You might have heard about this effort already, as it's been in
discussions for a while.

At the end of DebConf16, I was approached by some people asking whether
I would like to start a team for LGBTIQA+ people within Debian, along
similar lines and with similar goals as the Debian Women project. The
idea was to create a welcoming space for, and increase visibility of, underrepresented gender and sexual minorities within the Debian project.
It was also to make it clear that the Diversity Statement[1] isn't just
words, and that the Code of Conduct[2] is a genuinely important part of
our community.

[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity
[2] https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

Since then, the IRC channel #debian-diversity has been formed and we
have had a discussion session there. We have also had productive
sessions at both DebConf17 and DebConf18, where we tried to find out
what people expect from this group, and how to move forward. The Debian project always has and always will welcome contributions from people who
are willing to work on a constructive level with each other, without discrimination.

Through discussions with different people it became clear that calling
it the Diversity Team, or rather, Diversity Effort, would be the best
fitting name. Our aims aren't limited to specific gender or sexual
minority groups and our efforts are specifically meant to be
intersectional, and meant to be a combined force, regardless of one's
social status, racial background, sexual orientation, gender identity or adherence to body or mental state or norms.

We stand for a respectful and welcoming environment.

We can be proud of what we managed to produce over the last 25 years.
Let's continue to build on these foundations, and make it clear that the
Debian community is open and welcoming.

An email address has been created to be able to reach the Diversity team
in private. If you seek support, feel free to reach out to us at <diversity@debian.org>. We have also started to draft a Team page[3] on
the wiki.

Currently, we are in close contact with the DebConf19 Local Team from
Curitiba, so that we can try to ensure that those who would like to
attend the next DebConf can feel as safe as possible. We see you, we
are worried too, but we think that hiding is not the right reaction to
what's going on right now.

[3] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Diversity

For the team, offering hugs,
Rhonda
--
Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los |
Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden
Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los |

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Vosotros también con esa moda? Es totalmente innecesario en un SO.
En fin ... Lo que nos queda por ver.

El mié., 17 abr. 2019 14:39, Rhonda D'Vine <rhonda@debian.org> escribió:

You might have heard about this effort already, as it's been in
discussions for a while.

At the end of DebConf16, I was approached by some people asking whether
I would like to start a team for LGBTIQA+ people within Debian, along
similar lines and with similar goals as the Debian Women project. The
idea was to create a welcoming space for, and increase visibility of, underrepresented gender and sexual minorities within the Debian project.
It was also to make it clear that the Diversity Statement[1] isn't just words, and that the Code of Conduct[2] is a genuinely important part of
our community.

[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity
[2] https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

Since then, the IRC channel #debian-diversity has been formed and we
have had a discussion session there. We have also had productive
sessions at both DebConf17 and DebConf18, where we tried to find out
what people expect from this group, and how to move forward. The Debian project always has and always will welcome contributions from people who
are willing to work on a constructive level with each other, without discrimination.

Through discussions with different people it became clear that calling
it the Diversity Team, or rather, Diversity Effort, would be the best
fitting name. Our aims aren't limited to specific gender or sexual
minority groups and our efforts are specifically meant to be
intersectional, and meant to be a combined force, regardless of one's
social status, racial background, sexual orientation, gender identity or adherence to body or mental state or norms.

We stand for a respectful and welcoming environment.

We can be proud of what we managed to produce over the last 25 years.
Let's continue to build on these foundations, and make it clear that the Debian community is open and welcoming.

An email address has been created to be able to reach the Diversity team
in private. If you seek support, feel free to reach out to us at <diversity@debian.org>. We have also started to draft a Team page[3] on
the wiki.

Currently, we are in close contact with the DebConf19 Local Team from Curitiba, so that we can try to ensure that those who would like to
attend the next DebConf can feel as safe as possible. We see you, we
are worried too, but we think that hiding is not the right reaction to
what's going on right now.

[3] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Diversity

For the team, offering hugs,
Rhonda
--
Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los |
Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden
Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los |

<div dir="auto">Vosotros también con esa moda? Es totalmente innecesario en un SO. <div dir="auto">En fin ... Lo que nos queda por ver. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié., 17 abr. 2019 14:39, Rhonda D&#
39;Vine &lt;<a href="mailto:rhonda@debian.org">rhonda@debian.org</a>&gt; escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You might have heard about this effort already, as it&#39;s
been in<br>
discussions for a while.<br>

At the end of DebConf16, I was approached by some people asking whether<br>
I would like to start a team for LGBTIQA+ people within Debian, along<br> similar lines and with similar goals as the Debian Women project.  The<br> idea was to create a welcoming space for, and increase visibility of,<br> underrepresented gender and sexual minorities within the Debian project.<br>
It was also to make it clear that the Diversity Statement[1] isn&#39;t just<br> words, and that the Code of Conduct[2] is a genuinely important part of<br>
our community.<br>

[1] <a href="https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct</a><br>

Since then, the IRC channel #debian-diversity has been formed and we<br>
have had a discussion session there.  We have also had productive<br>
sessions at both DebConf17 and DebConf18, where we tried to find out<br>
what people expect from this group, and how to move forward.  The Debian<br> project always has and always will welcome contributions from people who<br> are willing to work on a constructive level with each other, without<br> discrimination.<br>

