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  • Debian 9 on hercules

    From Bercik@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 18 22:00:01 2017
    Hello folks,

    I'll be brief: tried to install new Debian 9 into hercules. IPL stops
    when we are about to set up network interfaces.
    - Tried with netinstall, xfce and clean IPL from reader.
    - Tried with hercules 3.07 and new hyperion

    I remember that other distros (RHEL, SLES, Ubuntu) stopped with
    comment they require modern hardware (modern CPU versions), but here
    I get nothing... it just stops.


    Log here:
    4.761929! Brought up 8 CPUs
    5.008546! clocksource: jiffies: mask: 0xffffffff max_cycles: 0xffffffff, ma
    6.470271! VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.6.0
    6.573463! NET: Registered protocol family 1
    25.021915! Freeing initrd memory: 10152K (0000000001000000 - 00000000019ea00
    25.216489! audit: initializing netlink subsys (disabled)
    25.338155! Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 2
    25.442243! registered taskstats version 1
    25.827984! ima: No TPM chip found, activating TPM-bypass
    27.853568! ctcm: CTCM driver initialized
    28.254244! random: crng init done
    Starting system log daemon: syslogd,
    klogd.
    1;24r 4l(B)0 m 1;24r H J 24;1H m
    1;24r 4l(B)0 m 1;24r H J 24;1H m
    Configure the network device


    Any ideas?

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    Bart³omiej "Bercik" Kacprzak

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  • From Ivan Pozderovic@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 22:10:01 2017
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  • From Philipp Kern@21:1/5 to Bercik on Sat Aug 19 22:40:01 2017
    On 19.08.2017 20:40, Bercik wrote:
    Hello again,

    I did it!  Problem is not fixed, but I figured out a workaround:
    - install Debian 8.1
    - do upgrade with 9 sources.list
    - do dist-upgrade after that


    proof:
    bercik@rescue:~$ cat /etc/issue.net 
    Debian GNU/Linux 9
    bercik@rescue:~$ uname -a
    Linux rescue 4.9.0-3-s390x #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 (2017-08-06)
    s390x GNU/Linux
    bercik@rescue:~$ date
    sob, 19 sie 2017, 20:38:28 CEST
    bercik@rescue:~$ 


    So it's not kernel issue or anything else. It must be something wrong
    with installer itself. Should I report a problem somewhere? or we are
    only ones who can't do fresh install on hercules?

    I'm happy to retest if you can give me the hercules.cnf you used.

    Kind regards
    Philipp Kern

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  • From Philipp Kern@21:1/5 to Bercik on Sun Aug 20 01:20:01 2017
    To: ivan.pozderovic@protonmail.com (Ivan Pozderovic)
    Copy: debian-s390@lists.debian.org (debian-s390@lists.debian.org)

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    On 08/19/2017 09:34 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
    So it's not kernel issue or anything else. It must be something wrong
    with installer itself. Should I report a problem somewhere? or we are
    only ones who can't do fresh install on hercules?

    I'm happy to retest if you can give me the hercules.cnf you used.

    Bercik sent me their config and I'm able to confirm the bad behavior.
    But it looks to me as if console messages are swallowed. As soon as I
    add sleep() calls around all my writes, they succeed. (Which makes
    printf debugging very weird.)

    And indeed, if I enter ".1" it continues with "The following device
    numbers might belong to CTC or ESCON connections.". So all that happens
    is that either Hercules or the kernel while sending swallows the output
    and you can't actually see the prompts. That also matches the fact that
    there are very few startup messages from the kernel altogether.
    Essentially every message that doesn't have a bunch of other messages
    following (plus the first of the batch) lands on the console, the other
    ones are discarded.

    That makes me incredibly suspicious that this is a problem in Hercules.
    It's also not in the typescript generated by script(1), so it's not
    simply overwriting screen content either. I guess we'd need to either
    raise this with the Hercules people or instrument Hercules to see where
    the lines are missed.

    Kind regards
    Philipp Kern


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  • From Peter Jansen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 20 14:00:01 2017
    I too have experienced the installation problem of Debian 9.2.1 on Hercules ending with the last visible message on the Hercules console log being "Configure the network device".

