https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/stable/hurd-i386/

I just tried the HURD image from 2019 and found a problem. I boot with the default /etc/network/interfaces and see the following (after manually adding
an IP address, that network doesn't have a DHCP server):

root@debian:~# inetutils-ifconfig
/dev/eth0 (2):
inet address 203.15.120.8
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 10.0.2.255
flags UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST
mtu 1500
link encap Ethernet
hardware addr 02:00:00:00:01:99

lo (1):
inet address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0
flags UP LOOPBACK RUNNING
mtu 3924
link encap Local Loopback

I change /etc/network/interfaces to the following:
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto /dev/eth0
iface /dev/eth0 inet static
address 203.15.120.8
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 203.15.120.1


Then after a reboot I don't see a /dev/eth0.

Any suggestions?

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On 4/30/21, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/stable/hurd-i386/

I just tried the HURD image from 2019 and found a problem. I boot with the

default /etc/network/interfaces and see the following (after manually adding

an IP address, that network doesn't have a DHCP server):

root@debian:~# inetutils-ifconfig
/dev/eth0 (2):
< snipped for brevity>

I change /etc/network/interfaces to the following:
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto /dev/eth0
iface /dev/eth0 inet static
address 203.15.120.8
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 203.15.120.1

Then after a reboot I don't see a /dev/eth0.

Any suggestions?

Hi, Russell.. I'm not an actual Hurd "user" yet, am currently just a
lurker enjoying the programming progress of something that's a little different.

That disclaimer aside, have you tried checking what the [kernel] is
doing when you boot? I've just waded through some connectivity issues
myself on regular Debian. /var/log/kern.log was my hero in fixing my
own issues in seconds now.

Debian-User list regularly suggests "dmesg" so I can also find what I
need with this:

sudo dmesg | grep renamed

Once in a while, I still have to dig through /var/log/kern.log.1 if
kern.log got too full and had to make a backup of itself.

What the above command does is find the line where the operating
system MIGHT be changing that [value] to something it thinks is best appropriate. Debian has changed it to either "eno1" or "enp1s0" on
different laptops for me. It once used both on different occasions for
the same laptop. I have no idea what happened there.

IF those renamings are occurring in your case, you could **try**
changing your own settings to reflect that system determined value
instead of eth0.

There MIGHT also be a way to interject an extra step that changes it
back to eth0 for old times' sake, but that tends to be an ongoing
"battle" of sorts to keep track of it. I attempted that route while
playing with wireless connections using wifi dongles a while back and
finally gave up "fighting" it. No regrets so far.

Hope this MAYBE helps, at least even a little, while you wait for
someone else to answer..

Cindy :)
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Russell Coker, le ven. 30 avril 2021 20:23:34 +1000, a ecrit:

Then after a reboot I don't see a /dev/eth0.

You mean you do not have a /dev/eth0 file at all any more?

This rather seems like a filesystem issue, the /dev/eth0 is not supposed
to disappear just because you changed the tcp/ip configuration, that's
at a completely different level.

You can run

dpkg-reconfigure hurd

to regenerate /dev entries.

Samuel

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Have you a etherner driver compiled in the kernel (mach) ?

NE2k dirver is not included in the default configuration of Mach.
I had to recompiled my kernel to have eth0 working.

ml.

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Marcin Laszewski, le dim. 09 mai 2021 07:34:21 +0100, a ecrit:

Have you a etherner driver compiled in the kernel (mach) ?

There is no need for that, netdde already has all the network drivers
that you'll want. And yes it's automatically set up by the debian
installer. The fact that /dev/eth0 has apparently disappeared (please
tell us exactly what this means: does /dev/eth0 not show up with ls) is
only a sign of a filesystem problem, not a network driver problem.

NE2k dirver is not included in the default configuration of Mach.
I had to recompiled my kernel to have eth0 working.

Really, no need for that, netdde obviously has a driver for ne2k.

We don't want to keep drivers inside GNU mach, that's not maintainable.

Samuel

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Thank you very much for yor explanation.

