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  • Re: Any discussion of replacing MoinMoin?

    From kamaraju kusumanchi@21:1/5 to franklinyu@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 4 01:20:01 2023
    On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 6:39 PM Franklin Yu <franklinyu@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Hi folks,

    MoinMoin, the wiki software backing the Debian Wiki, has suffered from slow development recently; the latest release is in 2020, and it is written in Python
    2.7. The Python 3.5 support is still under development.

    Has anyone considered switching to any alternative? The Debian Wiki UI does not
    attract users to contribute (no Wiki syntax highlight in the editor, for example).

    One of the drawbacks of MoinMoin wiki is the lack of Section Edit
    feature. If you are choosing another wiki software, could you please
    choose something that has this feature. It would come in handy for
    editing large wiki pages.

    thanks
    raju
    --
    Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://www.kamaraju.xyz/dk/blog

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Franklin Yu on Sun Jun 4 09:30:01 2023
    On 2023-06-03 22:07, Franklin Yu wrote:
    Has anyone considered switching to any alternative? The Debian Wiki UI does not
    attract users to contribute (no Wiki syntax highlight in the editor, for example).

    To me, the most desperately missing feature is having wiki content in a
    VCS, such as git. I like to work on documentation like on code.

    That would also solve the problem of syntax highlighting, because
    editing is just done in ones favourite text editor.

    I'm not sure, which wiki software does work that way. I assume gitit,
    gollum, and ikiwiki do.

    Cheers

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  • From Paul Wise@21:1/5 to Martin on Mon Jun 5 05:00:01 2023
    On Sun, 2023-06-04 at 05:45 +0000, Martin wrote:

    To me, the most desperately missing feature is having wiki content in a
    VCS, such as git. I like to work on documentation like on code.

    This is a different kind of wiki to what Franklin and Kamaraju are used
    to; MediaWiki is backed by a database instead of a VCS and has solely
    web based editing with all the edit features provided by browsers and JavaScript instead of local software.

    I'm not sure, which wiki software does work that way.

    IIRC MoinMoin 2.x has an option for this. Steve McIntyre planned on
    working on packaging it for Debian so that we can switch to it later.

    --
    bye,
    pabs

    https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Paul Wise on Wed Jun 7 01:10:01 2023
    On 2023-06-05 10:53, Paul Wise wrote:
    On Sun, 2023-06-04 at 05:45 +0000, Martin wrote:
    To me, the most desperately missing feature is having wiki content in a
    VCS, such as git. I like to work on documentation like on code.

    This is a different kind of wiki to what Franklin and Kamaraju are used
    to; MediaWiki is backed by a database instead of a VCS and has solely
    web based editing with all the edit features provided by browsers and JavaScript instead of local software.

    To the best of my knowledge (almost nothing, TBH) at least one of the
    three, gollum, has an in-browser editor, too. Probably a good thing to
    have, e.g. for smaller edits, corrections, etc.

    For larger edits, I very much prefer using well-known tools such as
    (ma)git, (e)diff. Esp. if multiple pages are involved and should be in
    one commit.

    I'm not sure, which wiki software does work that way.
    IIRC MoinMoin 2.x has an option for this. Steve McIntyre planned on
    working on packaging it for Debian so that we can switch to it later.

    Nice!

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