• Re: what about package for my simple program

    From =?UTF-8?B?0J7Qu9C10LMg0J/Rg9GH0LjQv@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 11:40:02 2023
    I am a dumb programmer. Not a maintainer

    чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 15:17, Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org>:

    Hi Oleg,

    debian-devel is the wrong mailing list for your topic, may I re-suggest to move
    this thread to the debian-mentors mailing list, which is more appropiate. (I've set the Reply-To Header to hint your MUA accordingly.)

    (For d-mentors readers, the original thread on debian-devel is starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/08/msg00016.html)

    There is a FAQ on debian-mentors: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq and
    when reading it you will also find the link to the mailing list ;-)

    Regarding how to contribute to Debian and get your software into Debian, there are quite a few resources you should read, see the section
    "How do I make my first package?" on the FAQ linked above and additionally read https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/ to get you started.

    Additionally, as you are the author of the software, this is a dedicated resource for this case, please read carefully: https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide

    --
    Cheers,
    tobi


    On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 02:57:06PM +0600, Олег Пучинин wrote:
    I think it is necessary first correctly, through github, and only then
    .deb

    чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 14:26, Олег Пучинин <
    puchininolegigorevich@gmail.com>:

    Hi !
    Ok !
    how to commit to Github ?
    I can't upload files
    github.com/OlegPuchinin123/go_brut_x
    I use SVN.
    How to commit new version ?
    Can you check ?

    Oleg.

    чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 14:15, Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org>:

    Please answer to the list address.

    What did you try?

    What doesn't work?

    Where can we see shat you try?

    Regards

    Mechtilde




    Am 03.08.23 um 08:55 schrieb Олег Пучинин:
    I tried :(

    чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 12:18, Mechtilde Stehmann <
    mechtilde@debian.org>:

    Hello

    Am 02.08.23 um 16:40 schrieb Олег Пучинин:
    sf.net/projects/go-brut-x


    you can try to package it yourself.

    For questions about packaging use

    debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
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    Mechtilde Stehmann
    ## Debian Developer
    ## PGP encryption welcome
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    Mechtilde Stehmann
    ## Debian Developer
    ## PGP encryption welcome
    ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F




    <div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="gmail-jCAhz gmail-ChMk0b"><span class="gmail-ryNqvb">I am a dumb programmer.</span></span> <span class="gmail-jCAhz gmail-ChMk0b"><span class="gmail-ryNqvb">Not a maintainer</span></span></
    span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 15:17, Tobias Frost &lt;<a href="mailto:tobi@debian.org">tobi@debian.org</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.
    8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Oleg,<br>

    debian-devel is the wrong mailing list for your topic, may I re-suggest to move<br>
    this thread to the debian-mentors mailing list, which is more appropiate.<br> (I&#39;ve set the Reply-To Header to hint your MUA accordingly.)<br>

    (For d-mentors readers, the original thread on debian-devel is starting at<br> <a href="https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/08/msg00016.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/08/msg00016.html</a>)<br>

    There is a FAQ on debian-mentors: <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq</a> and<br>
    when reading it you will also find the link to the mailing list ;-)<br>

    Regarding how to contribute to Debian and get your software into Debian,<br> there are quite a few resources you should read, see the section<br>
    &quot;How do I make my first package?&quot; on the FAQ linked above and additionally<br>
    read <a href="https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/</a> to get you started.<br>

    Additionally, as you are the author of the software, this is a dedicated<br> resource for this case, please read carefully: <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide</a><br>

    -- <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    tobi<br>


    On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 02:57:06PM +0600, Олег Пучинин wrote:<br> &gt; I think it is necessary first correctly, through github, and only then .deb<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 14:26, Олег Пучинин &lt;<a href="mailto:puchininolegigorevich@gmail.com" target="_blank">puchininolegigorevich@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
    &gt; <br>
    &gt; &gt; Hi !<br>
    &gt; &gt; Ok !<br>
    &gt; &gt; how to commit to Github ?<br>
    &gt; &gt; I can&#39;t upload files<br>
    &gt; &gt; <a href="http://github.com/OlegPuchinin123/go_brut_x" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">github.com/OlegPuchinin123/go_brut_x</a><br>
    &gt; &gt; I use SVN.<br>
    &gt; &gt; How to commit new version ?<br>
    &gt; &gt; Can you check ?<br>
    &gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt; Oleg.<br>
    &gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt; чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 14:15, Mechtilde Stehmann &lt;<a href="mailto:mechtilde@debian.org" target="_blank">mechtilde@debian.org</a>&gt;:<br>
    &gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Please answer to the list address.<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; What did you try?<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; What doesn&#39;t work?<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Where can we see shat you try?<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Regards<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Mechtilde<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Am 03.08.23 um 08:55 schrieb Олег Пучинин:<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I  tried :(<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 12:18, Mechtilde Stehmann &lt;<a href="mailto:mechtilde@debian.org" target="_blank">mechtilde@debian.org</a>&gt;:<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hello<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Am 02.08.23 um 16:40 schrieb Олег Пучинин:<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://sf.net/projects/go-brut-x" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sf.net/projects/go-brut-x</a><br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; you can try to package it yourself.<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; For questions about packaging use<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:debian-mentors@lists.debian.org" target="_blank">debian-mentors@lists.debian.org</a><br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Mechtilde Stehmann<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ## Debian Developer<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ## PGP encryption welcome<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899  39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; --<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; Mechtilde Stehmann<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; ## Debian Developer<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; ## PGP encryption welcome<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt; ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899  39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F<br>
    &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
    &gt; &gt;<br>
    </blockquote></div>

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  • From Tobias Frost@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 12:30:01 2023
    On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:18:48PM +0600, Олег Пучинин wrote:
    I am a dumb programmer. Not a maintainer

    That's a starting point :)

    A programmer can be a maintainer, And $stuff can be learned, so
    even if it true that you currently do not have the required skills (which I cannot judge, because the only interaction we had is this mails), this is
    not an obstacle.

    (That of course requires you to *want* to learn the requred skills, IOW,
    invest the required time; Not wanting to is a perfectly fine decission.)


    Howver, let's step back for a minute and look at your original question:
    "what about package for my simple program"

    If you want your program be packaged for Debian, you have basically two options:
    1) package it yourself, (becoming the maintainer.)
    2) wait until it is packaged by someone else.

    I've outlined the way for 1) already, but from your response, it seems that this is not your favorite option, which is OK, as said before.

    So let's take a look at 2):
    This generally requires that someone is interested in having your program in Debian and wanting to do the work of maintaining of it. There is no gurantee that this will happen, but if you want hint other peoples to consider your program, you want to file a "RFP" bug against the wnpp pseudo packagea.
    You can read more about those here: https://wiki.debian.org/RFP
    and (with instructions how to use reportbug to file it properly) https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/.


    Cheers,
    --
    tobi


    чт, 3 авг. 2023 г. в 15:17, Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org>:

    Hi Oleg,

    debian-devel is the wrong mailing list for your topic, may I re-suggest to move
    this thread to the debian-mentors mailing list, which is more appropiate. (I've set the Reply-To Header to hint your MUA accordingly.)

    (For d-mentors readers, the original thread on debian-devel is starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/08/msg00016.html)

    There is a FAQ on debian-mentors: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq and
    when reading it you will also find the link to the mailing list ;-)

    Regarding how to contribute to Debian and get your software into Debian, there are quite a few resources you should read, see the section
    "How do I make my first package?" on the FAQ linked above and additionally read https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/ to get you started.

    Additionally, as you are the author of th