    Reading the assumption of a possible Hercules bug in this thread, I verified the Hercules source ("service.c"), and added some extra debugging code. The result of this (bit more than trivial) exercise is that I cannot find any problems on the Hercules side of things. The fact that Debian 8.9.0 does
    this correctly also reinforces my suspicion that this is probably not a Hercules bug, but rather a Debian 9 or Debian 9 installer bug.

    As a side note, my successful circumvention to obtain a working Debian 9.2.1 s390x installation was to perform it under VM under Hercules. The final
    result IPL's just fine under Hercules without VM, using Hercules Spinhawk
    3.13 or Hercules 4.0 Hyperion, both the official Hyperion as well as the SDL Hyperion by "Fish". I am now in the process of (a) trying to find out why
    the CTCM device does not always come on-line by itself, sometimes I need to "shutdown -r now" a few times on the Hercules console, (b) learning how to
    do a persistent addition of an LCS device, (c) repeating the same
    installation with a QETH device under Hyperion, which works, but also not always comes on-line by itself, and if it does, ignores the static IP
    address setup but goes DHCP instead. I might need to ask for support later, right now I'm still in the learning phase of things.

    Thanks,

    Peter J. Jansen

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  • From Jerry Heyman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 6 19:30:02 2018
    I have downloaded the latest Debian 9 DVD ISO for s390x - debian-9.3.0-s390x-DVD-1.iso - and the installation hang
    issue is still present. Is there an actual solution for Debian 9, or can someone point me to where I can download a
    Debian 8 s390x ISO?

    Thanks!

    jerry



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  • From Peter Jansen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 7 04:20:01 2018
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    In the mean time the hang problem has been fixed, on both the official Hyperion and SDL Fish Hyperion forks, and also on my fork of the Spinhawk Hercules (https://github.com/Peter-J-Jansen/spinhawk; a pull request has been issued).

    However, installing Debian 9 directly under Hercules still encounters problems with both the CTCI and OSA layer 2 and layer 3 devices. (I will investigate this further after my vacation, and try to find and fix the problem.) Only the installation of
    Debian 9 under VM works fine. The resulting Debian 9 works fine, also when IPL‘d directly under Hercules.

    Peter Jansen

    Sent from my iPhone

    On 7 Feb 2018, at 01:25, Jerry Heyman <heymanj@acm.org> wrote:

    I have downloaded the latest Debian 9 DVD ISO for s390x - debian-9.3.0-s390x-DVD-1.iso - and the installation hang
    issue is still present. Is there an actual solution for Debian 9, or can someone point me to where I can download a
    Debian 8 s390x ISO?

    Thanks!

    jerry



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    <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">In the mean time the hang problem has been fixed, on both the official Hyperion and SDL Fish Hyperion forks, and also on my fork of the Spinhawk
    Hercules (<a href="https://github.com/Peter-J-Jansen/spinhawk">https://github.com/Peter-J-Jansen/spinhawk</a>; a pull request has been issued).<div><br></div><div>However, installing Debian 9 directly under Hercules still encounters problems with both
    the CTCI and OSA layer 2 and layer 3 devices. (I will investigate this further after my vacation, and try to find and fix the problem.) Only the installation of Debian 9 under VM works fine. The resulting Debian 9 works fine, also when IPL‘d directly
    under Hercules.</div><div><br></div><div>Peter Jansen<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 7 Feb 2018, at 01:25, Jerry Heyman &lt;<a href="mailto:heymanj@acm.org">heymanj@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote
    type="cite"><div><span>I have downloaded the latest Debian 9 DVD ISO for s390x -</span><br><span>debian-9.3.0-s390x-DVD-1.iso - and the installation hang </span><br><span>issue is still present. &nbsp;Is there an actual solution for Debian 9, or can</
    span><br><span>someone point me to where I can download a </span><br><span>Debian 8 s390x ISO?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks!</span><br><span></span><br><span>jerry</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>--</span><br>
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