• tomcat9 in buster-backports vs. security

    From Thorsten Glaser@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 10 22:10:01 2021
    Hi,

    the tomcat9 backport is pretty much orphaned: newer tomcat9
    versions don’t even build in buster any more¹, and both
    bullseye² and buster received security fixes recently.

    ① One built in bullseye works on buster but that is, of course,
    no option for bpo. (It works for my sysvinit-compatible local
    builds though.)
    ② Although waiting for -3 before acting would be best.

    Markus, Emmanuel, are you going to update the backport to the
    latest version (9.0.43-3 or 9.0.43-3~deb11u1 once migrated)
    fixing the compile time problem (some constants for Java™ 15
    and newer are not defined yet) because the alternative is to
    request removal of the backport now and informing the users.

    bye,
    //mirabilos
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  • From Markus Koschany@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 10 22:40:01 2021
    Hi,

    Am Dienstag, dem 10.08.2021 um 22:00 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
    [...]
    Markus, Emmanuel, are you going to update the backport to the
    latest version (9.0.43-3 or 9.0.43-3~deb11u1 once migrated)
    fixing the compile time problem (some constants for Java™ 15
    and newer are not defined yet) because the alternative is to
    request removal of the backport now and informing the users.

    Currently I don't plan to update the bpo version of Tomcat 9 in Buster. If you prefer the latest updates then I'd suggest to focus on bullseye-backports from now on. I am not sure yet if the regression which I have fixed in 9.0.43-3 requires another security update for bullseye or buster at the moment, since an easy workaround is available and probably not many users are affected. I will monitor the situation though.

    Regards,

    Markus

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  • From Thorsten Glaser@21:1/5 to Markus Koschany on Tue Aug 10 22:50:02 2021
    On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Markus Koschany wrote:

    Currently I don't plan to update the bpo version of Tomcat 9 in Buster. If you
    prefer the latest updates then I'd suggest to focus on bullseye-backports from

    I think you misunderstood the intention of this request.

    Packages in $version-backports have to be up-to-date wrt.
    their corresponding packages from $(version+1), except
    small, not very user-visible, etc. changes.

    In the case of security updates, this is even more important.

    The person who uploaded the first backport basically agreed
    to keep the tomcat9 backport up-to-date over the lifetime of
    buster-backports, that is, to approximately 14/15ᵗʰ August 2022(!).

    now on. I am not sure yet if the regression which I have fixed in
    9.0.43-3 requires another security update for bullseye or buster at
    the moment, since an easy workaround is available and probably not
    many users are affected. I will monitor the situation though.

    Right.

    However, if you’re not intending to update the buster backport,
    please file a removal request and inform the users (via the bpo
    mailing list) about this and the extant security issues in the
    version they have installed.

    Thanks,
    //mirabilos

    ObPlug: http://www.mirbsd.org/~tg/Debs/dists/buster/lts/Pkgs/tomcat9/
    is what I try to keep reasonably up to date. It also contains
    the sysvinit fixes. It’s built in a bullseye chroot though,
    and as such does NOT follow the bpo rules. It’s a works-for-me
    thing which one MAY use if they want, at their own risk.
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  • From Markus Koschany@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 10 23:00:02 2021
    Am Dienstag, dem 10.08.2021 um 22:47 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
    On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Markus Koschany wrote:

    Currently I don't plan to update the bpo version of Tomcat 9 in Buster. If you
    prefer the latest updates then I'd suggest to focus on bullseye-backports from

    I think you misunderstood the intention of this request.

    Packages in $version-backports have to be up-to-date wrt.
    their corresponding packages from $(version+1), except
    small, not very user-visible, etc. changes.

    In the case of security updates, this is even more important.

    The person who uploaded the first backport basically agreed
    to keep the tomcat9 backport up-to-date over the lifetime of buster-backports, that is, to approximately 14/15ᵗʰ August 2022(!).

    now on. I am not sure yet if the regression which I have fixed in
    9.0.43-3 requires another security update for bullseye or buster at
    the moment, since an easy workaround is available and probably not
    many users are affected. I will monitor the situation though.

    Right.

    However, if you’re not intending to update the buster backport,
    please file a removal request and inform the users (via the bpo
    mailing list) about this and the extant security issues in the
    version they have installed.

    I have never uploaded tomcat9 to a debian-backports suite hence why I have only replied to the debian-java list. Obviously you should wait for Emmanuel's feedback before doing anything.

    Regards,

    Markus


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  • From Thorsten Glaser@21:1/5 to Markus Koschany on Sun Aug 22 23:00:01 2021
    On Tue, 10 Aug 2021, Markus Koschany wrote:

    Obviously you should wait for Emmanuel's feedback before doing
    anything.

    So… Emmanuel?

    bye,
    //mirabilos
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  • From Markus Koschany@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 23:30:01 2021
    Hi backports team,

    please remove tomcat9 from buster-backports because Emmanuel won't have the time to update the package for the next months and I don't intend to maintain it. My recommendation for all users of tomcat9 is to use the version in buster because it receives full security support. You also have the option to upgrade to bullseye.

    Regards,

    Markus

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  • From Alexander Wirt@21:1/5 to Markus Koschany on Fri Oct 15 11:00:01 2021
    On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 11:23:01PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote:
    Hi backports team,

    please remove tomcat9 from buster-backports because Emmanuel won't have the time to update the package for the next months and I don't intend to maintain it. My recommendation for all users of tomcat9 is to use the version in buster
    because it receives full security support. You also have the option to upgrade
    to bullseye.
    Done

    Alex


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