• Re: DebConf and legal structure for the project

    From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to martin f krafft on Fri Apr 8 23:50:01 2022
    martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> writes:

    … I recommend you don't even start trying. Not only is it going to be a massive bikeshed, DebConf also basically requires a legal entity in
    whatever country we choose for our next holiday camp. And so yeah,
    DebConf is never going to be formally a part of Debian.

    That's... what I said?

    Are we really still talking about Russia?

    No, which is why I changed the subject header.

    --
    Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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  • From Russ Allbery@21:1/5 to tytso on Tue Apr 12 17:50:01 2022
    tytso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:

    This is a pretty well-explored problem space. There are a number of organizations that help academic or FOSS organizations run conferences. Examples of these include Usenix (which used to be the organization that
    ran the Linux Kernel Maintainer's Summit), The Linux Foundation (which
    now runs the Maintainer's Summit as well as Linux Plumbers Conference),
    and Association Headquarters (which is a for-profit company that helps non-profits run conferences as well as being their "legal entity", ala
    SPI). These organizations don't need to be homed in the country where
    the conference takes place. The Linux Foundation is based in the US,
    but has run (or will be running) conferences in Canada, Korea, Japan,
    China, Ireland, Germany, the Czech Republic, etc.

    These organizations all employ profession event/conference planners, and
    can handle signing legal contracts with hotels, caterers, restaurants,
    etc., thus shielding the techies from legal liability, as well as
    generally being able to do a much better job at running a conference
    compared to techie who tries to pretend to be an event planner on the
    side. The tradeoff is that while the conferences do tend to be more polished, having professional, paid staff is expensive. And so
    typically, to go down this path, the conferences need to hit up
    corporate sponsors to help pay for the event.

    Using one of these professional organizations is going to significantly change the characgter of Debconf.

    Right, I'm fairly dubious that we want to go in that direction. That's
    wmy the mental model I had was more like the World Science Fiction
    Convention (Worldcon), which avoids using professional event planners but
    still has a legal structure to limit liability, despite running
    conventions all over the world.

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    Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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