• Can an iMac 24" with Core2 Duo run Debian AMD64?

    From Steven Grunza@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 16:50:02 2017
    I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.

    Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and then a
    screen similar to:

    1.

    2.
    Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_


    Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect, nor did anything
    I did with the mouse.



    I received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine. The
    hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the over-the-network install.

    My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this machine since
    the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).

    Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_64 would be welcome -
    I'm hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine so
    it needs to be 64-bit.

    Steven G.

    <div dir="ltr">I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.<div><br></div><div>Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and then a screen similar to:</div><div><br></div><div>           1.</div><div><br></div><div>    Â
           2.<br></div><div>Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect, nor did anything I did with the mouse.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I
    received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine.  The hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the over-the-network install.</div><div><br></div><div>My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this
    machine since the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).</div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_64 would be welcome - I&#39;m hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine
    so it needs to be 64-bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Steven G.</div></div>

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  • From Robert Goley@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 17:00:01 2017
    Yes it can but you have to install differently. That series of mac has
    some different 32bit/64 bit EFI type issues. It is best to use a regular
    non EFI installer to install Linux on it. I had a macbook with the same
    type of issue. The error you pasted is exactly the same one I encountered
    when installers started incorporating the EFI installers. I no longer have that hardware so haven't done an install in some time so I can't tell you where/ how to get an installer without EFI enabled. Worst case, you could
    do a minimal install of an older version and then dist-upgrade to the
    latest version. You could also do a chroot install from a bootable
    livecd. You should be able to find an installer with EFI disabled though.

    On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Grunza <steven.grunza@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.

    Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and then a
    screen similar to:

    1.

    2.
    Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_


    Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect, nor did
    anything I did with the mouse.



    I received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine. The hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the over-the-network install.

    My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this machine
    since the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).

    Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_64 would be welcome
    - I'm hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine so it needs to be 64-bit.

    Steven G.




    --

    <div dir="ltr">Yes it can but you have to install differently.  That series of mac has some different 32bit/64 bit EFI type issues.  It is best to use a regular non EFI installer to install Linux on it.  I had a macbook with the same type of issue. 
    The error you pasted is exactly the same one I encountered when installers started incorporating the EFI installers.  I no longer have that hardware so haven&#39;t done an install in some time so I can&#39;t tell you where/ how to get an installer
    without EFI enabled.  Worst case, you could do a minimal install of an older version and then dist-upgrade to the latest version.  You could also do a chroot install from a bootable livecd.  You should be able to find an installer with EFI disabled
    though.  </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Grunza <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:steven.grunza@gmail.com" target="_blank">steven.grunza@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><
    blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.<div><br></div><div>Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and
    then a screen similar to:</div><div><br></div><div>           1.</div><div><br></div><div>           2.<br></div><div>Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect,
    nor did anything I did with the mouse.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine.  The hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the over-the-network
    install.</div><div><br></div><div>My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this machine since the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).</div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_
    64 would be welcome - I&#39;m hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine so it needs to be 64-bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Steven G.</div></div>
    </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&amp;id=0B5t42KVrzopAay1nT3Bac0FyWkk&amp;revid=
    0B5t42KVrzopAY1B4TnlDY1JSck1Rbjk5UDVIb1RPc2E2Q3RFPQ" width="200" height="124"><br></div></div>
    </div>

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  • From Frederik Juul Christiani@21:1/5 to Robert Goley on Sun Nov 12 21:30:01 2017
    I have successfully used debian-mac-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso to install a
    64-bit OS on a Mac mini 2,1, which also has a 64-bit capable Core 2 Duo and
    a 32bit EFI.
    Perhaps a current debian-mac-x.x.x-amd64-netinst.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ will also
    work on an iMac with similar issues.
    If I remember correctly it installed GRUB, but I later switched to rEFInd.