2021-05-09 11:16 GMT+02:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:

Marcin Laszewski, le dim. 09 mai 2021 07:34:21 +0100, a ecrit:

Have you a etherner driver compiled in the kernel (mach) ?

There is no need for that, netdde already has all the network drivers
that you'll want.

(...)

So, I have same problem as Russell: I don't see my ethernet cad (ISA
NE2K) using netdde. I need to include it into my Mach kernel.

ml.

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Marcin Laszewski, le lun. 10 mai 2021 07:36:19 +0200, a ecrit:

Thank you very much for yor explanation.

2021-05-09 11:16 GMT+02:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:

Marcin Laszewski, le dim. 09 mai 2021 07:34:21 +0100, a ecrit:

Have you a etherner driver compiled in the kernel (mach) ?

There is no need for that, netdde already has all the network drivers
that you'll want.

(...)

So, I have same problem as Russell: I don't see my ethernet cad (ISA
NE2K) using netdde. I need to include it into my Mach kernel.

But is netdde properly installed on /dev/netdde? as well as /dev/eth0?

Again,
*please tell us exactly what this means: does /dev/eth0 not show up with ls*

Samuel

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2021-05-10 8:35 GMT+01:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:

(...)
But is netdde properly installed on /dev/netdde? as well as /dev/eth0?

Again,
*please tell us exactly what this means: does /dev/eth0 not show up with

OK. My hardware is Celeron 300Mhz (up to 415MHZ), 512MB of RAM and
ethernet card ISA NE2000 (clone) (AUI + AUI-UTP converter).

I have no net when I use standard gnumach-1.8-486.gz from Debian.
I have recompilef *.src.deb packet of gnumach adding NE2K (configure
--with...) and now my network is working.

Thera are two files attached:
dmesg-fail.txt - standard gnumach from DEbian distro.
dmesg-ok.txt - "my" recompiled gnumach.

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Marcin Laszewski, le lun. 10 mai 2021 14:04:35 +0100, a ecrit:

2021-05-10 8:35 GMT+01:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:

(...)
But is netdde properly installed on /dev/netdde? as well as /dev/eth0?

Again,
*please tell us exactly what this means: does /dev/eth0 not show up with

OK. My hardware is

I do not care about the hardware, I care about whether /dev/eth0 shows
up with ls.

I'm sorry, but I cannot help if my questions are not actually getting
answered.

Samuel

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On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:16 AM Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote:

Marcin Laszewski, le dim. 09 mai 2021 07:34:21 +0100, a ecrit:

Have you a etherner driver compiled in the kernel (mach) ?

There is no need for that, netdde already has all the network drivers
that you'll want. And yes it's automatically set up by the debian
installer. The fact that /dev/eth0 has apparently disappeared (please
tell us exactly what this means: does /dev/eth0 not show up with ls) is
only a sign of a filesystem problem, not a network driver problem.

In the past, I experienced a hang at boot when bringing up the network
under Virtual Box. I used the default card provided by VB instead of
selecting a card for which Hurd had a driver.

After a dirty reboot (Machine -> Reset), I would lose /dev devices,
like /dev/urandom.

I assumed it was due to ext2 and lack of journaling. But I never did
track down the actual problem.

The fix (for me) was to reinstall Hurd using a network card for which
Hurd had a driver.

Jeff

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Jeffrey Walton, le lun. 10 mai 2021 12:15:55 -0400, a ecrit:

After a dirty reboot (Machine -> Reset), I would lose /dev devices,
like /dev/urandom.

Then

dpkg-reconfigure hurd

can be used to recreate them.

Samuel

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Marcin Laszewski, le lun. 10 mai 2021 14:04:35 +0100, a ecrit:

2021-05-10 8:35 GMT+01:00, Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:

(...)

I do not care about the hardware, I care about whether /dev/eth0 shows
up with ls.

I don't know. The problem is that my system shows 'Starting sshd....'
and stops during startup using kernel from Debian/Hurd disto.

I've added 'ls -l /dev/eth0' in ssh init script that my system stops
executing this command.

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