• Re: Bullseye security.debian.org codename misconfigured?

    From Gian Piero Carrubba@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 12:00:03 2022
    * [Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 11:09:20AM +0100] Stefan Fritsch:
    I think the bullseye-security codename should be "bullseye" instead.
    Or am I missing something

    The repo naming scheme has changed with bullseye. I do not have the announcement at hands, however the old '<codename>/updates' is now '<codename>-security', see https://www.debian.org/security/.

    Hth,
    Gian Piero.

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  • From Stefan Fritsch@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 11:30:02 2022
    Hi,

    I have noticed that the latest linux security update is not installed on
    my box. The package is available in

    # apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64
    linux-image-amd64:
    Installed: 5.10.84-1
    Candidate: 5.10.84-1
    Version table:
    5.15.15-1 500
    500 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages unstable/main
    amd64 Packages
    5.10.92-1 500
    500 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security/main amd64
    Packages
    *** 5.10.84-1 990
    990 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages bullseye/main
    amd64 Packages
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


    But apt-get dist-upgrade does not install it. I have

    # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/11-default-release
    APT::Default-Release "bullseye";

    and bullseye-security has

    # grep -i code /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_bullseye-security_InRelease Codename: bullseye-security

    while on buster, it's:

    $ grep -i code /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_buster_updates_InRelease
    Codename: buster

    No -security there.

    I have no apt pinning configured on my box.

    I think the bullseye-security codename should be "bullseye" instead. Or
    am I missing something

    Cheers,
    Stefan

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  • From Stefan Fritsch@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 12:00:01 2022
    Hi Viktor,

    Am 22.01.22 um 11:34 schrieb SZÉPE Viktor:
    Idézem/Quoting Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de>:

    I have noticed that the latest linux security update is not installed
    on my box. The package is available in

    # apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64
    linux-image-amd64:
      Installed: 5.10.84-1
      Candidate: 5.10.84-1
      Version table:
         5.15.15-1 500
            500 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages unstable/main
    amd64 Packages
         5.10.92-1 500
            500 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security/main amd64 >> Packages
     *** 5.10.84-1 990
            990 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages bullseye/main
    amd64 Packages
            100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

    Hello Stefan!

    Try adding

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free

    Please see https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBullseye#Changes

    This does not change anything and I did not expect it to. It would be
    rather strange if different URLs had different code-name settings. It is
    not that apt cannot load the lists, it just does not recognize that bullseye-security is the same as bullseye.

    Cheers,
    Stefan

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  • From =?utf-8?b?U1rDiVBF?= Viktor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 22 11:40:02 2022
    This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format.

    Idézem/Quoting Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de>:

    Hi,

    I have noticed that the latest linux security update is not
    installed on my box. The package is available in

    # apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64
    linux-image-amd64:
    Installed: 5.10.84-1
    Candidate: 5.10.84-1
    Version table:
    5.15.15-1 500
    500 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages unstable/main
    amd64 Packages
    5.10.92-1 500
    500 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security/main amd64 Packages
    *** 5.10.84-1 990
    990 http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages bullseye/main
    amd64 Packages
    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

    Hello Stefan!

    Try adding

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main
    contrib non-free

    Please see https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBullseye#Changes


    SZÉPE Viktor, webes alkalmazás üzemeltetés / Running your application https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/CV.md
    ~~~
    ügyelet 🌶️ hotline: +36-20-4242498 sms@szepe.net skype: szepe.viktor Budapest, III. kerület





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  • From Ulf Volmer@21:1/5 to Stefan Fritsch on Sat Jan 22 12:40:02 2022
    On 22.01.22 11:09, Stefan Fritsch wrote:

     *** 5.10.84-1 990

    The 990 looks like pinning for me.

    Best regards
    Ulf

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  • From =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Mork?=@21:1/5 to Stefan Fritsch on Sat Jan 22 21:10:02 2022
    Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de> writes:

    # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/11-default-release
    APT::Default-Release "bullseye";

    Just don't do that. It breaks all normal preferences and will end up preferring "bullseye" over anything else. Including
    "bullseye-security".

    Use preferences instead if you need to tweak anything. See
    apt_preferences(5)


    Bjørn

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  • From Stefan Fritsch@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 23 17:00:01 2022
    Am 22.01.22 um 21:07 schrieb Bjørn Mork:
    Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de> writes:

    # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/11-default-release
    APT::Default-Release "bullseye";

    Just don't do that. It breaks all normal preferences and will end up preferring "bullseye" over anything else. Including
    "bullseye-security".

    This used to work until buster. But it turns out the release-notes
    mention this problem and the correct syntax is now:

    APT::Default-Release "/^bullseye(|-security|-updates)$/";


    The failure mode of silently not installing security updates is bad,
    though. But I don't see an easy way to fix that. Maybe apt should print
    a warning if one uses a simple codename as Default-Release?

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  • From Cindy Sue Causey@21:1/5 to Stefan Fritsch on Sun Jan 23 18:10:02 2022
    On 1/23/22, Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de> wrote:
    Am 22.01.22 um 21:07 schrieb Bjørn Mork:
    Stefan Fritsch <sf@sfritsch.de> writes:

    # cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/11-default-release
    APT::Default-Release "bullseye";

    Just don't do that. It breaks all normal preferences and will end up
    preferring "bullseye" over anything else. Including
    "bullseye-security".

    This used to work until buster. But it turns out the release-notes
    mention this problem and the correct syntax is now:

    APT::Default-Release "/^bullseye(|-security|-updates)$/";


    The failure mode of silently not installing security updates is bad,
    though. But I don't see an easy way to fix that. Maybe apt should print
    a warning if one uses a simple codename as Default-Release?


    Congratulations on finding the fix. That's cool. It falls in line with
    how the repositories are declared.

    With respect to a proposed warning, I spent years naively a-suming
    that security updates were part of the primary, single line repository declaration. A little 4-watt light bulb went off overhead during a
    Debian-User exchange a couple years ago. Prior to that thread, I'd
    been on outside security tech lists and had seen major update
    advisories but could never figure out why I was not seeing those same
    packages update on my Debian.

    This type of ongoing warning might upset some longstanding Users...
    unless there was a way to have it only be once a month.. or.. maybe
    have a way to trigger it off permanently via the command line
    interface for e.g. apt and apt-get.

    Another alternative could evolve into a teaching moment by having a
    warning state where to turn the warning OFF in e.g. an apt or apt-get
    config file. It could be something like the very fix found for this
    current thread.

    That might lead newer users to explore those types of files more and
    thus learn more about the inner workings of Debian. It was something
    along those lines that triggered my interest in regularly tearing into
    my own install's files a number of years ago now. :)

    Cindy :)
    --
    Cindy-Sue Causey
    Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
    * runs with birdseed *

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