• 11.1 and 10.11 planning

    From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 6 14:00:02 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
    bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

    Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
    2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
    my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side is
    so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are therefore
    whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if not, how
    close together they should be.

    A few suggested dates to get things going:

    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me
    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 6 14:00:01 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi Adam,

    Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> (2021-09-06):
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

    Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
    2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
    my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
    is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
    therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
    not, how close together they should be.

    A few suggested dates to get things going:

    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me
    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
    picked up.


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Adam Barratt on Mon Sep 6 14:40:02 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 12:51:07PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
    Hi,

    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the >bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

    Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
    2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
    my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side is
    so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are therefore >whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if not, how
    close together they should be.

    A few suggested dates to get things going:

    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me
    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    At this point I'm free for all of those weekends.

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com “Why do people find DNS so difficult? It’s just cache invalidation and
    naming things.”
    -– Jeff Waugh (https://twitter.com/jdub)

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  • From Andy Simpkins@21:1/5 to Cyril Brulebois on Mon Sep 6 15:10:02 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On 06/09/2021 12:58, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
    Hi Adam,

    Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> (2021-09-06):
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
    bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

    Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
    2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
    my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
    is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
    therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
    not, how close together they should be.

    A few suggested dates to get things going:

    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me
    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
    picked up.


    Cheers,



    I can do all of the above dates except the 2nd October (wedding anniversary)

    Whilst it is normal to run a point release on old stable at the same
    time as stable it does mean that we don't give the images in the old
    stable point release as much testing as perhaps they should because we
    are all 'too tired' by the time that we get round to them. that said
    that is what the Sunday is for...

    /Andy

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  • From Laura Arjona Reina@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 10 19:00:02 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Sorry for the delay

    El 6 de septiembre de 2021 13:58:14 CEST, Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> escribió:
    Hi Adam,

    Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> (2021-09-06):
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of the
    bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.

    Traditionally, we've combined stable and oldstable point releases (at
    2- and 4-month cadences) while both are supported. That would still be
    my preference, but I understand that not everyone on the Images side
    is so keen on the idea. Open questions in addition to dates are
    therefore whether we should do 10.11 and 11.1 on the same day and, if
    not, how close together they should be.

    A few suggested dates to get things going:

    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me
    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Regarding d-i preps, I should be able to accomodate anything that gets
    picked up.

    Same for publicity/website, we can do on any date and we have no particular preference on 10+11 together or in separate weekends.

    Kind regards

    --
    Laura Arjona Reina
    https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
    Sent with K-9 mail

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  • From Adam D. Barratt@21:1/5 to Adam D. Barratt on Tue Sep 14 20:10:01 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    Hi,

    Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
    happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

    On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 12:51 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
    the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
    [...]
    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me

    The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images
    Team available then we're looking at:

    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
    point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
    on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
    or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
    case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

    Regards,

    Adam

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  • From Steve McIntyre@21:1/5 to Adam Barratt on Tue Sep 14 21:20:01 2021
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.maint.boot

    On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 07:04:11PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
    Hi,

    Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
    happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

    On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 12:51 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
    the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
    [...]
    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me

    The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images
    Team available then we're looking at:

    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
    point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
    on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
    or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
    case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

    I'm happy either way, I think Andy was less sure in the case that we
    got him to do both? :-)

    --
    Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. steve@einval.com "Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out
    whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast."
    Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html

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  • From Andy Simpkins@21:1/5 to Steve McIntyre on Wed Sep 15 22:10:02 2021
    On 14/09/2021 20:14, Steve McIntyre wrote:
    On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 07:04:11PM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote:
    Hi,

    Thanks for the responses everyone. Mark indicated on IRC that he'd be
    happy to be ftpmaster-du-jour on any of the dates.

    On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 12:51 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
    We've ended up being late with planning 10.11 due to the timing of
    the bullseye release, and also need to look at getting 11.1 sorted.
    [...]
    September 18th - not great; means freezing this coming weekend
    September 25th - not great; I'm away during most of the week
    beforehand, so will be unlikely to be able to deal with any issues,
    make sure everything's ready, etc.
    October 2nd - OK for me

    The conclusion seems to be that if we want to have all of the Images
    Team available then we're looking at:

    October 9th - OK for me
    October 16th - OK for me

    Images Team, what was the conclusion in terms of timing for the two
    point releases? Are you happy for the archive side for both to happen
    on the same day, with image testing for buster possibly being delayed,
    or would you prefer to try and separate the whole process? (In which
    case we would need all teams available for multiple dates.)

    I'm happy either way, I think Andy was less sure in the case that we
    got him to do both? :-)


    given that Steve will be around I am happy for both in one day :-)

    /Andy

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  • From Cyril Brulebois@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 16 02:50:01 2021
    Hi,

    Andy Simpkins <andy@koipond.org.uk> (2021-09-15):
    given that Steve will be around I am happy for both in one day :-)

    If that was meant as a reply to everyone rather than an internal
    confirmation on debian-cd@, maybe send the same mail via reply-all? :)


    Cheers,
    --
    Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
    D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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