• Re: CDimages go 2 NET INSTALLERS

    From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Fresh Air on Tue Nov 1 02:50:01 2022
    You don't mention exactly which page(s) you're looking at, which makes
    it difficult to identify if you've actually found a problem here. :-(

    On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 01:39:09PM -0500, Fresh Air wrote:

    It's clear to me that you all do NOT check your own links on your website.  >I'm trying to download a CD image, but wouldn't you know it, ALL TEN LINKS to >the different archs go to the "Net instal" which only has three image files. 

    The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ :

    What is a netinst image?

    The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
    Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
    (known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
    common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
    some other Debian CD/DVD images.

    Do you even link bro?

    Can you translate that to English please?

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Fresh Air on Tue Nov 1 09:50:01 2022
    On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 01:39:09PM -0500, Fresh Air wrote:
    Hello,

    It's clear to me that you all do NOT check your own links on your website.  I'm trying to download a CD image, but wouldn't you know it, ALL TEN LINKS
    to the different archs go to the "Net instal" which only has three image files.  Do you even link bro?

    This is so basic it's just laughable, and really frustrating so something so BASIC.  How hard is it to link to the correct images?  So now, I can't even download a 700MB CD image today, and have to wait on you all to fix this.  I want the CD image, and I want to be able to have the torrent link.  Sure the "server" link works, but I'm not ever going to use that when I can use the torrent.  It's less to download than a 2.5 GB ("CD") image, which you'll notice if you were to check all your links.


    https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso - is a CD image without firmware. Note the path - iso-cd indicates it
    is a CD sized image.

    Here's the corresponding image with included non-free firmware which you may need for WiFi.

    First image is directly available on the web as the first link. Second is noted from the bottom of that download link. As it happens, for the next major release of Debian, we're likely to release an image containing firmware
    by default.

    Torrent link is here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/bt-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent

    That's directly from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/ - which is the directory above.

    "Debian firmware torrent" into your favourite search engine will find you
    the first three links. One to a live CD including firmware, one to how to download Debian CD images and the third to the link I've given above.

    Do you Google, bro?

    With every good wish, as ever,

    Please, test your links BEFORE you publish them to your website.

    Thanks,

    Annoyed Linux user without working wireless drivers, and no I'm not going to run an Ethernet cable just to make it work.  So don't give the a net install for a CD IMAGE LINK.


    Andy Cater

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  • From J.A. Bezemer@21:1/5 to Steve McIntyre on Tue Nov 1 10:30:01 2022
    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote:

    [..]
    The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ :

    What is a netinst image?

    The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
    Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
    (known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
    common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
    some other Debian CD/DVD images.

    The "other *CD* images" is incorrect since we do not produce other CD
    images any more. The /CD/http-ftp/ states: "it's possible to use CD images
    (700 MB each)" which is equally incorrect. This may have caused OP's misunderstanding.

    Regards,
    Anne

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to J.A. Bezemer on Tue Nov 1 20:00:01 2022
    On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 10:07:23AM +0100, J.A. Bezemer wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2022, Steve McIntyre wrote:

    [..]
    The netinstall image *is* a CD image. For example, from

    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ :

    What is a netinst image?

    The netinst CD here is a small CD image that contains just the core
    Debian installer code and a small core set of text-mode programs
    (known as "standard" in Debian). To install a desktop or other
    common software, you'll also need either an Internet connection or
    some other Debian CD/DVD images.

    The "other *CD* images" is incorrect since we do not produce other CD images >any more. The /CD/http-ftp/ states: "it's possible to use CD images (700 MB >each)" which is equally incorrect. This may have caused OP's >misunderstanding.

    *Possibly*, yeah. Let's fix that now...

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