I think it'd make sense to have at least 2 releases:
- 1 around mid-May;
- 1 around end of May.
The first one would bundle a bunch of the fixes or improvements being
worked on these days, making sure everything works as intended.
The second one would be an “everything is frozen, we upload d-i one
last time” release, which could include a few last-minute fixes or improvements if required or desired.
I'm happy to touch base with the release team again when we approach
end of May, to see what would be considered best for the (hopefully)
final d-i upload (and d-i-n-i, at least a dinstall afterward). It
might make sense not to wait too much before doing so, in case we end
up having to fix a package or two, and re-upload…
Regarding the final release, I'm happy to perform a final d-i upload
if some packages needed an update since RC 4… but hopefully the last
build can be reused without any changes.
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Dates that have been announced[1] so far:
- 2023-05-24: full freeze
- 2023-05-28: last moment to file unblock requests
- 2023-06-03: bookworm totally frozen
(per “last week prior to the release”)
1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/04/msg00007.html
On the d-i side, we'll have a round of translation updates, along
with some last tweaks, before RC 4.
As far as I understand, at least at the moment, we aren't expecting a
new linux upload before the release. But if the need arises, we should
be able to deal with it.
I'm not sure what the best timeline would be for RC 4. Let's consider
two options:
- [Soon] Example: May 25.
- [Later] Window: May 28 - June 3.
In the first case, we would have a little more time to sort incoming installation reports, and to react if needed. We might need a final
upload of debian-installer(-netboot-images).
I might pick a last minute tasksel change as well (for lxqt); I think
it would help, could break, but that would be trivially revertable
(and there would be room to do so, see below).
Checked with Salvatore: still no upload planned before the release.
I think I'll go for this one, aiming for May 25 or May 26 unless some
issues pop up.
We know we have at least the apt vs. adduser issue that's going to get resolved, and I'd prefer not to wait for it, and also not to rush the
update into testing…
Also, we might have other packages that directly (because they produce
udebs) or indirectly (because they're installed on every system, like
apt) affect the installer or the installation process… migrate to
testing later on.
Let's consider a last debian-installer(-netboot-images) upload once
Bookworm is definitely frozen, maybe a few days before the release to minimize the chances of having to consider a last-minute critical
bugfix. Once it's in testing, we could even build images like we would
for “D-I Bookworm RC 5”, just to be on the extra safe side. Those could be fetched by testers, but wouldn't be signed or announced (keeping them
in the “usual dot directory”, deleting them a few days later). That
would give us some extra peace of mind for the actual 12.0.0 images
build that will happen on release day.
At the moment I've spotted three uploads:
- apt-setup (1:0.183), for ports architectures.
- preseed (1.118), for Hurd, even if the changelog is not quite verbose
about that part…
- vte2.91 (0.70.5-1): new upstream (bugfix) release with no particular
bugfixes identified.
Unless specifically requested, I don't plan on including the first two
before Bookworm because we don't need it for release architectures. I
/think/ hurd-i386 gets somewhat released from unstable, so that
shouldn't matter…
not sure about ports architectures.
Since there was good progress on the arm64 console thing (#1036952), and considering the current results of the investigation as to where vt102
comes from, and why arm64 isn't quite the deciding factor (a busybox limitation instead), I'd be happy to consider getting an updated
rootskel for migration before pseudo-RC 5 and 12.0.0. Such an upload
would need to happen quickly though… (ema bcc'd, as possible uploader,
no obligations though!).
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