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    From Jonathan Wiltshire@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 7 20:00:02 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November
    2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend
    following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Thanks,

    --
    Jonathan Wiltshire jmw@debian.org
    Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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  • From Jonathan Wiltshire@21:1/5 to Jonathan Wiltshire on Sat Oct 7 23:10:02 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
    November, not December. The correct proposals should be:

    2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
    9th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Thanks,

    --
    Jonathan Wiltshire jmw@debian.org
    Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Jonathan Wiltshire on Sun Oct 8 16:50:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On 7 October 2023 21:59:53 BST, Jonathan Wiltshire <jmw@debian.org> wrote:
    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
    November, not December. The correct proposals should be:

    2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
    9th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Thanks,


    Hi all.

    I can do both weekends, but unfortunately Isy will be unavailable for either date as she will be doing her mock exams.

    Given Isy's exams however, it will not be possible to host the images team in Cottenham either date, sorry.

    All the best
    /Andy

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  • From Donald Norwood@21:1/5 to Andy on Mon Oct 9 18:40:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot
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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Donald Norwood on Mon Oct 9 18:40:02 2023
    On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 12:30:02PM -0400, Donald Norwood wrote:
    Hi,

    Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in November, not December. The correct proposals should be:

    2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
    9th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Thanks,


    All the best
    /Andy

    Press can do both weekends, will Andy's image host affect new dates proposed?


    <Large amounts snipped>

    Hi Donald,

    Andy was kind enough to host the images team this weekend such that the build took place from his house on the other side of Cambridge (from "normal" at Sledge's house),

    Isy has important exams - so can't take part in the testing those weekends - and Andy's been preemptive in confirming that he *can't* _host_ that weekend but may be able to take part himself as part of the team.

    It sounds as if we'll likely be back to Sledge's, then, if that is feasible.

    Thanks to both Sledge and RattusRattus for unfailing hospitality.

    I foresee a trip to Cambridge twice inside a fortnight for me, anyway.

    Andy Cater
    [amacater@debian.org]
    --



    Be well,

    -Donald

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  • From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 16:50:02 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Jonathan Wiltshire <jmw@debian.org> (2023-10-07):
    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    The later the better.


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Jonathan Wiltshire on Fri Oct 27 12:30:02 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(

    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November >2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th >November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend >following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Both of those currently look feasible for me.

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
    English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on
    occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them
    unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James D. Nicoll

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Steve McIntyre on Thu Nov 9 16:00:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(

    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November >>2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th >>November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend >>following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Both of those currently look feasible for me.

    Do we have a decision being made yet please?

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com "War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
    -- Bertrand Russell

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Jonathan Wiltshire on Thu Nov 9 19:20:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Sat, 2023-10-07 at 21:59 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
    November, not December. The correct proposals should be:

    2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
    9th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Sorry for not replying sooner.

    I'd prefer not the 2nd, because that means handling the freeze while at miniconf. The 9th should be OK.

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Steve McIntyre on Thu Nov 9 19:20:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 14:55 +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(

    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of
    November
    2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already
    know the 28th
    November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the
    weekend
    following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Both of those currently look feasible for me.

    Do we have a decision being made yet please?

    Assuming everyone's still OK with their previous responses, it looks
    like we're going for December 9th. (Not the 11th, as Jonathan
    apparently fails at using a calendar.)

    If anyone's not happy with that, please yell *soon*.

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Andy Simpkins@21:1/5 to Adam D. Barratt on Thu Nov 9 20:20:01 2023
    On 9 November 2023 18:15:43 GMT, "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:
    On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 14:55 +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(

    On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of
    November
    2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already
    know the 28th
    November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the
    weekend
    following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Both of those currently look feasible for me.

    Do we have a decision being made yet please?

    Assuming everyone's still OK with their previous responses, it looks
    like we're going for December 9th. (Not the 11th, as Jonathan
    apparently fails at using a calendar.)

    If anyone's not happy with that, please yell *soon*.

    Regards,

    Adam



    Adam,

    All good for me. But as previously mentioned Isy will pass due to sitting mock exams both sides

    /Andy

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  • From Luna Jernberg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 30 01:00:01 2023
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hey!

    As i said on IRC earlier yesterday i should be able to help with some
    ISO CD testing this round too

    Den lör 7 okt. 2023 kl 19:59 skrev Jonathan Wiltshire <jmw@debian.org>:

    Hi,

    The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November 2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

    Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

    How about:
    4th December (better for cadence)
    11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

    Thanks,

    --
    Jonathan Wiltshire jmw@debian.org
    Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw

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