Through discussions with different people it became clear that calling<br>
it the Diversity Team, or rather, Diversity Effort, would be the best<br> fitting name.  Our aims aren&#39;t limited to specific gender or sexual<br> minority groups and our efforts are specifically meant to be<br> intersectional, and meant to be a combined force, regardless of one&#39;s<br> social status, racial background, sexual orientation, gender identity or<br> adherence to body or mental state or norms.<br>

We stand for a respectful and welcoming environment.<br>

We can be proud of what we managed to produce over the last 25 years.<br> Let&#39;s continue to build on these foundations, and make it clear that the<br>
Debian community is open and welcoming.<br>

An email address has been created to be able to reach the Diversity team<br>
in private.  If you seek support, feel free to reach out to us at<br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:diversity@debian.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">diversity@debian.org</a>&gt;.  We have also started to draft a Team page[3] on<br>
the wiki.<br>

Currently, we are in close contact with the DebConf19 Local Team from<br> Curitiba, so that we can try to ensure that those who would like to<br>
attend the next DebConf can feel as safe as possible.  We see you, we<br>
are worried too, but we think that hiding is not the right reaction to<br> what&#39;s going on right now.<br>

[3] <a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Diversity" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Diversity</a><br>

For the team, offering hugs,<br>
Rhonda<br>
-- <br>
Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los      |<br>
Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los    | Wir sind Helden<br> Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los   | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang<br>
Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los    |<br>
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Hi.

The seperating is happening in you. If you write "normal coders +
women coders" you already state that you don't consider women be normal,
too. Thanks for proving the point that visibility in fact _is_ needed here.

It's only derailing if you make it derailing, btw. This effort is not
there to separate. It's meant to make it clear that the Debian project
is a welcoming environment. Always has been - and will stay one.

Yes, I agree with you that it _should_ be completely irrelevant. The
fact though is that there are people who disagree with you. Who are
very vocal about it. Linus is a good example here: He only recently
started to understood that his very rude and offensive way of addressing
people actually *does* drive people away. And those are usually
marginalized people.

We can't afford to say we are fine with a white boy's club and continue
as if that's not an issue to not invite underrepresented people to join
our effort. We need the help of everyone willing in the Free Software
movement to continue with bringing Free Software to the world.

And yes again, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that it should be
completely irrelevant.

So, thanks a lot for your feedback. Let's work together to make this a
great place for everyone to work together. :)

Enjoy,
Rhonda

On 4/19/19 10:48 AM, Ivan Ivanov wrote:

Translation of message from eperezsantos :

"Are we also following this trend? It is totally unnecessary in an OS.
Anyway ... What remains for us to see."

Personally I agree with him. It should be completely irrelevant in the
coding community
what is your gender, and Linus Torvalds once said: "Talk is cheap,
show me the code."
Please focus on coding instead of this "muh diversity" stuff, because
it is dividing the community
(e.g. to one more separate channel that you're promoting now) and
reducing the productivity.
Because, instead of "normal coders + women coders" there's going to be
one more subgroup
"LGBTIQA coders" and such splitting is at least reducing the
efficiency of communication.

I strongly believe that this "diversity stuff" is radically off-topic
and could be derailing our course.
There are already a lot of dedicated ontopic forums for this stuff,
why should we bring it to Debian...

Best regards,
Ivan Ivanov

пт, 19 апр. 2019 г. в 11:36, eperezsantos <eperezsantos@gmail.com>:

Vosotros también con esa moda? Es totalmente innecesario en un SO.
En fin ... Lo que nos queda por ver.

El mié., 17 abr. 2019 14:39, Rhonda D'Vine <rhonda@debian.org> escribió: >>>

You might have heard about this effort already, as it's been in
discussions for a while.

At the end of DebConf16, I was approached by some people asking whether
I would like to start a team for LGBTIQA+ people within Debian, along
similar lines and with similar goals as the Debian Women project. The
idea was to create a welcoming space for, and increase visibility of,
underrepresented gender and sexual minorities within the Debian project. >>> It was also to make it clear that the Diversity Statement[1] isn't just
words, and that the Code of Conduct[2] is a genuinely important part of
our community.

[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity
[2] https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct

Since then, the IRC channel #debian-diversity has been formed and we
have had a discussion session there. We have also had productive
sessions at both DebConf17 and DebConf18, where we tried to find out
what people expect from this group, and how to move forward. The Debian >>> project always has and always will welcome contributions from people who >>> are willing to work on a constructive level with each other, without
discrimination.

Through discussions with different people it became clear that calling
it the Diversity Team, or rather, Diversity Effort, would be the best
fitting name. Our aims aren't limited to specific gender or sexual
minority groups and our efforts are specifically meant to be
intersectional, and meant to be a combined force, regardless of one's
social status, racial background, sexual orientation, gender identity or >>> adherence to body or mental state or norms.

We stand for a respectful and welcoming environment.

We can be proud of what we managed to produce over the last 25 years.
Let's continue to build on these foundations, and make it clear that the >>> Debian community is open and welcoming.

An email address has been created to be able to reach the Diversity team >>> in private. If you seek support, feel free to reach out to us at
<diversity@debian.org>. We have also started to draft a Team page[3] on >>> the wiki.

Currently, we are in close contact with the DebConf19 Local Team from
Curitiba, so that we can try to ensure that those who would like to
attend the next DebConf can feel as safe as possible. We see you, we
are worried too, but we think that hiding is not the right reaction to
what's going on right now.

[3] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Diversity

For the team, offering hugs,
Rhonda
--
Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los |
Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los | Wir sind Helden
Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang
Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los |

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