Hi,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from gnome
(think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone). I can
do that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but want to
provide an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk
interface of debconf and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu,
there is separate add language tool which can add new languages.

Thanks
Praveen

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On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 02:59:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from gnome (think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone). I can do that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but want to provide an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk interface of debconf and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu, there is separate add language tool which can add new languages.

The debconf(7) manual page suggests that setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome
after installing the libgtk3-perl package ought to work, and it seems to
work for me:

sudo env DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure locales

...brings up a GTK+ interface.

G'luck,
Peter

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On തി, ജനു 3 2022 at 12:09:10 രാവിലെ +0200 +0200,
Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 02:59:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from
gnome
(think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone). I
can do
that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but want
to provide
an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk interface of
debconf
and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu, there is
separate add
language tool which can add new languages.

The debconf(7) manual page suggests that setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome
after installing the libgtk3-perl package ought to work, and it seems
to
work for me:

sudo env DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure locales

...brings up a GTK+ interface.

Thanks! I need to run xhost + to be able to launch this. Is there
another way to lauch this graphically without having to run xhost +.
May be something using policykit?

I remember there used to be a gksu or gksudo but can't find this now

apt-file find bin/gksu
apt-file find bin/gksudo

pkexec env DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure locales
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused

(dpkg-reconfigure:159177): Gtk-WARNING **: 15:28:06.343: cannot open
display:
debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog

G'luck,
Peter

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Hi,

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 03:29:06PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

On തി, ജനു 3 2022 at 12:09:10 രാവിലെ +0200 +0200, Peter Pentchev
<roam@ringlet.net> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 02:59:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from
gnome
(think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone). I
can do
that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but want
to provide
an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk interface of debconf
and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu, there is
separate add
language tool which can add new languages.

The debconf(7) manual page suggests that setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome after installing the libgtk3-perl package ought to work, and it seems to work for me:

sudo env DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure locales

...brings up a GTK+ interface.

Thanks! I need to run xhost + to be able to launch this. Is there another
way to lauch this graphically without having to run xhost +. May be
something using policykit?

If you drop the "env" in that command, then the XAUTHORITY environment
variable will be retained and you shouldn't need to muck about with X authorization.

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2022, ജനുവരി 6 2:26:33 PM IST, Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>ൽ എഴുതി

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 03:29:06PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

On തി, ജനു 3 2022 at 12:09:10 രാവിലെ +0200 +0200, Peter Pentchev
<roam@ringlet.net> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 02:59:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from
gnome
(think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone). I
can do
that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but want
to provide
an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk interface of
debconf
and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu, there is
separate add
language tool which can add new languages.

The debconf(7) manual page suggests that setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome
after installing the libgtk3-perl package ought to work, and it seems to >> > work for me:

sudo env DEBIAN_FRONTEND=gnome dpkg-reconfigure locales

...brings up a GTK+ interface.

Thanks! I need to run xhost + to be able to launch this. Is there another
way to lauch this graphically without having to run xhost +. May be
something using policykit?

If you drop the "env" in that command, then the XAUTHORITY environment >variable will be retained and you shouldn't need to muck about with X >authorization.

In Pure OS, the plan is to use systemd-localed and it was just a regression https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/gnome-control-center/-/issues/124#note_183751 so we don't need to reconfigure locales for adding locale.
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 at 15:29:06 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:

I need to run xhost + to be able to launch this

`xhost +` is rarely (never?) the right answer. If you want GUIs running
as root to be able to connect to your X11 display, instead use:

xhost +si:localuser:root

Of course, running GUIs as root is all sorts of dangerous anyway,
because X11 is a complicated protocol and X11 clients implicitly trust
your X11 server... but at least please don't let unprivileged users like www-data@localhost access your X11 display.

The more modern way to do this would be to have an unprivileged UI that
submits requests to a privileged service via some sort of IPC protocol
(like the way e.g. GNOME components configure networking by talking to NetworkManager), which doesn't require the GUI to have special privileges.

localectl(1) has this design, with localectl talking to the
systemd-localed service, and GNOME Settings (gnome-control-center) can
also set the system locale in the same way localectl does. I'm sure other desktop environments' equivalents are similar.

Enabling new locales is not currently included in systemd-localed's functionality, presumably because it's distro-specific how you do this
most correctly: on Ubuntu (and I think also Fedora) you'd install a pre-generated "language pack" package, but on Debian or Arch you'd edit /etc/locale.gen and run localegen.

Installing locales-all is also an option, although unfortunately it's
more than 200M (most of which seems to be LC_COLLATE rules, which are presumably stored in a time-efficient but space-inefficient format).

If we had a locales-utf8 package that was a subset of locales-all
with only the (recommended) UTF-8 locales, it would be half the size -
perhaps that would be a better default for desktop systems?

See also <https://bugs.debian.org/701585>.

smcv

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2022 at 11:09:30 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:

If we had a locales-utf8 package that was a subset of locales-all
with only the (recommended) UTF-8 locales, it would be half the size - perhaps that would be a better default for desktop systems?

→ https://bugs.debian.org/1003213

smcv

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Praveen wrote:

Hi,

Hello,

I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to system from

gnome (think about gnome on mobile like Purism Librem 5 or Pine Phone).
I can do that from a terminal by running dpkg-reconfigure locales but
want to provide an easier option to users. Is there a way to force gtk interface of debconf and launch it from graphical interface? In Ubuntu,
there is separate add language tool which can add new languages.

You could also try to install the locales-all package (that would pull
232MB extra) and the you could use gnome-control-center to configure the locales per user?

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