• Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain co

    From Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?=@21:1/5 to Niels Thykier on Fri Jun 29 09:40:01 2018
    Hello,

    On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 08:03:00PM +0000, Niels Thykier wrote:
    armel/armhf:
    ------------

    * Undesirable to keep the hardware running beyond 2020. armhf VM
    support uncertain. (DSA)
    - Source: [DSA Sprint report]

    [DSA Sprint report]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2018/02/msg00004.html

    In this report Julien Cristau wrote:

    In short, the hardware (development boards) we're currently using to
    build armel and armhf packages aren't up to our standards, and we
    really, really want them to go away when stretch goes EOL (expected in
    2020). We urge arm porters to find a way to build armhf packages in
    VMs or chroots on server-class arm64 hardware.

    If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
    is a rackable NAS by Netgear:

    https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs

    with an armhf cpu. Not sure if cpu speed (1.2 GHz) and available RAM (2
    GiB) are good enough. The machine can run mainline Linux[1]. I think
    U-Boot doesn't support this machine in mainline though.

    Apart from that the people in #debian-arm (e.g. Sledge) seem to be
    positive that at least armhf should be fine to be built on arm64
    hardware.

    Best regards
    Uwe

    [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/armada-xp-netgear-rn2120.dts

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  • From W. Martin Borgert@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 29 12:10:01 2018
    Quoting Uwe Kleine-König <uwe@kleine-koenig.org>:
    If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
    is a rackable NAS by Netgear:

    https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs

    This seems to be out of stock and discontinued, unfortunately.

    Anyway, I'm relatively sure, that I can convince my boss to sponsor/donate
    both armel and armhf hardware for Debian, if that is of any help. Or arm64
    used in "32 bits mode".

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  • From Roger Shimizu@21:1/5 to W. Martin Borgert on Mon Jul 23 11:10:01 2018
    Dear armel/armhf shakeholders,

    I talked to a few people about keeping armel in buster, during 1st and
    2nd day in debcamp.
    Seems the blocker is just the buildd server hardware, and memory size it has.

    On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:04 PM, W. Martin Borgert <debacle@debian.org> wrote:

    Quoting Uwe Kleine-König <uwe@kleine-koenig.org>:

    If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there
    is a rackable NAS by Netgear:

    https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs

    This seems to be out of stock and discontinued, unfortunately.

    This is still available in amazon:
    - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MQK14KC

    Anyway, I'm relatively sure, that I can convince my boss to sponsor/donate both armel and armhf hardware for Debian, if that is of any help. Or arm64 used in "32 bits mode".

    I think DSA team prefers armel or armhf real hardware (not just
    developing boards).
    So it'll be super great if you (or your boss) can kindly sponsor some armel/armhf hardwares that support to install 4GB memory.

    Thanks!

    Cheers,
    --
    Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo
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