• Re: buster EOL (10.13) and 11.5 planning

    From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 18:30:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> (2022-07-28):
    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
    days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
    least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
    that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
    whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
    previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
    from 11.4's release date.

    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
    do them at the same time or separately.

    Leaving aside the debootstrap's pu/opu requests that I would be happy
    not to have to be involved with (trusting Luca's assessment instead),
    I'm happy to try and accommodate any dates that might be picked up for
    10.13 and 11.5, for all other installer-related tasks.


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 18:20:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
    days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
    least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
    that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
    whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
    previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
    from 11.4's release date.

    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
    do them at the same time or separately.

    Thanks,

    Adam

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  • From Luna Jernberg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 18:40:02 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    All dates works for me

    On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 6:11 PM Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:

    Hi,

    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
    days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
    least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
    that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
    whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
    previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
    from 11.4's release date.

    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
    do them at the same time or separately.

    Thanks,

    Adam



    <div dir="ltr">All dates works for me<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 6:11 PM Adam D. Barratt &lt;<a href="mailto:adam@adam-barratt.org.uk">adam@adam-barratt.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><
    blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>

    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few<br> days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at<br> least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:<br>

    - August 20<br>
    - [August 27 doesn&#39;t work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]<br> - September 3rd<br>
    - September 10th<br>

    We&#39;re currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but<br> that was also about 6 weeks late. It&#39;s therefore worth considering<br> whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the<br> previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months<br>
    from 11.4&#39;s release date.<br>

    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above<br>
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should<br>
    do them at the same time or separately.<br>

    Thanks,<br>

    Adam<br>

    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Adam Barratt on Fri Jul 29 00:50:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hey Adam!

    On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 05:09:52PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:

    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a few
    days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need at
    least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    August 20th or September 10th work best for me, with a slight
    preference for the latter so we have as much time as possible for shim
    signing in the two releases. I can do September 3rd at a push, but
    it will be difficult for me to commit to a double release that weekend
    as I have plans on Sunday 4th.

    We're currently only 3 weeks past the 11.4 bullseye point release, but
    that was also about 6 weeks late. It's therefore worth considering
    whether we want to try and get 11.5 out sooner and get back onto the
    previous track, or delay it a little more and aim for every two months
    from 11.4's release date.

    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
    do them at the same time or separately.

    Happy to do a double release on 20/08 or 10/09, or a single release or
    03/09.

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com “Why do people find DNS so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and
    naming things.”
    -– Jeff Waugh (https://twitter.com/jdub)

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  • From Ansgar@21:1/5 to Adam D. Barratt on Sun Aug 7 20:10:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 17:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    All dates should still work for me.

    any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
    separately.

    Either is fine with me.

    Ansgar

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  • From RattusRattus@21:1/5 to Ansgar on Sun Aug 7 20:30:01 2022
    On 07/08/2022 19:06, Ansgar wrote:
    Hi,

    On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 17:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    All dates should still work for me.

    any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
    separately.

    Either is fine with me.

    Ansgar



    Both September dates work for both Isy and myself... Sorry I will be in Nottingham with family on the 20th Aug (and BBQ on 27th)

    /Andy

    --

    /RattusRattus
    Debian is not always the answer, however it is surprising how many times
    it is...

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Adam D. Barratt on Fri Aug 12 22:20:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 17:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    Use of buster-security will pass from the Security Team to LTS in a
    few
    days time, so we should get the EOL point release organised. We need
    at
    least a couple of weeks to get things sorted, so as some suggestions:

    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so
    nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th
    [...]
    tl;dr - please indicate your availability / preferences for the above
    dates (for both 10.13 and 11.5) and any opinions on whether we should
    do them at the same time or separately.


    Thanks for the replies.

    We're not ready to freeze this weekend, so I'm planning on going for
    September 10th for both 10.13 and 11.5.

    I'll likely freeze 10.13 around the weekend of the 27th / early the
    following week to give us a little more time than the usual week to
    make sure we've got everything sorted.

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Luna Jernberg@21:1/5 to ansgar@43-1.org on Sat Sep 10 13:30:01 2022
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    I am helping out atm :)

    On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 8:08 PM Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> wrote:

    Hi,

    On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 17:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    - August 20
    - [August 27 doesn't work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]
    - September 3rd
    - September 10th

    All dates should still work for me.

    any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or
    separately.

    Either is fine with me.

    Ansgar



    <div dir="ltr">I am helping out atm :)<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 8:08 PM Ansgar &lt;<a href="mailto:ansgar@43-1.org">ansgar@43-1.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_
    quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>

    On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 17:09 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:<br>
    &gt; - August 20<br>
    &gt; - [August 27 doesn&#39;t work for at least me and the Images Team, so nope]<br>
    &gt; - September 3rd<br>
    &gt; - September 10th<br>

    All dates should still work for me.<br>

    &gt; any opinions on whether we should do them at the same time or<br>
    &gt; separately.<br>

    Either is fine with me.<br>

    Ansgar<br>

    </blockquote></div>

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