• Bug#872587: debian-policy: please document "Important: yes"

    From Adam Borowski@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 19 00:00:02 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist

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  • From Adam Borowski@21:1/5 to Sean Whitton on Sat Aug 19 01:00:02 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist

    Control: block 872587 by 872589

    On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 02:28:22PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
    On Fri, Aug 18 2017, Adam Borowski wrote:
    Thus, some Policy guidance would be nice. Is it legal to use "Important: yes" at this moment?

    It wouldn't be up to policy whether it's legal. We document fields in
    policy once they are already in use in the archive.

    src:util-linux just added it on two of its binaries (mount and fdisk), thus
    the field can be said to be in use.

    Do you have any idea how long we can expect to wait until dpkg supports
    the field? I would suggest that we wait until dpkg has defined
    behaviour for the field, as it will make documenting it much easier. It
    will also allow us to be more confident that there is no serious
    disagreement about the purpose of the field.

    Right, let's have dpkg maintainers tell us what they think.

    I couldn't find a bug against dpkg, but if there is one, it should
    probably be set to block this bug.

    872587 < 872589, I filed the Policy one first. Block added.


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  • From Sean Whitton@21:1/5 to Adam Borowski on Sat Aug 19 00:40:02 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist

    Hello Adam,

    Thank you for filing this bug.

    On Fri, Aug 18 2017, Adam Borowski wrote:

    On the other hand, dpkg does not know the field. It won't say a word upon removal, and dpkg-gencontrol silently removes it.
    [...]
    Thus, some Policy guidance would be nice. Is it legal to use "Important: yes" at this moment?

    It wouldn't be up to policy whether it's legal. We document fields in
    policy once they are already in use in the archive.

    Do you have any idea how long we can expect to wait until dpkg supports
    the field? I would suggest that we wait until dpkg has defined
    behaviour for the field, as it will make documenting it much easier. It
    will also allow us to be more confident that there is no serious
    disagreement about the purpose of the field.

    I couldn't find a bug against dpkg, but if there is one, it should
    probably be set to block this bug.

    --
    Sean Whitton

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  • From Bastian Blank@21:1/5 to Sean Whitton on Sat Aug 19 10:10:01 2017
    XPost: linux.debian.bugs.dist

    On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 02:28:22PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
    Do you have any idea how long we can expect to wait until dpkg supports
    the field? I would suggest that we wait until dpkg has defined
    behaviour for the field, as it will make documenting it much easier. It
    will also allow us to be more confident that there is no serious
    disagreement about the purpose of the field.

    If he just want to use the field, no change to dpkg is necessary. dpkg supports user defined fields since at least 15 years, when d-i started
    to rely on them. See deb-src-control(5) for information.

    Bastian

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