    The wiki page for the Intel Mac mini might be of interest: https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_2.2C1

    On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Robert Goley <ragoley@rdasys.com> wrote:

    Yes it can but you have to install differently. That series of mac has
    some different 32bit/64 bit EFI type issues. It is best to use a regular
    non EFI installer to install Linux on it. I had a macbook with the same
    type of issue. The error you pasted is exactly the same one I encountered when installers started incorporating the EFI installers. I no longer have that hardware so haven't done an install in some time so I can't tell you where/ how to get an installer without EFI enabled. Worst case, you could
    do a minimal install of an older version and then dist-upgrade to the
    latest version. You could also do a chroot install from a bootable
    livecd. You should be able to find an installer with EFI disabled though.

    On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Grunza <steven.grunza@gmail.com> wrote:

    I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.

    Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and then a
    screen similar to:

    1.

    2.
    Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_


    Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect, nor did
    anything I did with the mouse.



    I received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine.
    The hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the
    over-the-network install.

    My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this machine
    since the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).

    Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_64 would be welcome
    - I'm hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine so >> it needs to be 64-bit.

    Steven G.




    --



    <div dir="ltr"><div>I have successfully used debian-mac-8.7.1-amd64-netinst<wbr>.iso to install a 64-bit OS on a Mac mini 2,1, which also has a 64-bit capable Core 2 Duo and a 32bit EFI.<br>Perhaps a current debian-mac-x.x.x-amd64-netinst<wbr>.iso from <
    a href="http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/" target="_blank">http://cdimage.debian.org/cdim<wbr>age/release/current/amd64/iso-<wbr>cd/</a> will also work on an iMac with similar issues.<br></div>If I remember correctly it
    installed GRUB, but I later switched to rEFInd.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">The wiki page for the Intel Mac mini might be of interest: <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel#Macmini_2.2C1" target="_blank">https://
    wiki.debian.org/MacMin<wbr>iIntel#Macmini_2.2C1</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Robert Goley <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ragoley@rdasys.com" target="_
    blank">ragoley@rdasys.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes it can but you have to install differently.  That series of
    mac has some different 32bit/64 bit EFI type issues.  It is best to use a regular non EFI installer to install Linux on it.  I had a macbook with the same type of issue.  The error you pasted is exactly the same one I encountered when installers
    started incorporating the EFI installers.  I no longer have that hardware so haven&#39;t done an install in some time so I can&#39;t tell you where/ how to get an installer without EFI enabled.  Worst case, you could do a minimal install of an older
    version and then dist-upgrade to the latest version.  You could also do a chroot install from a bootable livecd.  You should be able to find an installer with EFI disabled though.  </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_
    8390925892396140492gmail-h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Grunza <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:steven.grunza@gmail.com" target="_blank">steven.grunza@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="
    gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I tried booting Debian 9.2.0 live netinstall and live.<div><br></div><div>Both started up and gave a black screen with white writing and
    then a screen similar to:</div><div><br></div><div>           1.</div><div><br></div><div>           2.<br></div><div>Select CD-ROM Boot Type :_</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nothing I did on the attached USB keyboard had any affect,
    nor did anything I did with the mouse.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I received the machine from someone that upgraded to a newer machine.  The hard drive was mostly wiped clean and Apple no longer supports the over-the-network
    install.</div><div><br></div><div>My hope was to replace an iMac G5 (running Xubuntu) with this machine since the G5 is so incredibly slow (radeon driver issues most likely).</div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions on how to get the machine running x86_
    64 would be welcome - I&#39;m hoping to be able to build Android and Android apps on the machine so it needs to be 64-bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Steven G.</div></div>
    </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span class="m_8390925892396140492gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_8390925892396140492gmail-m_2368315102710368694gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><img src="https://
    docs.google.com/uc?export=download&amp;id=0B5t42KVrzopAay1nT3Bac0FyWkk&amp;revid=0B5t42KVrzopAY1B4TnlDY1JSck1Rbjk5UDVIb1RPc2E2Q3RFPQ" width="200" height="124"><br></div></div>
    </font></span></div>
    </blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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