 copies of messages in my Junk and Trash folders.


    Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years. My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete
    duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc..


    David

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  • From Martin Smith@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 11 19:30:01 2022
    I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it

    this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From"

    and this one: 10/12/2022, 14:49
    Re: Monitor traffic on a port


    --
    Martin

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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 12 04:30:01 2022
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  • From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to David Christensen on Mon Dec 12 05:20:02 2022
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800
    David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

    Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years.
    My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc..

    This is one place claws-mail would come in handy. It has a tool for
    deleting duplicate messages.

    --
    Does anybody read signatures any more?

    https://charlescurley.com
    https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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  • From John Conover@21:1/5 to Charles Curley on Mon Dec 12 08:10:01 2022
    Charles Curley writes:
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800
    David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

    Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years.
    My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc..

    This is one place claws-mail would come in handy. It has a tool for
    deleting duplicate messages.


    Or, if you are filtering/sorting incoming email through procmail(1),
    the References: header will contain a same ID for duplicate emails,
    (which is derived from the Message-ID: header.)

    Something like:

    :0 Wh :msgid.lock
    | formail -D $idcache_size msgid.cache

    in ~/.procmailrc will eliminate a duplicate email.

    John

    --

    John Conover, conover@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/

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  • From Martin Smith@21:1/5 to David Wright on Mon Dec 12 21:40:01 2022
    On 12/12/2022 03:24, David Wright wrote:
    On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 17:52:56 (+0000), Martin Smith wrote:
    I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has
    my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it

    this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From" >>
    and this one: 10/12/2022, 14:49
    Re: Monitor traffic on a port
    The specific email that you mentioned is at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/12/msg00262.html
    and shouldn't cause any trouble. But it does quote a couple
    of header fields from an earlier post, and that may be a clue
    to your underlying problem, but not to its immediate cause.

    I suggest you read the thread (about a dozen posts) starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/12/msg00250.html
    and particularly messages #252 and #269. These discuss
    a /possible/ cause of your reported symptoms—you've quoted
    the topic of the thread at the top of your post.

    You need to determine whether "getting multiple messages"
    means that you are seeing multiple displays of the same
    message, or the display of local duplicates of one or two
    messages, or actual newly arriving copies of these same
    messages. Knowing which of these is occurring will help
    trace the source.

    I think it's an unlikely coincidence that these messages
    (particularly if the duplicates are all in the set 252/262/269)
    would just happen to be the ones causing a random Tbird
    duplication bug to trigger. The problem could lie further
    up the chain of processes that deliver the emails.

    BTW are you running any filters, like procmail etc?

    Cheers,
    David.

    well thanks for all the suggestions, I am just using thunderbird and
    having discussed it with my mail provider I changed the account from pop
    to imap and now its looking fine, it seems to have been a random
    thunderbird bug, it seems to have been a random thunderbird bug

    --

    Martin

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  • From David Christensen@21:1/5 to John Conover on Tue Dec 13 02:50:01 2022
    On 12/11/22 22:50, John Conover wrote:
    Charles Curley writes:
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800
    David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

    Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years.
    My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete
    duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc..

    This is one place claws-mail would come in handy. It has a tool for
    deleting duplicate messages.


    Or, if you are filtering/sorting incoming email through procmail(1),
    the References: header will contain a same ID for duplicate emails,
    (which is derived from the Message-ID: header.)

    Something like:

    :0 Wh :msgid.lock
    | formail -D $idcache_size msgid.cache

    in ~/.procmailrc will eliminate a duplicate email.


    Interesting. But MIME and UTF support seem to be lacking:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procmail#Criticism


    David

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  • From David Christensen@21:1/5 to Charles Curley on Tue Dec 13 02:40:01 2022
    On 12/11/22 20:07, Charles Curley wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 10:59:02 -0800
    David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:

    Thunderbird message duplication bugs have existed for several years.
    My work-around is to periodically delete older messages and/or delete
    duplicates in Junk, Trash, etc..

    This is one place claws-mail would come in handy. It has a tool for
    deleting duplicate messages.


    Apparently, so does Thunderbird:

    https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/removedupes/


    David

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