• Is there a way to set up a sid environment at this time?

    From Shriram Ravindranathan@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 15:00:01 2024
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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Shriram Ravindranathan on Tue Mar 12 15:10:01 2024
    On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 07:25:56PM +0530, Shriram Ravindranathan wrote:
    Dear Mentors,

    Unfortunately, my SD card got corrupted (SD Card moment) and I do not have access to a sid environment right now. Is there a way to debootstrap a sid environment for packaging (from trixie perhaps) while the time_t transition is going on?
    You should be able to debootstrap testing and you also should be able to upgrade it to sid. This worked for me right now for amd64.

    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Alexander Reichle-Schmehl@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 15:20:02 2024
    Hi!

    Am 2024-03-12 14:55, schrieb Shriram Ravindranathan:

    Unfortunately, my SD card got corrupted (SD Card moment) and I do not
    have access to a sid environment right now. Is there a way to
    debootstrap a sid environment for packaging (from trixie perhaps)
    while the time_t transition is going on?

    Untested, just as an idea: You can debootstrap via snapshot.debian.org
    from a point before the transition started?


    Best regards,
    Alexander

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  • From Andrey Rakhmatullin@21:1/5 to Shriram Ravindranathan on Tue Mar 12 16:40:01 2024
    On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 08:54:49PM +0530, Shriram Ravindranathan wrote:
    When I did a dist-upgrade from trixie it seemed to remove a bunch of necessary packages with error messages like this:
    This is not my experience with a minimal debootstrapped chroot.

    Although just now I noticed there are no errors when I replace trixie with sid in sources.list and run `apt upgrade`. I suppose this would be
    sufficient for packaging?
    If you mean upgrade instead of dist-upgrade then that's not a real sid
    chroot.


    --
    WBR, wRAR

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  • From Wookey@21:1/5 to Shriram Ravindranathan on Tue Mar 12 17:50:02 2024
    On 2024-03-12 19:25 +0530, Shriram Ravindranathan wrote:
    Dear Mentors,

    Unfortunately, my SD card got corrupted (SD Card moment) and I do not have access to a sid environment right now. Is there a way to debootstrap a sid environment for packaging (from trixie perhaps) while the time_t transition is going on?

    Yes. I made one yesterday evening with debootstrap (for amd64) and it
    worked fine. But things are both in flux and in a less-than ideal
    state at the moment so I think it's a bit random exactly what does and
    doesn't work at any given moment. We are working on unbunging things
    so we can get back to our usual level of smooth updates soon. I expect
    unstable to be rather more unstable than usual for another week or
    two.

    Wookey
    --
    Principal hats: Debian, Wookware, ARM
    http://wookware.org/

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